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Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:59:00 - [1] - Quote Hm. Well from what I can tell you only need them for the largest of groups, and/or those whom are in multiple squads all at the same time -- again large corps. Maybe I am wrong, but as far as I can tell they have a limited and small target audiance at the moment. Maybe that might change upon release when we have more in-game mechanics, but really they are limited for the time being. You can group and create your own squad and chat it up. So I have no real complaints to be honest. Atleast upon this subject. Though, Iron Wolf Saber, if you want you can explain what they actually do to me. I feel you have more knowledge on this matter then I do.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:19:00 - [2] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Wakko03 wrote: Yep a 1 time fee, it was a lot better than this nickel and dime nonsense which is going to cost me $55 dollars a year anyway.....so why not drop the free to play namesake and call it what it is, free to download but to play you are really going to need $50. Am I going to have to hear the cries of ps+ users complaining about not getting a later introduced discount? I would rather pay a defined amount and get free Voice chat like in MAG than be forced to pay CCP this. Its devolving into what makes other "free 2 play" games *******, they charge you for anything useful and it ends up costing more than a regular $60 game. If you guysare happy with settling for lesser garbage fine but its a step down from other experiences and i dont buy into it I would not say I am happy, and I suppose I may have implied that I am indifferent to the situation. For which I apologise. However I in no way wish to see Dust514 or become for that matter a pay-to-win*freemium themed game. By which then all it would be missing is Zynga's stamp and logo (am I right?... Too soon?) No, I want to see Dust514 flourish, and if it is only meant for larger corps or another then I see little complaint, but that does not mean I am any less weary or with my own amprehensians. It's a fine line for which CCP to walk and could end up hurting them if they even stumble or trip up. I do not wish to see that. I'd say my biggest complaint is the confusion. Yes, the confusion. Even the description is too vague and offers little as to how it is applied as a game function. Is it for larger corp. talking, or is pay is a pay to talk to EVE Online players?.. Confusing to say the least.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:27:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Very well Ill see about getting clarity from ccp in irc when they show up Thank you, for atleast being rational about this all. Wish more people around the community were as such, but again the world is full of differences, and different peoples and opinions. Anway it's the confusion I am bothered by at the moment. In your upper posting in repliance to my own post, I think you made a number of good points, and I am glad you are in the IRC as like myself many here are not in the IRC. I will agree it goes against the whole of what CCP's objective was and does come off as a sort of "red roping". Anyway if you could explain to me what it actually does? I mean am I right to assume it's just in terms for deploying bigger, or multiple squads as such for corp battles or gatherings, or is it terms a way to talk directly with EVE Online players? See that is part of my confusion. Thank you in advance, Saber Iron Wolf.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:32:00 - [4] - Quote ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote: I can't actually believe you idiots that defend this crap think it's ok, I have never played an online game with friends / clan mates where we have had to pay for comms...... this will make this game fail for anyone with a clan or group of friends more than 4. So a tiny 4 man squad is ok for free but if you have 5 of you playing you all have to then pay a monthly fee which totals to more for a year fee than any other pay to play game I've bought. Not to mention it doesn't work properly at the moment now anyway. Also if you have 2 squads try getting in the same game on the same side together. Good luck. This is garbage. I would rather have paid a one off -ú100. for a game that works properly and doesn't take the p1ss. I do not feel many are what you would say are defending CCP or this proposition of pay to chat feature(s). I feel it's more about being calm and objective at the moment. If anything I feel the majority of us are against it at the moment, but I also feel many are confused by the feature as I know I am. What I feel though is it is a very fine line for CCP to walk. That I am certain of. This is more of what I would say is -- testing the waters. We're being sort of used right now as a mock trial market, and focus group. They deployed AUR purchasable BPO's in this build (and yes, I bought two of them I am ashamed), and they have also deployed other multiple AUR forcused features such as this. It is a fine line from what they originally said.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:46:00 - [5] - Quote Anuliadon Gortusk wrote: I have been playing console online games since the early days of ps2 every console game online that had comms was free even in the lobby or loading stages. Like others have said i would rather pay 40 dollars or even 60 once and just have everything, i'm not inclined to play a "free to play" game when something as crucial as comms requires money i mean they are basically making anyone which wants to play in a corp pay 4.50 a month and that is ridiculous. Well to be frank you do have free in-battle team chat. If you have voice chat [on], and for those of you with push-to-talk [on] you have to press left on your d-pad (directional pad). Personally I turned off my press to talk feature. Found it annoying. You literally have to stop moving to talk? Lame. Anyway you have free group chat for your squad and in-battle chat for team and squad. As far as I know. The whole universal chat thingy here is confusing though, and a bit annoying. As pointed out though we're not happy with it. Even, Iron Wolf Saber, stated he was not particularly happy. As for playing online console games I have been there since the earliest SOCOM days on the PlayStation2, and enjoyed the XBL for the first Xbox too. Halo2 was fun.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.15 08:36:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Okay the IRC crew got a blue post to post from irc clarifying the UVT, and we been feedig the devs back with threads so they are listening and paying attention to this touchy subject. Thanks, Iron Wolf Saber. Still. If it's to pay for cross game chat as I pointed out earlier that I "thought" it was one of two ways. Then I could see more reasoning behind the charge, but I do not feel it should be done in AUR, but rather small subscription. If that is the case though. Perhaps.

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