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Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 18:36:00 - [1] - Quote "Remember that Beta I talked about earlier? I know, it was a bit in the making but weGÇÖre happy to welcome our friends from the Dust 514 team *into Plus with exclusive access* for the closed beta. Dust 514 is the free to play first person shooter that may change the face of how we battle online in games. Help test the first live direct connection to the extremely popular EVE Online MMO as players on the *main server in DUST 514 and EVE Online* can chat in real time and send in-game mail between games. ItGÇÖs a first in gaming, itGÇÖs free to play when it releases later this fall, and *exclusive access is coming to Plus members* on 8/21. YouGÇÖll have until September 4th to jump in the Beta. Read more about the features available in this Beta in a post from Brandon Laurino, Executive Producer on Dust 514." from [link] WTF am I reading? Did Sony run this copy past anyone at CCP? I can't wait until the DUST 514 Beta is closed to everyone except Plus members, and they can send mail to people on Tranquility!
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 18:56:00 - [2] - Quote The point is it isn't 'exclusive' and the connection isn't with the 'main' server.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 19:02:00 - [3] - Quote Skytt Syysch wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: I can't wait until the DUST 514 Beta is closed to everyone except Plus members Pretty sure this is you not understanding language that is commonly used these days in promotions. There's a reason the all-access passes are called "all-access." They're not going to take away your access for the weekend, they're just letting in a specific set of people. I'm pretty sure this is you being unable to read the subtle sarcasm woven into my comment. I understand the language just fine. Its just wrong. Just because its PR doesn't mean you can say whatever you like. Any Plus member who purchases the Merc Pack on the grounds that they have 'exclusive' access to the title has legal grounds to demand a refund from Sony when that turns out not to be the case, in my country at least, under consumer law. Its not ok to false advertise because its a PR piece.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 19:04:00 - [4] - Quote Skytt Syysch wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: The point is it isn't 'exclusive' and the connection isn't with the 'main' server. And that's excessively nit-picky. Ok, it's not the "main" server, but additional keys are being given exclusively to PS+ members. Not really. Look up exclusive in the dictionary.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 19:14:00 - [5] - Quote Jimbo Boilstaff wrote: Lol they just want PS3 players to come play..... And in a press release noone that its aimed at cares about the minute details The bit i think is interesting though,,, is that twice it mentions the full game releasing later this fall..... hadnt we all reluctantly given up on that dream?? I think everyones too quick to criticise Sony..... They know better than anyone how to sell this game to their users, so CCP would be wise to let them take the lead on this if they so wish.... Remember this is console gaming, so updates arent as easy and builds need to be solid before release. Just thank your lucky stars its not Microsoft, who seemingly wont even let developers update their games for serious flaws (see FEZ),,, Sony would never do this. As a purely Playstation gamer (anyone who plays dust doesnt need to be promoted at,, since you all have keys) the ONLY way to access the beta for FREE is through PS+,,, therefore it is exclusive. Ever get the feeling this forum is like a 24hour news channel??? Never enough news to broadcast so we all get lost in speculation and unnecessary criticism Its only unnecessary if you think bad PR is acceptable. And what would it have taken to avoid the problem? Email it to ANYONE at CCP before posting it. Its not difficult.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 19:22:00 - [6] - Quote Skytt Syysch wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: Skytt Syysch wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: The point is it isn't 'exclusive' and the connection isn't with the 'main' server. And that's excessively nit-picky. Ok, it's not the "main" server, but additional keys are being given exclusively to PS+ members. Not really. Look up exclusive in the dictionary. You should realize that I said "additional keys," as in a way to gain access if you don't already have it. The merc pack still exists, but additional ways to join the beta are coming exclusively to PS+. Happy now? Umallon Macross wrote: And what would it have taken to avoid the problem? Email it to ANYONE at CCP before posting it. Its not difficult. You know, it might have been CCP who wrote it in the first place and gave it to them to use in the post. Happy now? It took you only a few minutes to do for free what the guy who posted the problem material is PAID to do. I'd be happy if so much thought had been put into the original post. CCP isn't usually that sloppy with their PR. Usually. But I'd call them out on it if they did.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 19:50:00 - [7] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: CCP isn't usually that sloppy with their PR. Usually. But I'd call them out on it if they did. One word: Incarna. CCP can **** up PR with the best of them :P I did say 'usually' :P
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 19:54:00 - [8] - Quote counter logic wrote: Stop over reacting, Dust will be connected with SiSi not TQ no big deal, playstation plus members that play EVE will understand this. Members that don't have no idea whats going on anyway so they probably won't care. If you have an all-access pass, you have access to all events. Log on Tuesday and have fun. :) Yup. Complaining about people who lie to try to get people to buy their products is overreacting. I'm sorry if my holding corporations accountable for their public communication is getting in the way of whatever it is that you do.
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.13 20:23:00 - [9] - Quote counter logic wrote: Umallon Macross wrote: counter logic wrote: Stop over reacting, Dust will be connected with SiSi not TQ no big deal, playstation plus members that play EVE will understand this. Members that don't have no idea whats going on anyway so they probably won't care. If you have an all-access pass, you have access to all events. Log on Tuesday and have fun. :) Yup. Complaining about people who lie to try to get people to buy their products is overreacting. I'm sorry if my holding corporations accountable for their public communication is getting in the way of whatever it is that you do. Nothing in that article is a lie... I don't understand how you don't see this. They used the same wording when IGN members got to play their weekend. ALL-ACCESS PASS MEANS ALL ACCESS TO ALL BETA EVENTS., if you have one you are fine. Basically, if you read "exclusive access" to mean that not everyone has it...that is true. It's not just PS+, but it's not everybody either. And they can "Help test the first live direct connection to the extremely popular EVE Online MMO as players on the main server in DUST 514 and EVE Online" I mean, what we're doing is certainly testing for that... The thing about september 4th is probably an offer for playstation plus members to try and enter the beta for an all access pass or maybe they get to play the next few weekends, who knows. Either way, if you have an all access pass...no need to worry. Nothing in the article is a lie, stop trying to make it out to be one. /thread EXCLUSIVE ACCESS
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 10:07:00 - [10] - Quote Aighun wrote: What I got from this thread: It is really high time for a new build... No matter who gets in. We have, as happened last time at around this point in the Beta cycle, run out of things that might actually matter to type about in the forums... Holding corporations accountable for their nonsense is more important than every second thread thats whining about 'my items aren't showing up'

Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.08.14 13:24:00 - [11] - Quote Oops, wrong thread.

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