I can't wait for this game to release !! The beta is getting tired now!!! Same maps and modes!! Needs a new injection!!! Players will not stay with same stuff forever!! And are they aiming for longest beta test ever?? When is there goin to be some sort of release date???

This is a true testing beta, not a beta to try to get people to get the game. You are used to betas where they are using them as marketing and a release date is imminent. This best is one for testing - this is the beta you don't normally get to particiapate in.

Also, the next build is August 23rd. Patience, grasshopper.

But I am wondering when they will say that its the last time and that they will not reset the characters anymore and that the progress that we earn on the characters will not be reset.

Was there a plan like that? Because the most logical thing to happen is a full wipe before release.

I hear you! Just want little more off it at min!

True.

The most i usually see is like some days of early access, but most certainly there will be a wipe uppon release.

The mistake CCP made, was putting up 4? ambush maps and only 1 skirmish map. Nobody plays ambush. Your customer base doesn't care about TDM (for the most part) Most want the "deeper" game modes.

So when you have a beta with effectively 1 map, for a month, ppl get restless.

The full release will result in a wipe of all character data other than name and birthdate of the characters.

The TDM maps are probably out there just for testing, not for playability. Sure they're boring to those of us that are here now and looking for deep gameplay, but we still have to test them so that when the big CoD/BF type fans come - the ones looking for shallow gameplay - they don't have to deal with major bugs. It's all about testing, not just enjoyment.

I would agree, except that if you're going to test... test the maps and game modes that ppl want to play. It's only logical to test the parts of the game that the vast majority of players will be utilizing.

And a vast majority will probably be playing ambush style games... CoD is after all, by far the most popular FPS to date, and I believe that TDM is the most popular game mode in CoD.

Aside from that, you're basically saying "lets test the part that I want, make it great, and everybody else can **** off". Not really the friendliest view point, just sayin.

lol, not sure what point you're trying to prove. But you're wrong. I didn't say that.

In fact you contradict yourself. By supporting CCPs implementation of multiple ambush maps, you are supporting a disproportionate amount of testing on ambush, with minimal testing on skirmish. Exactly what you're saying you don't want.

I'm not saying "do this, because I want it".
The majority of players that will be playing this game, will want a "deeper" FPS. NOT my opinion, look at the numbers. 80-90% of the players play skirmish, NOT ambush. This is a FACT.
Most of the players upon release will not play ambush.

Why? Because if you want TDM, you go to who does it best. ie: play COD, or whatever game. You don't play Dust for TDM, because Dust doesn't do it NEARLY as well as other FPS.