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Hideki Tsukune
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:03:00 -
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When dropsuit multiplayer was changed from x1 to x8 I didn't complain but in this new patch I can't even buy Surya after match cause it costs now 1 mil ISK! I don't know maybe there is a way to make 1 mil ISK in one combat, tell me then.
Congrats to those who always cry that tanks should be nerved now I won't be able to restock my Surya when I will run out of my 12 left.
P.S.: Before the patch I was able to restock my Surya by 2 tanks only for 200k ISK and now it costs 1 mil |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:06:00 -
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sounds about right. I am running into the same prblem with my suits and having to rebudget oeprations again. I am eagerly waiting for the guys to run out of protosuits or the wipe. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:15:00 -
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Hideki Tsukune wrote:When dropsuit multiplayer was changed from x1 to x8 I didn't complain but in this new patch I can't even buy Surya after match cause it costs now 1 mil ISK! I don't know maybe there is a way to make 1 mil ISK in one combat, tell me then. Congrats to those who always cry that tanks should be nerved now I won't be able to restock my Surya when I will run out of my 12 left. P.S.: Before the patch I was able to restock my Surya by 2 tanks only for 200k ISK and now it costs 1 mil
Right! And that's how it should be. Vehicles are not supposed to be used EVERY game, only when you have a strategic .advantage .buy militia tanks, and fit them with militia gear until you raise enough isk. I like the fact the vehicles are very expensive now...it prevents vehicle spamming. Are you an eve player? Probably not or you wouldn't be complaining. How much do you think ships cost in eve? Ccp had these prices planned from day one, look at the trailer that has the assault rifle with the reflex scope from 2010/11.........1mil 400k for a basic tank, suck it up! |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:26:00 -
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Imagine how the guy that pays 120 million for MCC feels when ever his side loses skirmish match. I have feeling skirmish will not be a common mode when players start controlling the mcc.
I thought it was odd the gunnlogi served no purpose once sagaris was available, now it has one. Sagaris/surya are special ocation tanks now. And hav in general won't be spammed. It would be nice to have few more on field, EvE had skill to raise npc mission payout, maybe that will be added? Once launched, nullsec profits will be higher, so dedicated surya/sagaris drivers will end up chasing the high payout stuff to nullsec. |
Ziggie Smalls
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:31:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Hideki Tsukune wrote:When dropsuit multiplayer was changed from x1 to x8 I didn't complain but in this new patch I can't even buy Surya after match cause it costs now 1 mil ISK! I don't know maybe there is a way to make 1 mil ISK in one combat, tell me then. Congrats to those who always cry that tanks should be nerved now I won't be able to restock my Surya when I will run out of my 12 left. P.S.: Before the patch I was able to restock my Surya by 2 tanks only for 200k ISK and now it costs 1 mil Right! And that's how it should be. Vehicles are not supposed to be used EVERY game, only when you have a strategic .advantage .buy militia tanks, and fit them with militia gear until you raise enough isk. I like the fact the vehicles are very expensive now...it prevents vehicle spamming. Are you an eve player? Probably not or you wouldn't be complaining. How much do you think ships cost in eve? Ccp had these prices planned from day one, look at the trailer that has the assault rifle with the reflex scope from 2010/11.........1mil 400k for a basic tank, suck it up!
+1 for getting it.
Yes, this is how things should be. A marauder should be FEARED, and likewise the driver should be taking a large risk by bringing such a valuable item into combat. Like jumping in a supercarrier (for you EVE vets). It also means we can play more run and gun fittings instead of needing half the team to fit forge guns just to stand a chance. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.16 08:13:00 -
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you also need to look at the otherside once you can afford the tank it wont die as much as there is no way i can afford a proto forge gun now, in the last build if there some one dropped a tank then i had no problem dropping a proto heavy with proto forge gun and proto av grenades, now it will be a militia scout with a militia SL :) |
Ad ski
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.16 08:38:00 -
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I have multiple tanks left that I might just spam until the wipe. What you have to remember is those who relied so heavily on tanks will be on foot more. Remember all those times they just sat back and killed you from their tank? Now is you chance to get payback and t-bag the living crap outta them. |
Hideki Tsukune
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Posted - 2012.08.16 08:45:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Hideki Tsukune wrote:When dropsuit multiplayer was changed from x1 to x8 I didn't complain but in this new patch I can't even buy Surya after match cause it costs now 1 mil ISK! I don't know maybe there is a way to make 1 mil ISK in one combat, tell me then. Congrats to those who always cry that tanks should be nerved now I won't be able to restock my Surya when I will run out of my 12 left. P.S.: Before the patch I was able to restock my Surya by 2 tanks only for 200k ISK and now it costs 1 mil Right! And that's how it should be. Vehicles are not supposed to be used EVERY game, only when you have a strategic .advantage .buy militia tanks, and fit them with militia gear until you raise enough isk. I like the fact the vehicles are very expensive now...it prevents vehicle spamming. Are you an eve player? Probably not or you wouldn't be complaining. How much do you think ships cost in eve? Ccp had these prices planned from day one, look at the trailer that has the assault rifle with the reflex scope from 2010/11.........1mil 400k for a basic tank, suck it up!
You must be that one "crying" dude ) And lol man don't compare simple tanks with spaceships omfg! |
Hideki Tsukune
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Posted - 2012.08.16 08:49:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:Imagine how the guy that pays 120 million for MCC feels when ever his side loses skirmish match. I have feeling skirmish will not be a common mode when players start controlling the mcc.
I thought it was odd the gunnlogi served no purpose once sagaris was available, now it has one. Sagaris/surya are special ocation tanks now. And hav in general won't be spammed. It would be nice to have few more on field, EvE had skill to raise npc mission payout, maybe that will be added? Once launched, nullsec profits will be higher, so dedicated surya/sagaris drivers will end up chasing the high payout stuff to nullsec. At last wise thoughts. Maybe it wil be so... Looking forward to it. |
Laz Ulian Sol
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.16 08:54:00 -
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The price doesn't bother me.
It's the lack of a reasonable incentive to use a marauder class over a standard HAV that bothers me.
I've explained it more in detail here |
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Ourors
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.16 09:25:00 -
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this makes will fit marauders almost unstoppable, since nobody wants to spend money on a good AV fit if they'll just get killed by some random dude in militia gear and be out 90k isk per death.
i see, at most, one set of proto swarms a game firing against me.
i literally just turn a corner and lead the guy into friendlies.
he generally doesn't try again |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.08.16 09:41:00 -
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Ad ski wrote:I have multiple tanks left that I might just spam until the wipe. What you have to remember is those who relied so heavily on tanks will be on foot more. Remember all those times they just sat back and killed you from their tank? Now is you chance to get payback and t-bag the living crap outta them.
**** yeah those bastards are going to get payback.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.08.16 09:47:00 -
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Ourors wrote:this makes will fit marauders almost unstoppable, since nobody wants to spend money on a good AV fit if they'll just get killed by some random dude in militia gear and be out 90k isk per death.
i see, at most, one set of proto swarms a game firing against me.
i literally just turn a corner and lead the guy into friendlies.
he generally doesn't try again
HELL NO!! PROTO FORGE GUN!! SMG at L5 for those times when its time to play bullet tag with the orange "friendlies"
And if not then either a Surya or a Sagaris to go tank hunting and never mind the isk cost.
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Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2012.08.16 10:26:00 -
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Ziggie Smalls wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Hideki Tsukune wrote:When dropsuit multiplayer was changed from x1 to x8 I didn't complain but in this new patch I can't even buy Surya after match cause it costs now 1 mil ISK! I don't know maybe there is a way to make 1 mil ISK in one combat, tell me then. Congrats to those who always cry that tanks should be nerved now I won't be able to restock my Surya when I will run out of my 12 left. P.S.: Before the patch I was able to restock my Surya by 2 tanks only for 200k ISK and now it costs 1 mil Right! And that's how it should be. Vehicles are not supposed to be used EVERY game, only when you have a strategic .advantage .buy militia tanks, and fit them with militia gear until you raise enough isk. I like the fact the vehicles are very expensive now...it prevents vehicle spamming. Are you an eve player? Probably not or you wouldn't be complaining. How much do you think ships cost in eve? Ccp had these prices planned from day one, look at the trailer that has the assault rifle with the reflex scope from 2010/11.........1mil 400k for a basic tank, suck it up! +1 for getting it. Yes, this is how things should be. A marauder should be FEARED, and likewise the driver should be taking a large risk by bringing such a valuable item into combat. Like jumping in a supercarrier (for you EVE vets). It also means we can play more run and gun fittings instead of needing half the team to fit forge guns just to stand a chance.
-1 for not getting it. Who fears marauders now? Yes maybe they shouldn't be being fielded in every match, but more to the point, why would you bother now? No 1.5 damage mod, 3000 damage before skills/boosters/mods for forge guns.
There might aswell be removed from game. There tier 1 tanks that cost an extra mil. An tier 1 tanks are not worth it now either thanks to the av buff. Might aswell use a lav. Either won't sustain a battle with AV |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
317
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Posted - 2012.08.16 10:32:00 -
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some of us were smart enough to stock pile a few hundered Tanks before the price increase. However the new prices are abit excessive. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2012.08.16 11:28:00 -
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I make enough to pay for a fitted Marauder in 3-4 matches, so the tank only has to last that long before I start making profit from any potential loss, and I have very little problem making a tank last that long. I invite you to blow me up, but the AV resistance I see in 90% of my matches is just pathetic, so good luck?
EDIT: And I'm sure the inevitable "OMG GET GUN GAME SCRUB" will come up, I often play Logistics on foot and pull a 2+ KDR. Just because I choose to fill a role in the game that uses tanks, does not mean I'm useless when it comes to the "gun game". |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2012.08.16 11:29:00 -
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Where is it said that vehicles aren't supposed to be used in every match? So the guy who has 7+ million SP in vehicles is supposed to...what...sit around with his thumb up his arse? Maybe he gets to use his skill points once a month, after spending a mind numbing number of hours leaching isk from ninja hacking stuff in a militia suit? Sounds like a great way to keep someone playing. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.16 11:57:00 -
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The price hike would have been more than sufficient to balance the HAVs, but as it stands now, they aren't even worth an 8th of what they cost now. We're starting to suffer from Starhawk Syndrome in this beta. Everyone whines so much about one asset before its counter becomes available that it gets nerfed into the dirt before that happens. |
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