Severus Smith
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:26:00 -
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Ender 22 wrote:theschizogenious wrote:used full militia died alot made 500k isk your argument is invalid have a nice day  I fail to see how that invalidates my argument, What are you going to do with that 500k? Die 2.5 times in your shiny proto gear and go back to the useless milita gear with your awesome 1:4...1:6 kdr?
I think you miss the point of Proto gear, it isn't for everyone. Proto Gear is for players who are funded by EVE pilots. That is the point of this game. You are a Mercenary who fights at the whims of the demigods of space. EVE Pilots.
In EVE I can have my pilot go do a level 4 mission and make roughly 50,000,000 ISK in an hour or so. I then take that 50,000,000 ISK and hire a group of Dust Mercs to go kill things for me. Fight well, and I'll hire you for a nice juicy contract.
And how much does a full Proto suit cost? 1 - 2 million ISK at max? That is a pittance in EVE. Ships are blown up every minute that cost 100x times that. Alliances commonly lose BILLIONS of ISK in fleet battles and shrug it off.
I think the problem is that non EVE players have a skewed perspective of the currency levels. When people see "1 million ISK" they think that's a lot. It isn't' To help put it into perspective for non EVE players: 1 million ISK roughly equals 1 gold in WoW. So remember that when you read these posts about how much stuff costs. That 1.5 million proto suit is a measly 1.5 gold to a level 85 WoW player. If you're aiming for the end game and can't spare that tiny amount of change then you aren't ready for the end game.
And remember the #1 rule of New Eden. Don't use what you can't afford to lose. |
Severus Smith
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Posted - 2012.08.17 19:49:00 -
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Dante Daedrik wrote:Granted in EVE you dont constantly respawn in your shiny ship among enemy forces. Ships in EVE have longer survivability and life expectancy than a dropsuit in Dust and therefor the risk = the reward.
True, you don't respawn under fire. But that Battleship you just lost costs a HELL of a lot more than a proto suit. A standard Tier 2 Battleship hull can run you from 50 million ISK to 75 million ISK. That's 25x the cost of an amazing Proto fit right there and you have a ship with no armor, weapons, shields, or other modules.
Ships in EVE cost a lot. Look at these two links to put it into perspective...
RvB - Red August Killboard
RvB - Blue August Killboard
At this moment, each side has killed roughly 130 Billion ISK worth of ships and modules over the last 17 days. That's 15 Billion ISK of destruction a day. And this is one High Sec alliance fielding smaller, cheaper ships. Going out to null sec there are Capital ships that when lost equal 15 Billion ISK, per ship.
And that's the point I keep trying to make. 1 million ISK is nothing in EVE. It's equivalent to 1 gold in WoW. When you're fighting on a Corporations wallet then you can afford to use Proto gear because a 2 million ISK proto fit is pennies to them. If anything the prices may need to increase so that Corps cant just mandate proto gear for everything.
I understand that a lot of the people complaining about prices are coming from Call of Duty or Battlefield where there isn't an established MMO that will be fueling the economy. So believe us EVE players who know that, if anything, the prices of gear is either fine or too cheap.
If nothing else read this
Militia gear is for throwaway matches like the ones were currently testing in the Beta. Matches where the outcome means absolutely nothing to the scheme of everything. Advanced / Proto gear is for Corp funded matches where losing the fight may mean losing valuable resources or control over a sovereign system. This is where Billions of ISK will be thrown at Dust players to give them every possible advantage on the battlefield. It is those fights where Proto gear will be mandatory, high SP will be mandatory, and winning or losing the match means everything.
Unfortunately those Corp matches don't exist yet so were stuck with these silly throwaway matches where fielding Proto gear is like bringing a $1000 bottle of aged scotch to a frat party. |