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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:43:00 -
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Despite how people say the newer controls would stop viper camping. I as predicted building camping is back I've seen it in 3 matches now flying to the top of some really high towers. It just also just sucks the way the park prevents most swarm launchers from hitting them proper unless you're at the right angle finally with the lock range nerf inbound well... I can only see this happening more.
The newer controls also makes it very hard for the average pilot to fly up to challenge them.
Swarm launcher behavior is unreliable as missiles dont like climbing altitude anymore.
Forge Gun range is not significant enough to reach them anymore.
The only real two counters ive seen so far are snipers (dont miss) and tanks on a hill. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:47:00 -
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It costs them a pretty penny now so they lose money |
Sees-Too-Much
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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:48:00 -
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I'm more surprised that people are willing to spend 150k just to park on top of a building. Doesn't seem like a good use of isk. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:50:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It costs them a pretty penny now so they lose money
only if you nail them, the last one took a tank parked on a hill to kill it. Missiles for some reason like flying downward or trying to hit underneath it. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:52:00 -
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lol for real? Just get a forgegun and blast them off the tower. Easy SP if you ask me. The draw distance has beeing increased so you can see them. And those things do cost you quite a good amount of ISK. You could do better things as wasting ISK for a dropship. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:52:00 -
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my gunner scored 3 kills and we were
airbourne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2nxqnyM13E
the whole time...
thank you for flying Tebow Air... Have a nice F'in day.
PS, talk to me goose...
stale beerz bos.. drink em if u got em |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:00:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:lol for real? Just get a forgegun and blast them off the tower. Easy SP if you ask me. The draw distance has beeing increased so you can see them. And those things do cost you quite a good amount of ISK. You could do better things as wasting ISK for a dropship.
forge gun nerfed to the point you cant hit them that high. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:00:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:my gunner scored 3 kills and we were airbourne http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2nxqnyM13Ethe whole time... thank you for flying Tebow Air... Have a nice F'in day. PS, talk to me goose... stale beerz bos.. drink em if u got em
doesnt beat my record of killing two tanks at least :P but that was before wipe. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It costs them a pretty penny now so they lose money only if you nail them, the last one took a tank parked on a hill to kill it. Missiles for some reason like flying downward or trying to hit underneath it.
It is lost at the end of the match so the user ends in a net loss |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:my gunner scored 3 kills and we were airbourne http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2nxqnyM13Ethe whole time... thank you for flying Tebow Air... Have a nice F'in day. PS, talk to me goose... stale beerz bos.. drink em if u got em doesnt beat my record of killing two tanks at least :P but that was before wipe.
bro we used to **** tanks last wipe with a high orbit above them.. will happen again soon.. [top gun high five/low five] |
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:25:00 -
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I parked a Viper on a tower. Felt a littleGǪ guilty. Then realized I had blasters fitted. Instead of missiles. So I flew down to one of the objectives to see if I could camp it from the ground. Dropship blasters seem to have a range like the nova knife. Nothing like a blaster installation.
So finally I decided to run out and hack an objective and got killed. Spawned, ran as fast as I could to where I had parked my drop ship and some ungracious lout had blown it up. I was just in time to see it go.
I learned my lesson. Three matches later earned enough ISK for another drop ship. Equipped the missiles, called in the ship, promptly crashed it into a tower. |
EMPTY SL0T
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:47:00 -
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I saw a Viper on one of the tall buildings in the Biomass map. It was just sitting there firing down at the city. I was very pleased with myself (I suck at this game), when I was able to pick off the toon behind the gun from a mountain outside the city with a long range, basic, Tactical Sniper Rifle. Took two quick shots.
M.T. |
Badly Owned
xOne Man Armyx
49
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Posted - 2012.08.20 11:42:00 -
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yea i was the one that got taken out by the tank that game when the swarms failed to hit me.
btw i netted 118k something sp out of that so was well worth the 200k isk invested
plus i made over 100k isk that game
not counting the 5x promethus salvage =p
with the way swarms are now and how they fly. since i can't get the swarms to smack into buildings and doing a barrel roll, loop or Immelmann(which btw can be done with this new physics) doesn't really lose them. then yep bout all they are good for towers and spawning snipers and swarms on towers. |
William HBonney
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
318
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:08:00 -
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yeah, in the old build swarms at least had the ability to gain the trajectory needed to hit camped DS, now they go headlong into the tower, and the nerfed forge gun can't hit more then 5 m away, so this build actually encourages more camping on towers.. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:10:00 -
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I saw this once.
My old tricks for hitting tower campers no longer work (lose lock too fast after turning away), but I've already found a few new ones, so no worries. |
Darkz azurr
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:15:00 -
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i doubt they will do that once fighters are in the game, they wouldnt last long up there. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:16:00 -
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anyone doing such things, can't be making ISK with the lower rewards |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:17:00 -
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Darkz azurr wrote:i doubt they will do that once fighters are in the game, they wouldnt last long up there.
Which is the other reason why I say current controls suck for the drop ship. There is no way you're saving that DS from a fighter with the same controls better speed and foward guns. |
Badly Owned
xOne Man Armyx
49
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:26:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:anyone doing such things, can't be making ISK with the lower rewards
Will gladly throw away 200k isk for 100k skill points. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:27:00 -
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^ reason revealed. |
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Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:28:00 -
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As ppl get more skills and isk to burn, everything that we saw in the last build will eventually be in this build. It will just take a bit of time for it to become more frequent. There were counters then and there still are. Although, I'm finding it much easier to kill a ds on a tower now with a swarm launcher since I can be nearly clear across the map to get a good angle and a couple missles out of the swarm will hit them. |
Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:31:00 -
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i was sniping, found myself a jeep driver running is gun, so lined up the headshot, caressed the trigger.
BANG, wiz, thud. oh shizzle, run.
i had a 100% headshot when i next looked the jeeps shield had a dink.
i done this a few times and found your unable to hit gunners, the hitcounter thinks its the jeep / dropship and not the gunner your going for.
add stairways into the towers, and ban anything like dropships tanks/jeeps from the rooftops. |
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