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Paran Tadec
Imperfects
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:38:00 -
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Well, all you whiners got what you wanted, tanks got their nerf. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:39:00 -
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Flux grenades screw them over, AV grenades hit hard as a rock, Breach Forge guns wipes out the tank layer like it was nothing.
Yeah I say they been nerfed. |
Bob Deorum
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:40:00 -
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ya no more damage modifier haha wonder if the black ops has it. i kinda like it tho makes tank battles last alot longer. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:40:00 -
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Dropships the new tank this build. Trust me. No gud pilots have popped up just yet, but boy people gonna be mad. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:41:00 -
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All of that would be ok if they had kept the damage 1.5x modifier on the maruader. Its gone, and it appears that the damage mods dont work either. |
Bob Deorum
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:50:00 -
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ya i am not sure if the maruader is even worth it any more, I mean you get 30 less cpu and 40 more powergind, for 1m isk more. I mean that extra low slot you get I always have to put a cpu mod in to get hte cpu to a somewhat managable level. so without the damage mod it does not seem like the maruaders are worth it. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.08.15 00:52:00 -
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I've been using a Soma all day and been screwing marauders over. They nerfed them way too much. |
EnIgMa99
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:57:00 -
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Put down the tank pick up the gun :P |
Zcorpion Delireuz
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:35:00 -
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And your more or less forced to go armor tanking :/ shield tankign just isnt optimal anymore with the whole armor burning shitzzneck. |
Ima Leet
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:44:00 -
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Zcorpion Delireuz wrote:And your more or less forced to go armor tanking :/ shield tankign just isnt optimal anymore with the whole armor burning shitzzneck.
i took an armor tank down to nothing, one more hit and he would be dead. but he was shooting me, so i backed up and started to come out and shoot him again. his armor was FULL! wtf. idk. i dont get it. i thought he might blow up since he was on fire and already almost dead... i shouldn't of moved, i should've just shot that last shot.... o well.. i've still not lost one of my sagaris' |
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:46:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Dropships the new tank this build. Trust me. No gud pilots have popped up just yet, but boy people gonna be mad.
I doubt this, the controls are very fighter like, and swarm launchers swat them out of the sky so easily. In the end the dropship is useless in air to ground or air to air. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:05:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Well, all you whiners got what you wanted, tanks got their nerf.
Just confirm that if you are loud enough, obnoxious enough, and dumb enough to not learn to play, a game will be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. Imbecile level in this case, |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:22:00 -
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Learn to tank. Look at the effing large missile. If 900 splash is a Nerf, I hope they Nerf my AR to the same degree. |
Alshadow
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:26:00 -
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i honestly think that the tanks COULD be over powered in the right hands last build, but i gotta say they need to be brought back EXACTLY like they we're but keep the prices where they are at now, and make destroying a tank worth more points the higher tierd the tank is, maradurs should be worth 50% more than standards and keep the prices how they are and that will be big enough of a nerf |
Xavier Hastings
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:39:00 -
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Tanks are tanks. Their big, mean, and should kill relatively easily. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:39:00 -
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You don't need a 1.5 damage mod. Not unless you are terrible. In which case you deserve your fate.
Bit odd they changed the CPU/PG... |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:42:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:Zcorpion Delireuz wrote:And your more or less forced to go armor tanking :/ shield tankign just isnt optimal anymore with the whole armor burning shitzzneck. i took an armor tank down to nothing, one more hit and he would be dead. but he was shooting me, so i backed up and started to come out and shoot him again. his armor was FULL! wtf. idk. i dont get it. i thought he might blow up since he was on fire and already almost dead... i shouldn't of moved, i should've just shot that last shot.... o well.. i've still not lost one of my sagaris'
Was this a few minutes ago on the green map?  |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:46:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:You don't need a 1.5 damage mod. Not unless you are terrible. In which case you deserve your fate.
Bit odd they changed the CPU/PG...
apparently I need one because I called down my stag in one of the rounds I was ACTUALLY able to get into(yes it is possible to get into a round) and tried shooting down a dropship with my railgun I hit the stupid thing 3 times and it didn't blow up and I'm going O.o WTH is that dropship fitted with eventually it got out of my line of fire but really I went from OHK to barly scratching it does the railgun now have a max range or something? |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2012.08.15 17:46:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:You don't need a 1.5 damage mod. Not unless you are terrible. In which case you deserve your fate.
Bit odd they changed the CPU/PG...
Read the description of the maruaders "Improved damage output." Don't need that extra damage to kill anything, but when a soma can be just as tanky, just as deadly, what is the point.
Like in eve, some ships get a damage bonus. Maybe the 50% extra damage was too much, maybe it should be 10% per level HAV trained.
Coming soon to eve online, mining barges with battleship tank.... |
Bob Deorum
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:08:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:You don't need a 1.5 damage mod. Not unless you are terrible. In which case you deserve your fate.
Bit odd they changed the CPU/PG...
hey didn't change the powergind or cpu of the tanks them selfs, they did change some cpu and powergind of modules tho.
The downgrade fo the 30 cpu from the gunnlogi to sargais I pushed off last build as necessary because you got a 1.5 damage mod, but now that it is gone it is not worth 1.2m at all. |
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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:08:00 -
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lol @ all the people that wrote over analytical essays as to why tanks shouldn't be nerfed. Your attempts were in vain. |
Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
112
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:16:00 -
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Bob Deorum wrote:Tony Calif wrote:You don't need a 1.5 damage mod. Not unless you are terrible. In which case you deserve your fate.
Bit odd they changed the CPU/PG... hey didn't change the powergind or cpu of the tanks them selfs, they did change some cpu and powergind of modules tho. The downgrade fo the 30 cpu from the gunnlogi to sargais I pushed off last build as necessary because you got a 1.5 damage mod, but now that it is gone it is not worth 1.2m at all.
The PG/CPU changes were probably meant to deny an HAV pilot the ability to create fits that are too powerful in tank and/or offensive power. No doubt an attempt by CCP to make pilots choose gank or tank.
At least, that's how I see it. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.15 18:27:00 -
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They weren't nerfed as much as anti-vehicle was buffed. I figured av would get more goodies, main reason I said don't nerf yet. There are still more anti-vehicle goodies coming, ew modules. I'm afraid they won't be needed since tanks won't be used much, last build they were over used.
Should be hav general tank, marauder anti-tank specialist, black ops sneaky support. Marauder lost its main advantage, but costs much more and is harder to fit with less cpu, so a gunlogi is as about as good as a sagaris, so why buy the sagaris. Last build the price was so close and the sagaris so much better there was no point in using the hav once marauders were available. The new build is not complete yet, this may change this. |
Volgair
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:01:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Tony Calif wrote:You don't need a 1.5 damage mod. Not unless you are terrible. In which case you deserve your fate.
Bit odd they changed the CPU/PG... Read the description of the maruaders "Improved damage output." Don't need that extra damage to kill anything, but when a soma can be just as tanky, just as deadly, what is the point. Like in eve, some ships get a damage bonus. Maybe the 50% extra damage was too much, maybe it should be 10% per level HAV trained. Coming soon to eve online, mining barges with battleship tank....
Methinks Hulkageddon in 2013 will have very different rules this year. cant wait to see what extra curricular events the dust community comes up with. |
Ima Leet
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:20:00 -
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i think something is up, i lost 2 sagaris to one gunlogi...? |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:24:00 -
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Matchmaking is op. Nerf it. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:26:00 -
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Good. Unless you got the first shot off, and didn't miss. Or maybe they just have a better build. I do think the CPU/PG changes were odd. Unless I'm missing something that all tankers fit... I also think the resistance stackin penalties are working now. But I'm not sure. Need to take out my Sag and get hit by a militia Swarmer. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:26:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:lol @ all the people that wrote over analytical essays as to why tanks shouldn't be nerfed. Your attempts were in vain.
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Laz Ulian Sol
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.15 22:14:00 -
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Looking at Gallente HAV's
Madrugar:
200,000 ISK
Shield: 900
Armor: 2900
PG: 2555
CPU: 210
Surya:
1,227,600 ISK
Shield: 900
Armor: 3480
PG: 2540
CPU: 235
For 1,027,600 more ISK you get
Armor: 580
CPU: 25
For 1,027,600 more ISK you lose
PG: 15
Sounds completely worth it Especially since they removed the damage multiplier. 1.5 Was too much before but completely removed and a price hike for little to no gain is silly. 580 hp could be done on the madrugar with a single armor plate for way cheaper and then you get to keep your PG. Why, would anyone risk so much ISK just for a slight increase in armor and cpu? |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2012.08.15 22:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Dropships the new tank this build. Trust me. No gud pilots have popped up just yet, but boy people gonna be mad. I doubt this, the controls are very fighter like, and swarm launchers swat them out of the sky so easily. In the end the dropship is useless in air to ground or air to air.
With a decent gunner you can cause infantry some massive casualties. But its not often I get one, and your not wrong about the swarms. Can only dodge so many of them and with the normal sized rep.......
Well no second chances like in a hav |
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