DUST Search - The "Minddrive" Breach SMG is broken

Buzzwords wrote:

Loss Tovas wrote:

Buzzwords wrote:

it seems like an honest, though significant, oversight on the part of ccp. god forbid somebody point it out though.

"subject to change" doesn't mean "will be fixed by magic" there's a reason we're beta testing this. put a few thousand people into the market and someone will find the typos.

and sure enough, there is 2 of them. minddrive and killswitch.

also there's a small container on some of the initial spawns that if you stand near the end of it, it will propel you into the air. i'd love to give more info but i dunno the name of the map since we can't pick them. it's the one with all the rocky structure in the center.

but i guess i shouldn't point that out because it's a beta and subject to change

Nice strawman. If that's what you think this is about you belong in the Mouth-Breather Brigade along with the other people crying about P2W.

i don't think i'm catching your point here man. it SEEMS like you're saying that these mistakes don't matter because the game is still in beta.

i'm saying that BECAUSE the game is still in beta, it is our duty to point out these mistakes? because, beta... test?

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Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.08.21 19:53:00 - [1] - Quote All the other breach variants were nerfed, but somehow the Minddrive wasn't touched. Its damage is 40.7, the Boundless Breach prototype is 32.4. Everything else is the same. That's about it. It's quite literally pay to win right now. 7 AUR, go get 'em boys. On a side note, the Killswitch GEK has a typo as well. It's obvious that it's supposed to be a low-skill equivalent of the Duvolle because of the fitting requirements, but it has 33 damage instead of 36.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2012.08.21 19:57:00 - [2] - Quote So you are saying that right now, in beta, the game is p2w? That crazy considering everything isn't implemented yet and the opening screen tells you this **** is subject to change. I don't know how some of you make it through life with out choking to death on your own tongues.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:19:00 - [3] - Quote Err, no. I'm saying that the weapon is, by definition, "pay to win". It is not a side grade item nor a way to get a nicer weapon with fewer skill points. It is simply better than everything else of its class. You should probably go take a walk, fly a spaceship, something like that. Anger like that can't be healthy.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:23:00 - [4] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: You should probably go take a walk, fly a spaceship, something like that. Anger like that can't be healthy. You should probably take some reading comprehension courses. Because if all you got outta that was vitriol you really are dumber than I gave you credit for.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:24:00 - [5] - Quote Loss Tovas wrote: So you are saying that right now, in beta, the game is p2w? That crazy considering everything isn't implemented yet and the opening screen tells you this **** is subject to change. I don't know how some of you make it through life with out choking to death on your own tongues. it seems like an honest, though significant, oversight on the part of ccp. god forbid somebody point it out though. "subject to change" doesn't mean "will be fixed by magic" there's a reason we're beta testing this. put a few thousand people into the market and someone will find the typos. and sure enough, there is 2 of them. minddrive and killswitch. also there's a small container on some of the initial spawns that if you stand near the end of it, it will propel you into the air. i'd love to give more info but i dunno the name of the map since we can't pick them. it's the one with all the rocky structure in the center. but i guess i shouldn't point that out because it's a beta and subject to change
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:29:00 - [6] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: it seems like an honest, though significant, oversight on the part of ccp. god forbid somebody point it out though. "subject to change" doesn't mean "will be fixed by magic" there's a reason we're beta testing this. put a few thousand people into the market and someone will find the typos. and sure enough, there is 2 of them. minddrive and killswitch. also there's a small container on some of the initial spawns that if you stand near the end of it, it will propel you into the air. i'd love to give more info but i dunno the name of the map since we can't pick them. it's the one with all the rocky structure in the center. but i guess i shouldn't point that out because it's a beta and subject to change Nice strawman. If that's what you think this is about you belong in the Mouth-Breather Brigade along with the other people crying about P2W.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:35:00 - [7] - Quote Loss Tovas wrote: Buzzwords wrote: it seems like an honest, though significant, oversight on the part of ccp. god forbid somebody point it out though. "subject to change" doesn't mean "will be fixed by magic" there's a reason we're beta testing this. put a few thousand people into the market and someone will find the typos. and sure enough, there is 2 of them. minddrive and killswitch. also there's a small container on some of the initial spawns that if you stand near the end of it, it will propel you into the air. i'd love to give more info but i dunno the name of the map since we can't pick them. it's the one with all the rocky structure in the center. but i guess i shouldn't point that out because it's a beta and subject to change Nice strawman. If that's what you think this is about you belong in the Mouth-Breather Brigade along with the other people crying about P2W. i don't think i'm catching your point here man. it SEEMS like you're saying that these mistakes don't matter because the game is still in beta. i'm saying that BECAUSE the game is still in beta, it is our duty to point out these mistakes? because, beta... test?
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:43:00 - [8] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: i don't think i'm catching your point here man. it SEEMS like you're saying that these mistakes don't matter because the game is still in beta. i'm saying that BECAUSE the game is still in beta, it is our duty to point out these mistakes? because, beta... test? It can't be a mistake if everything isn't even implemented because we are in a Beta, this is NOT my point. It also can't be P2W when the market, weapons, skills, etc isn't implemented because we are in a Beta, this IS my point. People post, with one person even changing their name to PAY_TO_WIN, to QQ about an issue that isn't an issue yet. Now, we have everything put in place and are one step from launch and we still have gear balance issues due to what is most obviously a Dust style "monoclegate" then I'll be right there with them. Until then it is beyond stupid to post about something that isn't even an issue yet.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:47:00 - [9] - Quote Ahhh, the Minddrive escaped the nerf-bat. That explains why Zitro keeps murdilizing me with it. (Instead of just murdilizing me with whatever is on hand.)
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:53:00 - [10] - Quote Loss Tovas wrote: Buzzwords wrote: i don't think i'm catching your point here man. it SEEMS like you're saying that these mistakes don't matter because the game is still in beta. i'm saying that BECAUSE the game is still in beta, it is our duty to point out these mistakes? because, beta... test? It can't be a mistake if everything isn't even implemented because we are in a Beta, this is NOT my point. It also can't be P2W when the market, weapons, skills, etc isn't implemented because we are in a Beta, this IS my point. People post, with one person even changing their name to PAY_TO_WIN, to QQ about an issue that isn't an issue yet. Now, we have everything put in place and are one step from launch and we still have gear balance issues due to what is most obviously a Dust style "monoclegate" then I'll be right there with them. Until then it is beyond stupid to post about something that isn't even an issue yet. Can I get an ETA for when errors become an issue? Is it 2 weeks or 3? Maybe a day before launch? It is an issue. We're supposed to point out irregularities as soon as we see them so they can be fixed. The earlier, the better. Also, the OP isn't PAY-2-WIN. Misplaced anger much?

Bo Tracta Celtic Anarchy 56	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:54:00 - [11] - Quote Also check the "Killswitch" and "Blindfire" assault rifles, I'm not sure if it's just a typo in the information screen or if the damage of the weapons matches the info.
KingBlade82 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:55:00 - [12] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: Loss Tovas wrote: Buzzwords wrote: it seems like an honest, though significant, oversight on the part of ccp. god forbid somebody point it out though. "subject to change" doesn't mean "will be fixed by magic" there's a reason we're beta testing this. put a few thousand people into the market and someone will find the typos. and sure enough, there is 2 of them. minddrive and killswitch. also there's a small container on some of the initial spawns that if you stand near the end of it, it will propel you into the air. i'd love to give more info but i dunno the name of the map since we can't pick them. it's the one with all the rocky structure in the center. but i guess i shouldn't point that out because it's a beta and subject to change Nice strawman. If that's what you think this is about you belong in the Mouth-Breather Brigade along with the other people crying about P2W. i don't think i'm catching your point here man. it SEEMS like you're saying that these mistakes don't matter because the game is still in beta. i'm saying that BECAUSE the game is still in beta, it is our duty to point out these mistakes? because, beta... test? Amarr smh i agree with the issue i havent checked guns cause i checked last build for stats but no reason they should force u to buy a game gun with real money although last build they had less cpu and pg(or just cpu cant remember) use i dont like the way it seems to be going
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.08.21 20:59:00 - [13] - Quote Bo Tracta wrote: Also check the "Killswitch" and "Blindfire" assault rifles, I'm not sure if it's just a typo in the information screen or if the damage of the weapons matches the info. i think the blindfire is correct, it's right in there with the normal type gek advanced rifle. so all the aurum does for you there is get you early access. the killswitch looks like the exact OPPOSITE of pay to win, you pay to lose there, it's nearly identical to the regular advanced tier gek, but with nearly double the cpu/pg requirements. so this is likely a mistake.
Bo Tracta Celtic Anarchy 56	Posted - 2012.08.21 21:10:00 - [14] - Quote It's funny because I've seen people using the Killswitch, they may be doing the higher damage, but I wouldn't risk it.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.08.21 21:20:00 - [15] - Quote That's just it. The Killswitch actually isn't higher damage than the GEK at the moment. It's an AUR AR that takes more fitting than the GEK for exactly the same stats. It's evident that CCP meant for it to do the Duvolle's damage rate rather than the GEK's.


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