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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:32:00 -
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Since we are bound to see a flood of Eve players coming into the beta that have a PS3, has CCP made any changes to the NDA restriction? Let's remember that this will be a lot of people for CCP to manage should any of them decide to post anything about the beta to the public.
I just want this to be made clear to avoid any problems. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:43:00 -
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@Geirskoegul
That is exactly my point and that needs to be addressed. It would be very disheartening to see new players who never heard of Eve Online, never been reminded of the NDA involved, and then see then post videos on YouTube only to be permabanned because they didn't know what they were getting into.
So the question still remains:
Does the NDA restriction still stand, CCP?
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Let's also not forget the fact that not all beta users visit the forums. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 16:55:00 -
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Mr Funless wrote:When you get your key, you agree to an NDA. When you download dust, you agree to an NDA. When you log in to dust, you agree to an NDA. Don't see the problem.
I know that already. What I'm trying to figure out is whether the NDA has been relaxed or lifted somewhat because of the flood of new players coming in. Also, not all of the 400,000 Eve subscribers have a PS3. So you can expect to see probably more than half of those codes being handed over to non-Eve players who may be more than willing post things about the beta to the public (be it intentionally or out of ignorance of the NDA). |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:00:00 -
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PS: There is also the fact that the new build (the precursor build coming on the 21st) will be directly linked and active on the Eve Online Singularity test server which is accessed by all of the 400,000 players who might take the time to get in on the beta action.
That said, is the NDA relaxed now or will it be relaxed on the 21st? Or will it be permanent until fully complete and launched? |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:03:00 -
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@Tony,
I'm not here to start an argument with you. Take your flame somewhere else. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:07:00 -
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GM Nythanos wrote:People would still have to accept the NDA to take part in the Beta and the NDA's still in place at this time.
Thank you for answering the first question.
Now, what about the Aug 21st build? Will the NDA still be in effect at that time or will it be relaxed due to the direct link to the Singularity Test server? |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:14:00 -
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@Tony
Go start another thread if you want to talk about that because I don't want my thread to be hijacked by an unrelated topic. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:17:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:GM Nythanos wrote:People would still have to accept the NDA to take part in the Beta and the NDA's still in place at this time. Thank you for answering the first question. Now, what about the Aug 21st build? Will the NDA still be in effect at that time or will it be relaxed due to the direct link to the Singularity Test server?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.09 17:32:00 -
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GM Nythanos wrote:The NDA would be in effect until an announcement is made saying that it's being lifted. I don't have a date to offer for when that may be, though.
Thanks again. Let us know as soon as you get the word. |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.10 13:19:00 -
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@Bones1182
Knowing CCP on a personal level after nearly 5 years of playing their game, participating in the Council of Stellar Management Elections, communicating with them directly, following them on Twitter and G+, etc., I can safely state that CCP is more than likely not going to waste their time suing people if the NDA is breached. From a business point of view, it just makes more sense to ban then (either through their account or through the hardware) rather than to sue them because of the diverse and conflicting laws that exist around the world. That and the fact that CCP is in Iceland with their server located in England that is filled with players from at least 4 continents. I have studied law to some degree and I can say that the legalities here in regards to suing make lawsuits practically pointless*.
======HOWEVER========
This thread is not about the legalities of lawsuit in an international sense and I don't want this thread to stray into such a complex topic in which no one can find an agreement in. This topic is about whether or not if CCP keeps the NDA in effect once the closed beta is linked to a public test server in which over 400,000 subscribers can access all at once. If so, how are they going to handle it?
Let's take into account the fact that not all of the 400,000 subscribers have a PS3. So they will either give away the beta code to someone they know has a PS3 and internet connection or they will just let it sit there in their Account Management Voucher until it expires on the year 2020. Not only that, most of those codes may end up in the hands of people who are more than willing to violate the NDA simply on the grounds that it is so easy to access the beta at that point.
But as GM Nythanos pointed out, they will let us know when the NDA gets lifted. So until then, we're just speculating here.
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* - This is only under the situation presented by the NDA. Other things like patents, crime, etc. are an entirely different beast. |
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.08.10 13:54:00 -
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@Bones1182
I agree.
Perhaps CCP might lift the NDA on August 21st just for the sake of reducing headaches. Besides, judging from the Precursor Patch Notes below, it looks like the game will be solid enough for a more open beta.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30002&find=unread
But I'm just speculating with some wishful thinking. But who knows? |
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