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Krimson Guard
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:01:00 -
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Any tips on reliably landing sniper shots?
For some reason if i'm crouching the hits never seem to register, even if my opponent is standing still with my scope square on their back from 20 feet away
Other times their face will be peaking over a box, or their body over a mountain. my cursor will turn red, i'll fire, and nothing will register.
Unlike battlefield i can't see the trajectory of the bullet easily, but i don't believe it is a form of bullet drop since it also fails from close range.
Perhaps I am doing something wrong? because to me, red cursor + pulled trigger on a static target should be a hit |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:13:00 -
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Lag? How's your connection? |
Brandon Madullier2
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
2
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:19:00 -
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i would advise you to raise your distance skills for light weapons that helps
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Drake Gro'Dar
19
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:24:00 -
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My only tip is don't shoot me, I'm a heavy with a HMG so I don't have the range to shoot you and your shots will just make me laugh or want to hunt you lol. |
Mystkyller Beltbender
Universal Allies Inc.
10
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:27:00 -
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Could be lag or items, shields land in the way. On the really long shots you may get a red dot but be shooting and hitting the ground right in front of them. I've had that happen numerous times, the really long shots into cover on other snipers is even harder then shooting/sniping the runners cause one missed shot gives away your position. |
Mortiusse McFringe
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:31:00 -
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I too seem to be having the same problem. Curser goes red but nothing seems to register. My son sais that I got the ennemi for sure but I am always at zero (0) kills.
But could be that I'm just no good at this type of game but I sure as ....am trying and my son sees the same things as me. that is a few kills.
Sure would like to be able to practice somewhere without dying every 10 seconds. |
Carilito
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:32:00 -
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Sniping isnt reliable; you just have to have a good connection, a decent ability to lead a target and the most important factor is luck.
On a side note, I have been able to reliably hit all other suits but heavy's today for some reason. |
Krimson Guard
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:40:00 -
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Hard to believe it's lag when they aren't moving. but for the bullet drop it makes sense, guess ill just have to get used to it.
Hopefully the latency issues are fixed so i can start shooting moving targets as well soon.
I havent purchased anything yet so ill try a distance skill and see how it goes |
Carilito
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.22 21:55:00 -
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Light weapon sharpshooter at lvl 5 makes a big difference |
ThreeXB
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
7
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:44:00 -
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Had no issues myself |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.08.23 02:39:00 -
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Brandon Madullier2 wrote:i would advise you to raise your distance skills for light weapons that helps
This might be the cause. You're on target but out of range. This skill makes a surprisingly big difference with AR and smg, I'm thinking it prolly makes a bigger difference with a sniping weapon.
Have you had the same problem at short ranges, Krimson? |
Krimson Guard
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:35:00 -
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yeah, even at close range, but mostly when im near cover or crouched.
i have less trouble hitting when standing, but it takes forever for the scope to steady.
I bought a suit for more cpu capacity so i could use these skills, but i cant equip it yet :(
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carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:45:00 -
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I noticed I have good days and bad days when nothing seems to work, no one running in the open giving me easy kills and even my hits fail to register and I just can't get the dot where I want it.
Today was one of those days i put an entire clip on other snipers chest and nothing happened he didn't even flinch so obviously my shots just vanished other sniper next to me got him though.
Also I emptied a clip on some heavy who died right after and no assist points at all which was like   . |
Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.08.23 17:57:00 -
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You need to compensate for hit registration, for example if your target is running 100meters in front of you to the right.. you'll need to figure out what the distance is for leading your target until your receiving consistant hit indicators, and from there you can begin to determine the compensation needed for long distance engagements. Currently you need to be predicting where someone is going to be a second from where their current possition is.
A lot of the time you'll see shield flashes on your targets but they wont take damage, this goes back to propperly predicting possition.
Take it or leave it |
Carilito
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:00:00 -
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Garma Denja -0VA wrote:You need to compensate for hit registration, for example if your target is running 100meters in front of you to the right.. you'll need to figure out what the distance is for leading your target until your receiving consistant hit ondicators.indicators, and from there you can begin to determine the compensation needed for long distance engagements. Currently you need to be predicting where someone is going to be a second from where their current possition is. Take it or leave it
This is Accurate
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:01:00 -
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Hit detection can be incredibly spotty. I've put rounds into people just sitting on a hill sniping or firing their assault rifle, or heavies shooting their swarm launcher, and no damage is done. Their shield flashes to indicate a hit, but their health is unchanged. It's frustrating. I suggest you ignore targets immune to your hits for a few moments and then return to kill them later. Whatever causes their immunity doesn't last forever, and there are other targets eager to be shot. |
Gunsite Scout
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:08:00 -
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I've noticed the same thing. The worst case is when I was standing 50 yards (just a guess) below and behind a guy who was just crouching and sniping other people. I shot him 10 times and he never even knew I was there. First in the head, then in the body over and over again. Nothing ever happend until someone else across the way sniped me. But the guy I was shooting never moved. Bit I could see he was taking shots at other people. It had nothing to do with compensation as you would not need to compensate a mid body shot standing still at 50 yards. Its a bug, plain and simple. It does seem that most of the times I have had this happen is when the other player is above me. I'm sure it will be fixed. |
Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:12:00 -
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Gunsite Scout wrote:I've noticed the same thing. The worst case is when I was standing 50 yards (just a guess) below and behind a guy who was just crouching and sniping other people. I shot him 10 times and he never even knew I was there. First in the head, then in the body over and over again. Nothing ever happend until someone else across the way sniped me. But the guy I was shooting never moved. Bit I could see he was taking shots at other people. It had nothing to do with compensation as you would not need to compensate a mid body shot standing still at 50 yards. Its a bug, plain and simple. It does seem that most of the times I have had this happen is when the other player is above me. I'm sure it will be fixed.
Yea I'll agree to that it can be an issue sometimes, but have you tried changing possition then re-engaging? |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:20:00 -
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I made shoot at 375m with lv1 sharpshooter. Different match, fired whole ammo supply with no damage at 225m or so. I even had shield impact animation, the bar on shields just wouldn't go down. Had 3 hits, shield impact showed, with charge rifle on same stationary militia scout and bar didn't move. Next match on same map and range one hit kill.
Similar issue few times with shotgun, me and another scout emptied our shotguns into each other (first few shots we were strafing, by last we were just standing about 2m apart holding still and still nothing)and were both at full health, then we went to zero at same time like the game realized we had both been hit repeatedly.
Every once and while the sniper just stops causing damage it seems. I haven't noticed any bullet drop with sniper rifle, that 375m shoot I had to lead the target, but didn't aim above any. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:26:00 -
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Brandon Madullier2 wrote:i would advise you to raise your distance skills for light weapons that helps
While aiming.in the bottom left it tells you if you were in range. You need to keep an eye on this. |
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Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:36:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:
Every once and while the sniper just stops causing damage it seems. I haven't noticed any bullet drop with sniper rifle, that 375m shoot I had to lead the target, but didn't aim above any.
Thats correct. It's a railgun, but you still need to lead more or less about the same with every gun. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:38:00 -
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I would suggest not sniping. Anything else is more useful. |
Gunsite Scout
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:31:00 -
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Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Gunsite Scout wrote:I've noticed the same thing. The worst case is when I was standing 50 yards (just a guess) below and behind a guy who was just crouching and sniping other people. I shot him 10 times and he never even knew I was there. First in the head, then in the body over and over again. Nothing ever happend until someone else across the way sniped me. But the guy I was shooting never moved. Bit I could see he was taking shots at other people. It had nothing to do with compensation as you would not need to compensate a mid body shot standing still at 50 yards. Its a bug, plain and simple. It does seem that most of the times I have had this happen is when the other player is above me. I'm sure it will be fixed. Yea I'll agree to that it can be an issue sometimes, but have you tried changing possition then re-engaging?
Yes, I have. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. In the scenario above it didn't, however, since I was so close my position changes were not very far. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:36:00 -
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There are occasional hit detection issues.
Everyone has to deal with it, but they hit snipers harder than most because sniper rifles are slow-firing weapons with no splash damage so unlike rapid-rife weapons, you're losing a full second's worth of firepower every time the game fails to register a shot, and unlike explosive weapons and Forge Guns, you don't get to pick up splash damage if your shot's hitting terrain behind the target you were meant to hit.
It's also possible that the shot scattered a small amount due to scope sway or some other factor if you hadn't been patient or if your sniper skills aren't high enough. |
Celix Kitannen
Covenant Security Solutions
12
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Posted - 2012.08.23 21:51:00 -
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Before the most recent wipe I was lvl 5 on just about every skill needed to be a sniper- with the exception of lvl 4 sniper rifle proficiency.
I was also running top tier equipment and suits (prototype everything) and this exact problem still arose. It's not entirely user error.
There are hit detection problems, severe ones for snipers, and latency issues with the servers. Some times I couldn't make a 50m shot, but could peel off skull caps at 300+m the very next shot. My dope was dead on, I have the lead times down to reflex, and there's almost no scope sway. There are problems other than "learn to shoot better".
When one fitting is ranging in the upper hundreds of thousands of ISK, per use, I need to know that when I pull the trigger my round will impact the target with good effect. Otherwise there is no point in a sniper rifle. Take it out and put binoculars in the game and restrict them to the scout class. Actually, put a laser on them while you're at it- to link with swarm launchers and guide rockets in.
The only advice I can give you is (literally) spot enemy snipers first. It seemed if I scoped in on an enemy sniper first I had an 80/20 chance of no latency or hit detection issues.
Other than that you need to have a good SMG equipped at all times. Self explanatory. |
Dreylor Thunderfall
Conspiratus Immortalis
44
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:22:00 -
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It seems occasionally when I am sniping if I am crouched near ground cover I have more trouble with hit detection. Like the cover gets in the way |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.08.25 11:55:00 -
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Gunsite Scout wrote:I've noticed the same thing. The worst case is when I was standing 50 yards (just a guess) below and behind a guy who was just crouching and sniping other people. I shot him 10 times and he never even knew I was there. First in the head, then in the body over and over again. Nothing ever happend until someone else across the way sniped me. But the guy I was shooting never moved. Bit I could see he was taking shots at other people. It had nothing to do with compensation as you would not need to compensate a mid body shot standing still at 50 yards. Its a bug, plain and simple. It does seem that most of the times I have had this happen is when the other player is above me. I'm sure it will be fixed.
Now that you mention it Gunsite, it does seem like the cases where I'm shooting upward at a target are the most problematic for hit registration. I will definitely pay more attention to this in-game now.
On the other hand, I can think of other instances where everything worked fine - my personal favorite is when a scout decides to jump over me and I manage to kill him at the top of his arc =) |
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