DUST Search - Waiting till the game goes live

D Avenue wrote:

Nu11u5 wrote:

Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely...

/sarcasm

The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in.

Don't listen to this troll saying killing power from the switch on the back of the PS3 is not bad for it. There is a reason you shut off computers using a shut down effort instead of simply powering the box down immediately.

During a normal shutdown, (amongst doing many other things)
- OS closes any files it was reading or writing
- OS closes any access it has to the system registry
- the little hard disk arm is parked carefully at one side of the disk

Pressing the power switch cuts power immediately to the whole PS3

What effect does this have?
Any files that the OS was writing to may now have incomplete or corrupt data, because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing properly.
If the OS was writing to the registry, the system registry may now have incomplete or corrupt data because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing.
The hard disk arm, not being allowed to park by the side of the disk, may scratch or damage the spinning disk, causing data to become corrupt. (obviously not dust, but if you have another disc in the PS3)

Just some reasons, not saying it will happen to you, but your risking it every time you do it

Hard lock up sucks and i had 2 yesterday with the new build and even myself decided it may no longer be worth it till they fix the bugs

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Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.22 14:27:00 - [1] - Quote I dont want to risk ccp's beta client software breaking my ps3 hardware is why. I've been through numerous crashes n freezes on top of a dozen or so hard resets. ccp has had the entire summer damn near to work out the most crippling of issues, yet to no avail apparently. I feel bad for the ps + members just coming in to test. There's only so many times you can take these calamities with "a grain of salt" especially since your console is very well in jeopardy. Hopefully the finished product will work out nice n smooth
Nu11u5 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2012.08.22 14:37:00 - [2] - Quote Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely... /sarcasm The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.22 14:44:00 - [3] - Quote Nu11u5 wrote: Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely... /sarcasm The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in. Nice attempt at damage control. It still doesnt help the fact that the amount of abnormal freezes n crashes is a constant annoyance to say the least. Also, no matter how you spin it, all those involuntary reboots can't be good for the console
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.08.22 14:57:00 - [4] - Quote Turning my ps3 off at the socket sucks. Good thing I have surge/spike protection extension. These are the nasty crashes.
D Avenue KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2012.08.22 15:07:00 - [5] - Quote Nu11u5 wrote: Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely... /sarcasm The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in. Don't listen to this troll saying killing power from the switch on the back of the PS3 is not bad for it. There is a reason you shut off computers using a shut down effort instead of simply powering the box down immediately. During a normal shutdown, (amongst doing many other things) - OS closes any files it was reading or writing - OS closes any access it has to the system registry - the little hard disk arm is parked carefully at one side of the disk Pressing the power switch cuts power immediately to the whole PS3 What effect does this have? Any files that the OS was writing to may now have incomplete or corrupt data, because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing properly. If the OS was writing to the registry, the system registry may now have incomplete or corrupt data because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing. The hard disk arm, not being allowed to park by the side of the disk, may scratch or damage the spinning disk, causing data to become corrupt. (obviously not dust, but if you have another disc in the PS3) Just some reasons, not saying it will happen to you, but your risking it every time you do it Hard lock up sucks and i had 2 yesterday with the new build and even myself decided it may no longer be worth it till they fix the bugs
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.08.22 15:13:00 - [6] - Quote Nu11u5 wrote: Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely... /sarcasm The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in. Yeah, if you have an older model PS3 with original lead free solder and run it into the ground playing through crash after crash you can risk YLOD. I understand the OP's worries cause it sucks to get the YLOD, but basically, that will usually only happen if you are mean to your machine and do not let it rest. But wIth as many freezes as can happen with this build it might come down to just not playing it at all. And if anyone feels more comfortable waiting until the full release then that is ok.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.22 15:19:00 - [7] - Quote D Avenue wrote: Nu11u5 wrote: Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely... /sarcasm The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in. Don't listen to this troll saying killing power from the switch on the back of the PS3 is not bad for it. There is a reason you shut off computers using a shut down effort instead of simply powering the box down immediately. During a normal shutdown, (amongst doing many other things) - OS closes any files it was reading or writing - OS closes any access it has to the system registry - the little hard disk arm is parked carefully at one side of the disk Pressing the power switch cuts power immediately to the whole PS3 What effect does this have? Any files that the OS was writing to may now have incomplete or corrupt data, because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing properly. If the OS was writing to the registry, the system registry may now have incomplete or corrupt data because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing. The hard disk arm, not being allowed to park by the side of the disk, may scratch or damage the spinning disk, causing data to become corrupt. (obviously not dust, but if you have another disc in the PS3) Just some reasons, not saying it will happen to you, but your risking it every time you do it Hard lock up sucks and i had 2 yesterday with the new build and even myself decided it may no longer be worth it till they fix the bugs +1
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.22 15:24:00 - [8] - Quote Makes you wonder how inept the ps3 software QA staff really is
Cleetus Merovee Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2012.08.22 15:43:00 - [9] - Quote As things stand right now / this morning, this is rather tempting to do. It's ... unpleasant to play in the current state, putting it mildly.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.08.22 16:26:00 - [10] - Quote Sony is rushing them

Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.08.22 16:33:00 - [11] - Quote If you have the old PS3 stop playing immediately after a crash. If you have the new one, go into the Recovery Menu and choose REBUILD DATABASE, which has improved perfirmance tremendously.
Stile451 Red Star. 76	Posted - 2012.08.22 16:52:00 - [12] - Quote Saiibot wrote: Sony is rushing them No, I think we're rushing them.
RulkezX Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.08.22 17:38:00 - [13] - Quote Stile451 wrote: Saiibot wrote: Sony is rushing them No, I think we're rushing them. Really ? the development time for Dust is already pretty long. Especially considering it's a very very average shooter at this stage.
The2 Holgg BetaMax Beta 47	Posted - 2012.08.22 18:30:00 - [14] - Quote D Avenue wrote: Nu11u5 wrote: Yep, every time Dust freezes the little gears inside the PS3's Cell Processor bind up and grind, wearing themselves out until they fail completely... /sarcasm The threat of damaging the console is not as significant as people make it out to be. The only way for software to damage the console is by over-heating, and the PS3 has protections against that. Instead of continuing to run the game and overheat, you would notice the console (gasp) freezes or shuts off. Just let it cool down a bit before playing again if you are worried. But, in most cases a crash is caused by unrecoverable software bugs, not thermal-protection kicking in. Don't listen to this troll saying killing power from the switch on the back of the PS3 is not bad for it. There is a reason you shut off computers using a shut down effort instead of simply powering the box down immediately. During a normal shutdown, (amongst doing many other things) - OS closes any files it was reading or writing - OS closes any access it has to the system registry - the little hard disk arm is parked carefully at one side of the disk Pressing the power switch cuts power immediately to the whole PS3 What effect does this have? Any files that the OS was writing to may now have incomplete or corrupt data, because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing properly. If the OS was writing to the registry, the system registry may now have incomplete or corrupt data because you didnGÇÖt allow it to finish writing. The hard disk arm, not being allowed to park by the side of the disk, may scratch or damage the spinning disk, causing data to become corrupt. (obviously not dust, but if you have another disc in the PS3) Just some reasons, not saying it will happen to you, but your risking it every time you do it Hard lock up sucks and i had 2 yesterday with the new build and even myself decided it may no longer be worth it till they fix the bugs Well your right about everything but the disk arm. It uses magnets that keep it in place. So you don't have to worry about any physical damage. But software wise some thing my happen, but just do a system reset every year or so and you shod be safe. And one more tip for all of you that have a hard time whit freezes buy a can of air and blow your PS3 clear of any dust. This fixed 80% of my freezes
Daemon Knight22 0	Posted - 2012.08.22 18:34:00 - [15] - Quote I've corrupted one hard drive due to hard resets playing this game to the point the ps3 couldn't reformat it. It's not outside the realm of possibility. Brand new hard drive now but I've been wanting a larger drive anyway.
woess Kanalanal 23	Posted - 2012.08.22 19:14:00 - [16] - Quote srsly all the battlefield games srashed my ps3 more often as dust did... since 2007 and my baby lives
Sergeant Wiznowski Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 38	Posted - 2012.08.23 09:36:00 - [17] - Quote I would suggest putting your PS3 about an inch higher. There might be not enough airflow. And of course never play with closed cabinet doors. BF3 gives my ps3 way more hard resets.


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