Naturi Riclenore
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:39:00 -
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WOW!! Some of you just aren't getting the concept of EVE / DUST 514 and the interactions between them.
We are not playing 2 different games. EVE and DUST 514 are the SAME GAME, just different MODES of gameplay - Space vs Ground Troopers. If an EVE player wants to try and grief a DUST player, let them. The DUST player can then grief them back. AWWW that nice planet you just conquered over there - We're taking it back for OURSELVES and taking control of ALL infrastructure (meaning no more money for you EVE player)
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Mining and resource harvesting are not limited to spaceship-mounted systems. The first capsuleer starbases were dedicated to running automated mining arrays that extracted many useful materials from the moons they orbited. Even now, after starbase capabilities have been expanded to running factories, laboratories and shipyards, many thousands of moons continue to be mined by harvesting systems based on industrial starbases.
Guess who can take over those planetside resources away from EVE players - DUST PEOPLE.
OHH and this:
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The main touchpoint upon the launch of DUST, will be in nulsec, will be in sovereignty, will be in inflicting damage and destruction and death upon your enemies, destroying their infrastructure and their means to survive, either by means or scorched earth or by stealing their installations on the surfaces of planets. There will be more going on on the surfaces of planets. WeGÇÖve introduced mechanics allowing people to manufacture goods on the planets, but planets will play a more pivotal role in sovereignty mechanics further down the line.
UHH OHHH - Looks like DUST people are going to effect SOV.
Yes initially it won't have ALL these features. But as it carries on, you can bet these features will be added into the game. And initially, there won't even be EVE contracts, it will be from an automated system. Eventually, they will start adding in EVE player contracts. CCP is very carefull about making sure stuff works before adding it in. So we're not just lap dogs, we will make a difference. |
Naturi Riclenore
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Posted - 2012.08.14 17:35:00 -
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The first quote is directly off of EVE's website. I quoted it because as DUST mercenaries, we will be taking over these planet resources. At first it will just be for Computer Generated Corps (will see this in Precursor). After that, it will start opening to EVE Player contracts. So as DUST Mercs, we CAN control resources and planets w/o the need for EVE players. It won't be easy, but it will be able to be done.
On top of that, DUST Mercs will be able to own Installation that can fire at Space Ships in EVE (and we watch as the EVE player cries over their 7 Billion ISK ship gets blow to pieces) and EVE players will own the Orbital command units - which is a more precise strike than the MCC orbital strike, which can blow up our 7 Million ISK tanks.
So if we go to take over a planet, the recourses will not belong to us so we will then have to hack them. This is what the attacking team is doing in Skirmish. When the MCC docks, it signifies gaining / losing control over that district.
The second quote is from an interview (will have to find it). But as you also mentioned, it was brought up in the meeting CCP had. Now in the minutes, I see what you were talking about. That's not quite what they were talking about though.
The DUST battle system is being introduced into the FW System in EVE. The problem EVE players were talking about (and this is a stretch as CCP mentioned), what if 500,000 DUST Mercs decided to try and take over SOV? There is no way for EVE players to take over a planet. So DUST Mercs take over ALL the planets, all the resources, etc.. in a system, thus changing SOV overnight (again - extreme situation).
That's why it was suggested for Planet Control and SOV just have them separated and then if you have BOTH you get bonus'. A rebuttable came back though:
Quote:I guess I am less concerned about the whole people taking over overnight. If I am a 0.0 entity and this matters, then I should be willing to pay top dollar to the DUST mercenary corps and hire the very best to defend my space. I don't let random bad people in my alliance in EVE if I want to hold my space, why should I have random bad DUST people in my alliance to help me hold my space?
And CCP AGREED. If you're playing nullsec 0.0 and you're that worried about losing SOV, protect your assests as you would anything else in 0.0 - that's the risk you are taking playing there. Even stated their end goal they would like to do that, but just want to start slow first. It's not out of the question, just start it slower. They felt as though as a DEFAULT position, it was too agressive.
Having to spend $$$$ ISK to get a ship(s) to take over a system and get SOV, then have to pay $$$$ for the planetary resources, then have to pay $$$$$ so that their SOV can be protected by DUST Mercs (forcing them to rely on DUST players) was a bit agressive. But if that's what people want, they will def. consider it.
So it would still effect SOV somehow, probably not just totally taking it away at launch |