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Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.20 03:55:00 -
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250k isk saga, gone from one shot from a blaster turret, from fulls shields, I just instapop.
I do not understand. |
Rohnan Senkusha
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.08.20 04:01:00 -
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250mill???!!!!
holy crap thats an expensive saga.... |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.20 04:04:00 -
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Rohnan Senkusha wrote:250mill???!!!!
holy crap thats an expensive saga....
oops, better *edit* |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:13:00 -
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It's a militia vehicle and the gun does way more damage then your little tank can handle, in last build my gunlogi was one shot by forge guns in full resist fit.
So just get used to idea that your tank might pop any time someone has an AV fit or mans a turret against it. |
St Evilsbitch
HavoK Core
4
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:09:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:It's a militia vehicle and the gun does way more damage then your little tank can handle, in last build my gunlogi was one shot by forge guns in full resist fit.
So just get used to idea that your tank might pop any time someone has an AV fit or mans a turret against it.
This answer annoys me. IT IS A 250k VEHICLE. That means on average he will have to play 4 rounds to buy one. So the inherent value verses usefulness of the vehicle is NOT balanced and therefor worthless. All of the vehicles are completely broken in this build. Pretty sad CCP decided to bend to a few crybabies whims on this one.
For all of those about to say crap like "it is a gun game" and "get good". Actually it isn't A gun game. it isn't just an fps. It is far more. I highly doubt people from the eve universe would walk around a planet throwing sticks and stones at each other. They would use tanks, and all sorts of ships. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.20 18:44:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:It's a militia vehicle and the gun does way more damage then your little tank can handle, in last build my gunlogi was one shot by forge guns in full resist fit.
So just get used to idea that your tank might pop any time someone has an AV fit or mans a turret against it.
The Saga is not a militia vehicle, the Onikuma is the Caldari Militia LAV.
And the Blaster is a high ROF low damage turret, so why is it instantly killing me when I get hit? I have 2 x azeotropic shield extenders and a resist amp. I havent had ANY trouble with Soma's fielding large blaster turrets, so why does the fixed turret instapop me?
Sounds like a glitch to me.
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carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.08.20 18:53:00 -
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Though you we're talking about rail guns though large blasters shoots a hail of bullets so even if they might do low damage there's enough to shred vehicles to pieces.
Also before the wipe in this build marauders easily one shotted any turret installations so it's balanced not just the way you think.
However LAV is pretty much impenetrable to light weapons so it evens it out some what though easiest way is to drive next to turret and hack it, trying to destroy a turret with LAV only ends in a disaster. |
Umallon Macross
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2012.08.20 19:05:00 -
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According to some rough calculations using these stats:
Saga :
2446 SHP
-18% resist
17.92 recharge
80GJ Neutron Blaster:
120.7 damage
428.6 ROF
The Blaster would have to hit my Saga continuously for at least 3.5 seconds with EVERY shot landing.
This is NOT consistent with in game events which have occurred TWICE where I had full shields and died INSTANTLY.
It is consistent with my in game experiences with tanks wielding Blasters.
Either the fixed turret is glitched, or its stats are borked.
And yes, I checked the kill notifications to find out wtf had killed me so fast, and both times it was Blasters. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.20 19:29:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:Though you we're talking about rail guns though large blasters shoots a hail of bullets so even if they might do low damage there's enough to shred vehicles to pieces.
Also before the wipe in this build marauders easily one shotted any turret installations so it's balanced not just the way you think.
However LAV is pretty much impenetrable to light weapons so it evens it out some what though easiest way is to drive next to turret and hack it, trying to destroy a turret with LAV only ends in a disaster.
NO Marauder would one shot kill turrets. None.
Two shots on a full strength Turret at the very best. three shots normally.
No. The cost of tanks, even the Gunollogy (which I've killed one of with a militia SL and no damage mods) far, far outweighs their usefulness.
If a militia starter fit can kill a non militia tank before he can even turn his turrets to retaliate, something is seriously wrong.
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