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ONS TheReaper545
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:59:00 -
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I was playing yesterday and I walked into a scout suit all is fine and well until i noticed i shot 5 freaking clips at him with my cursor firmly placed over him and we weren't that far apart well as the mini battle kept going a few more of my team showed up... There were five of us five... shooting at but apparently not hitting him its getting ridiculous... The fight ended when i blew him up with a grenade but he managed to kill one of the guys bravely rushing at him keeping him in place till the nade went off...
So as of now i'm done playing until the character wipe which will hopefully be soon. As soon as the character wipe comes I'm techin straight for proto scout not gonna waste points in much else... Maybe towards smg and grenades as well just so i can counter other proto suits with my own grenades. |
Bo Tracta
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:01:00 -
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Try mass drivers... |
ONS TheReaper545
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:04:00 -
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Bo Tracta wrote:Try mass drivers...
Yea I did but it usually takes and entire clip with a breach mass driver to kill a scout and that's only on the very best of days. |
Topper McShazbot
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:07:00 -
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Weapon support skills help a WHOLE lot. |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:07:00 -
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Except in a game where specialization is key, it's kinda stupid to keep saying "well use this" or "use" that. The point of the game is for each person to spec into a specific play style.
Saying "well you can use one random obscure way to kill this" is kinda stupid the 100th time and is in no way an excuse for allowing Broken items into the game. |
ONS TheReaper545
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:09:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except in a game where specialization is key, it's kinda stupid to keep saying "well use this" or "use" that. The point of the game is for each person to spec into a specific play style.
Saying "well you can use one random obscure way to kill this" is kinda stupid the 100th time and is in no way an excuse for allowing Broken items into the game.
Welcome to the beta were you have to abuse broken items to force the developers to see the errors of their ways and fix them.
With that I still strongly urge everyone to just use scouts,,, |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:10:00 -
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I think I was there, slightly south of B, it was brutal. His shields regenerated incredibly fast. |
lDocHollidayl
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:25:00 -
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I tried a mass driver...ended up committing suicide. I did not even know I could kill myself with one. I have been blasted at point blank range with a mass driver and have never seen the shooter go down.
I am joining you...scouts all the way. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:34:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except in a game where specialization is key, it's kinda stupid to keep saying "well use this" or "use" that. The point of the game is for each person to spec into a specific play style.
Saying "well you can use one random obscure way to kill this" is kinda stupid the 100th time and is in no way an excuse for allowing Broken items into the game.
just like using smoke grenades to beat an op map  |
Aaron Atreides
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Posted - 2012.08.15 15:40:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:I tried a mass driver...ended up committing suicide. I did not even know I could kill myself with one. I have been blasted at point blank range with a mass driver and have never seen the shooter go down.
I am joining you...scouts all the way.
Hey Doc,
Got to be in a few matches with you last night. Had some odd issues with hitting players with scout suits on, not sure if it was because of the strafe/moving in the box the player was doing but hitting the target or get hits to register seemed off last night.
With Assault and Heavy suits, everything seemed normal. But scout suits, something is off I think.
Did you play with aim assist of and on?
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Bo Tracta
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:00:00 -
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ONS TheReaper545 wrote:Bo Tracta wrote:Try mass drivers... Yea I did but it usually takes and entire clip with a breach mass driver to kill a scout and that's only on the very best of days.
You don't want to be using the Breach, it has less indirect damage (splash damage). Use the normal one instead with damage modifiers. |
mr merkzdem
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:02:00 -
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scouts can run threw rain and not get wet |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:12:00 -
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Oh I see what he did.... The new shield mod, very nice. Going to Do the same on the tech 2 assualt |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:13:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Except in a game where specialization is key, it's kinda stupid to keep saying "well use this" or "use" that. The point of the game is for each person to spec into a specific play style.
Saying "well you can use one random obscure way to kill this" is kinda stupid the 100th time and is in no way an excuse for allowing Broken items into the game.
Scouts are messed up their hit detection makes them unkillable and your post is trie a frontline assault build should be able to mulch a scout in a direct fight hell most if not all infintry should fear a frontline build. Scout need to be fixed, howevr I have to ask was the acout moving with insane speed or shield regen faster than you could hit and what weapon was he using? |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:18:00 -
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i agree. i was shooting at a scout, there were two to three more guys shooting him with me. all of us were decent players in the last build but this scout took us all out, with different weapons as well! the hit detection on scouts is as bad as it was pre replication |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:27:00 -
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i made a post saying scout suits were broken and i'll continue to say they are broken. |
ONS TheReaper545
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:31:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:i made a post saying scout suits were broken and i'll continue to say they are broken.
And for the first time ever i have to agree with you. |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:38:00 -
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Blame hit detection, not the suit, I get killed easily enough when ganged up on. Last night I found myself having to run away from crowds more rather than taking them all out like last build. |
Alshadow
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:31:00 -
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i will say they are alittle overpowered in the right hands, and with the hit detection issues, because i was kicking ass when i used the dragon fly suit with a smg and dmg mods for a match ...... but i never really have that much of an issue killing them honestly, just walk backwards and hip fire with an assault rifle and they die or flee, and on my heavy suit i shred right through them with no effort. idk if its just the people out there with no skill or what buy i dont ever really get killed by em, |
Bravo SnakeBlood
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:58:00 -
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have to agree there appears to be a hit detection issue with scouts in current build, scout suit + shotgun/smg+capable player= the end all of cqc, this effect is also made worse by some serious lag in current build, the point that sheild seems to instantly regan is not helping either, donno if the suit is broken as such but rather a mix of these being capatalised by the current hit detection |
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howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:00:00 -
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ONS TheReaper545 wrote:I was playing yesterday and I walked into a scout suit all is fine and well until i noticed i shot 5 freaking clips at him with my cursor firmly placed over him and we weren't that far apart well as the mini battle kept going a few more of my team showed up... There were five of us five... 'and then some stuff happened'...
So as of now i'm done playing until the character wipe which will hopefully be soon. As soon as the character wipe comes I'm techin straight for proto scout not gonna waste points in much else... Maybe towards smg and grenades as well just so i can counter other proto suits with my own grenades.
Ok, let us know when you reach your goal and see that everything is different from you expectations again
And guess what- it's not JUST because it's beta; CCP likes to vary and change the balancing aspects of the game in a constant effort to keep us on our toes. It keeps the gameplay fresh and evolving
The will always be a flavor of the month,week,day. It's up to you to either keep eating new ice cream or look for other kinds of tactics to crush scissors with paper and cut rock with scissors
They discussed in that fan fest video about combat roles ( I think that's where) that they want combined arms and multiple weapon system approaches to conflict to rise above a single style or drop suited method. |
VigSniper101
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:02:00 -
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Strange...lm in a Scout suit and l had no problems getting killed about 5 times in a row in the one match last night l could actually get into.
Couldnt hit a damn thing thou. |
ONS Sparklin FucknUnicorn
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:21:00 -
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IDK if i should agree with those saying it is hit detection, or if its is because like one guy had said, they can run through rain and not get a single drop on them. And as for the shield REGEN, we have a Couple people in ROFL who use scout, well most of them do, but they are damn hard to kill.... BECAUSE of their shield. When you tank the scout with shield UPGRADES. and get all benefiting skills for shields up. they are down right just deadly.
Now on to a different point. i will be playing with the scout because it fits my speed style of running and gunning. but i will not be the JUMPY, run till y shield REGEN type of scout. i will be the get in ya face and hope my OP shield hold up type of scout. just feels more.... more right to me as a FPS pro. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:36:00 -
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As someone with 25mil SP exclusively into a Scout build, I still get wrecked by Proto AR guys and anything with decent splash damage.
Shields recharge like I'm playing Halo, so everybody make sure you're aim assist is turned on. (Miss a few times and it's like you never hit me at all.)
Once we're all reset, you can go back to slaughtering my squishy Dragonfly suits. |
ONS Sparklin FucknUnicorn
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:37:00 -
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VigSniper101 wrote:Strange...lm in a Scout suit and l had no problems getting killed about 5 times in a row in the one match last night l could actually get into.
Couldnt hit a damn thing thou.
I will agree with you there. with the amount of lag, and the few people been on. i hate to know how bad the lag will be this weekend when the usual players get on. it will be so bad! |
ONS TheReaper545
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Posted - 2012.08.15 19:06:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:
And guess what- it's not JUST because it's beta; CCP likes to vary and change the balancing aspects of the game in a constant effort to keep us on our toes. It keeps the gameplay fresh and evolving
Yea fresh and evolving like the last three builds. Were scout suits were still op because of **** poor hit detection. Before e3 it may have been heavy but scouts were still hard to kill even with a hmg. It shouldn't take 5 clips to even hit him/her one time. Just so that after i hit him/her they can just dance the night away to get shield's back up.
howard sanchez wrote:
The will always be a flavor of the month,week,day. It's up to you to either keep eating new ice cream or look for other kinds of tactics to crush scissors with paper and cut rock with scissors
To bad that scout ice cream must be delicious cause with massive shield regen and bad hit detection it's pretty much hands down the ice cream of choice for this current build like in previous builds.
howard sanchez wrote:
They discussed in that fan fest video about combat roles ( I think that's where) that they want combined arms and multiple weapon system approaches to conflict to rise above a single style or drop suited method.
Scout can play Anti-vehicle and Anti-Infantry so far... I think its the only dropsuit we need. Best part about it is later it will even be able to cloak so :D. Just a few things a scout can do.
Drop uplinks way behind enemy lines without getting detected.
Be a sniper their a small target with little signiture. Combine with cloak for more epic sauce.
Carry a swarm launcher for Av purposes and a Breach smg for both Anti-vehicle and Anti-Infantry.
Give em a hacking module now they can move from point to point quickly hacking every objective.
Give em a nanite injector and some nano-hives and they can becomes the best mobile medics to date.
Give em a Speed Booster and they become the puma's of the battlefield bullets them-self fail to catch them. Cept on the rare occasion.
These are just a few things that a scout can do making it an effective weapons system. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.15 23:14:00 -
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Lolz I swiched to assult this weekend and finding it alot more chill than being a scout. Also so many noob scouts about its easy kills all day 
We need more scouts come on over. |
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