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Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:11:00 -
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A:Yes B:No ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png)
I'll count up votes after 5 pages. Maybe less.
Please do not post opinions. Just Letters.![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) |
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Garl Dravon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:12:00 -
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[*] B |
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Obama DAT
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:14:00 -
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Tough to answer the question at this point ( not seen a ton on the battlefield) but i'm leaning towards no at the moment. |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:15:00 -
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B...
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Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:15:00 -
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A |
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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:20:00 -
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B |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:20:00 -
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B I'll break the rules and say marauders will need CPU/PG base upgrades or be totally unsupportable. |
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Varys Targaryen
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:21:00 -
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BBBBBBBBBB |
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Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
115
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:22:00 -
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Bee. |
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Carilito
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:24:00 -
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I will take the ring to Mordor!... wait what am I doing.
B |
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
256
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:31:00 -
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Ask this question in 2-4 weeks when people are actually skilled to use and destroy them. It's way too early now.
But B...for science. |
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Andius Fidelitas
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:33:00 -
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B |
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Needless Sacermendor
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:35:00 -
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Militia vs militia they've been going down quick, now people have some skills invested but very few AV skills invested yet, it will come ...
Big fat B
Edited : also very few skilled HAVs at this point. |
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ThreeXB
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:36:00 -
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"B" |
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:39:00 -
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B |
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Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:53:00 -
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B |
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:58:00 -
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A |
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Young Gun Qc
Rebelles A Quebec
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:02:00 -
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A
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:03:00 -
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forge gun is now underpowered |
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:05:00 -
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A |
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Samuel Haines
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:05:00 -
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B |
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ELDER7
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:08:00 -
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A |
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TheWanderer17
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:12:00 -
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B
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Rohnan Senkusha
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:14:00 -
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B |
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:19:00 -
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They're expensive. |
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Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:23:00 -
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AB |
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Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:30:00 -
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B |
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.23 00:07:00 -
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C |
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Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.23 01:27:00 -
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A, i just spent an entire match chasing one down laying swarm after swarm on it and it would not go down. This was included with teammates throwing AV grenades on it. |
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Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2012.08.23 01:31:00 -
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I donno too damn expensive to get in to test but even last build it was B |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.23 01:58:00 -
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B
The argument can't even be made for A. |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.23 05:53:00 -
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Forge gun nerf. AAAAAAAAA...............****! Marauders!! |
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Smokey Killer51
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.08.23 05:56:00 -
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a |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.23 06:07:00 -
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B |
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Constable Jones
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.23 06:42:00 -
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B: Milita tanks are squishy, gunloggi/surya can be taken down reliably by three guys with AV grenades at something like 10% of their cost.
Marauders are much tougher, and black ops will be tougher still if I ever see one being used, but I'm not gonna begrudge someone having alot of power on a fit that costs them millions every time it dies.
I'm just gonna do my best to blow it up so's I can laugh ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) |
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Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:09:00 -
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Oh I remeber you Dante Dedrik, thats because your squad was stupid and trying to kill a tank worth 350,000isk designed to survive heavy AV weapons. I just drove away and found a good place to hide.
Otherwise as for Black ops, they have one less medium/low slow so actually may infact be slightly squishier. |
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Jack McReady
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:23:00 -
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if driven properly (aka never stand still) and are properly fit (aka 15k-20k ehp) you can: 1. evade most AV weapon hits cause of the speed, remember that sharp turns makes swarms hit the ground often, or hit obstacles 2. survive alot of punishment in the case you get hit.
they indeed are overpowered when someone that knows how to use the tank properly sits in it but the usual noob that camps a spot gets blown up pretty fast. |
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Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:28:00 -
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Counter to all of above : Someone with a forge gun, and heavy damage boosters. |
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Flux Raeder
WarRavens
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:33:00 -
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B |
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Guydon Antllies
HoloSec Armaments and Security
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:37:00 -
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A |
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dust badger
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:40:00 -
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B |
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CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:41:00 -
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B If anything there Underpowered |
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Domingo Cervezas
Cult of the Warrior
15
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:46:00 -
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B
I take them out with basic AV Grenades all by myself. |
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Jack McReady
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Posted - 2012.08.23 07:48:00 -
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Domingo Cervezas wrote:B
I take them out with basic AV Grenades all by myself. cool story bro, 10-20k ehp, and yo think those 1k damage grenades bothers a properly fit tank? noobs in a tank with random milita mods dont count as argument. |
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Antonius Dacinci
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.23 08:29:00 -
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stop quoteing 10-20k EHP your math is wrong. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.23 08:57:00 -
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B
I run AV most of the time. |
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Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:54:00 -
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B! |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.23 11:19:00 -
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A |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.23 11:20:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:B
The argument can't even be made for A.
Er yes it can.
Tanks are still going 40-0 all the time. Well not my tank cos I suck. |
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Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.08.23 11:35:00 -
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C!
I honestly don't think tanks belong in the game(at least at this stage). People complain that they're overpowered, which is legit, but people also complain they're too expensive to get destroyed, which is also legit. DUST needs to up the scale and complexity of battlefields for tanks(and even dropships, really) to make sense.
But I'll play along. Count my vote as
A
for the purposes of this poll. |
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V Shadow
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.08.23 11:41:00 -
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B |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.23 12:08:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:B
The argument can't even be made for A. Er yes it can. Tanks are still going 40-0 all the time. Well not my tank cos I suck. With a good driver, and good gunners, you'll see 40 - 60 kills by a single tank. Look at the upper limit of that, and you're seeing an average of 20 kills per person in the tank.
With any more than 2 good AV players on the other team, you WILL be struggling to keep a tank alive, so it's logical to assume, on average, 1 death per match even for a good tank. Sometimes you'll see someone lose several tanks, and often you'll see no deaths, but it generally balances out.
Good infantry players can run 20-1 pretty consistently too. |
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