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Sojuro Ryo wrote:

Rorek IronBlood wrote:

Sojuro Ryo wrote:

Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval?

Um. Because, this is Sony's network, and for any game to release "patches" or updates (minus live updates) you need to go through Sony, and get their approval. It's politics. This is also true for Nintendo, and Microsoft's XBL. Is it really hard to understand? What you want to know is what did the contract or agreement state between CCP and Sony on rights, ownership, and power of approval. As I pointed out though it's always politics, and about control.

Just like when Sony introduced "trophies" they made it clear that every game after a certain date would have to have "trophy" support. It was mandatory. Do not ask me why, but it was. Every publisher, and company has their control issues, or demands. Some more then others. Nintendo has a limit on download sizes; which they marginally increased recently. It's very fickle actually and does not make for wanting developers to publish their content on Nintendo's network. Microsoft actually has their own demands, but I cannot remember all of them. It's not just achievments either.

Anyway you get the point. They all do it.

Touchy aren't we. Was just asking a question. Might wanna lay off the meth Roll

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michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.08.04 21:37:00 - [1] - Quote hey is there any conformation of the new build really coming out next weekend. Im not asking for details about it or anything just a yes to the build.
Bunny dee Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.08.04 21:44:00 - [2] - Quote There is..... Nothing atm. At least that I know of. I do however expect to see a sticky post at the top of the forums when news comes out. Till then, everyone keep on guessing!
Matthew 514 13	Posted - 2012.08.04 21:46:00 - [3] - Quote SoonTM
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.08.04 21:46:00 - [4] - Quote lol yeah. i just want to see what they have done in the last month cause it will show what ccp can do and how far the can go.
Lost Limb Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.08.04 21:58:00 - [5] - Quote I likely wont play until the new build for the same reason. I get the point, show me something more, and then I'll start serving as cannon fodder again lol.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.04 22:11:00 - [6] - Quote Someone posted up a thread about the conversation, and from what the developers are saying it's been forwarded to Sony, and is not going through Sony's Q&A and submission. So as soon (no pun intended) as Sony approves the build and update we are good to go. Meaning this coming week, or the next for certain most likely.
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.08.04 22:14:00 - [7] - Quote Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval?
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.04 22:24:00 - [8] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval? Um. Because, this is Sony's network, and for any game to release "patches" or updates (minus live updates) you need to go through Sony, and get their approval. It's politics. This is also true for Nintendo, and Microsoft's XBL. Is it really hard to understand? What you want to know is what did the contract or agreement state between CCP and Sony on rights, ownership, and power of approval. As I pointed out though it's always politics, and about control. Just like when Sony introduced "trophies" they made it clear that every game after a certain date would have to have "trophy" support. It was mandatory. Do not ask me why, but it was. Every publisher, and company has their control issues, or demands. Some more then others. Nintendo has a limit on download sizes; which they marginally increased recently. It's very fickle actually and does not make for wanting developers to publish their content on Nintendo's network. Microsoft actually has their own demands, but I cannot remember all of them. It's not just achievments either. Anyway you get the point. They all do it.
Willpv3 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2012.08.04 22:25:00 - [9] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: or the next for certain most likely. lol Reminds me of the "Bad Boys" quote "My **** always works sometimes!" love it.
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.08.04 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval? Um. Because, this is Sony's network, and for any game to release "patches" or updates (minus live updates) you need to go through Sony, and get their approval. It's politics. This is also true for Nintendo, and Microsoft's XBL. Is it really hard to understand? What you want to know is what did the contract or agreement state between CCP and Sony on rights, ownership, and power of approval. As I pointed out though it's always politics, and about control. Just like when Sony introduced "trophies" they made it clear that every game after a certain date would have to have "trophy" support. It was mandatory. Do not ask me why, but it was. Every publisher, and company has their control issues, or demands. Some more then others. Nintendo has a limit on download sizes; which they marginally increased recently. It's very fickle actually and does not make for wanting developers to publish their content on Nintendo's network. Microsoft actually has their own demands, but I cannot remember all of them. It's not just achievments either. Anyway you get the point. They all do it. Touchy aren't we. Was just asking a question. Might wanna lay off the meth .

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.08.04 22:39:00 - [11] - Quote Sony also bent over backwards on not charging so much on patch deployments, allowing third party apps such as eve voice and connecting to outside servers. I just wished they would expedite the service.
Willpv3 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2012.08.04 23:23:00 - [12] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Touchy aren't we. Was just asking a question. Might wanna lay off the meth . ...and he was just answering your question. Very well I might add.
Arceus Evoxazon Hikahotaru 119	Posted - 2012.08.04 23:25:00 - [13] - Quote Got some inside info on the next build. Here it is: NERF TM
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.08.05 00:32:00 - [14] - Quote Arceus Evoxazon wrote: Got some inside info on the next build. Here it is: NERF TM If you think remote explosives do not need a nerf, then you must be a) High, near overdose on drugs. b) Depressed, abused at home. c) Remote Explosive Abuser
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.05 00:41:00 - [15] - Quote Ha-ha.. Nerf the "TM" (Trademark) what a riot, but so true. It's everywhere and so overpowering! As for RE's (Remote Explosives) -- All I will say is that need some tweeking, and that is true just as much as it is people are abusing them entirely.
Ignatius Crumwald Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2012.08.05 00:48:00 - [16] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval? Um. Because, this is Sony's network, and for any game to release "patches" or updates (minus live updates) you need to go through Sony, and get their approval. It's politics. This is also true for Nintendo, and Microsoft's XBL. Is it really hard to understand? What you want to know is what did the contract or agreement state between CCP and Sony on rights, ownership, and power of approval. As I pointed out though it's always politics, and about control. Just like when Sony introduced "trophies" they made it clear that every game after a certain date would have to have "trophy" support. It was mandatory. Do not ask me why, but it was. Every publisher, and company has their control issues, or demands. Some more then others. Nintendo has a limit on download sizes; which they marginally increased recently. It's very fickle actually and does not make for wanting developers to publish their content on Nintendo's network. Microsoft actually has their own demands, but I cannot remember all of them. It's not just achievments either. Anyway you get the point. They all do it. Yeah, basically they charge a small fortune to have each patch "certified" to make sure it meets their network guidelines as a part of whatever the licensing agreement is, I'm not really sure whether there is actually any play testing involved at all.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.08.05 00:57:00 - [17] - Quote Arceus Evoxazon wrote: Got some inside info on the next build. Here it is: NERF TM you can't nerf something in an unreleased game sorry. Lots of stuff is placeholders
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.08.05 00:58:00 - [18] - Quote Well actually most people do not even know that Sony actually charges developers, and other publishers to host their content on PSN (PlayStation Network). Which is amazing really, but it's business I suppose. As for patches, or updates not hosted on PSN I do not believe there is a charge, but it does have to meet Sony's approval, and qualifications. It's more about the network then anything I'm sure. It has to meet a certain standard, but also cannot compromise the security, or stablity of said network. Which is both good for Sony and the dev/publisher. What else is stated though in those contracts, or agreements I am unsure of. I know that certain developers and their contracts with their publisher can be both frivolous, and harmful though. OBSIDIAN is one poor developer whom is constantly shafted all the time due to their binding agreements. Infact the last was with Bethesda, and Fallout: New Vegas. They apparently failed to receive a high enough score from Metacritic (of all places) to obtain their bonus. Which is quite sad if you ask me. Having a site on the internet and random people, or loaded variables dictate whether or not you obtain a bonus. Just sad, but in the end as I pointed out it's politics.
Carilito Algintal Core Gallente Federation 345	Posted - 2012.08.05 01:13:00 - [19] - Quote michael McG wrote: hey is there any conformation of the new build really coming out next weekend. Im not asking for details about it or anything just a yes to the build. They wont tell us because a good portion of us will play less or not at all until the date of the build comes out. The mystery keeps us playing.
Maken Tosch 263	Posted - 2012.08.05 01:31:00 - [20] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval? Um. Because, this is Sony's network, and for any game to release "patches" or updates (minus live updates) you need to go through Sony, and get their approval. It's politics. This is also true for Nintendo, and Microsoft's XBL. Is it really hard to understand? What you want to know is what did the contract or agreement state between CCP and Sony on rights, ownership, and power of approval. As I pointed out though it's always politics, and about control. Just like when Sony introduced "trophies" they made it clear that every game after a certain date would have to have "trophy" support. It was mandatory. Do not ask me why, but it was. Every publisher, and company has their control issues, or demands. Some more then others. Nintendo has a limit on download sizes; which they marginally increased recently. It's very fickle actually and does not make for wanting developers to publish their content on Nintendo's network. Microsoft actually has their own demands, but I cannot remember all of them. It's not just achievments either. Anyway you get the point. They all do it. Touchy aren't we. Was just asking a question. Might wanna lay off the meth . You asked, he answered. You never said how you wanted the answer.

Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.05 01:41:00 - [21] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Touchy aren't we. Was just asking a question. Might wanna lay off the meth . Touchy aren't we. Was just answering a question. Might wanna lay off the meth .
Nexus Dragoon 514 BetaMax. 78	Posted - 2012.08.05 02:16:00 - [22] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: Rorek IronBlood wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: Is it stated some where why CCP has to have Sony's approval? Um. Because, this is Sony's network, and for any game to release "patches" or updates (minus live updates) you need to go through Sony, and get their approval. It's politics. This is also true for Nintendo, and Microsoft's XBL. Is it really hard to understand? What you want to know is what did the contract or agreement state between CCP and Sony on rights, ownership, and power of approval. As I pointed out though it's always politics, and about control. Just like when Sony introduced "trophies" they made it clear that every game after a certain date would have to have "trophy" support. It was mandatory. Do not ask me why, but it was. Every publisher, and company has their control issues, or demands. Some more then others. Nintendo has a limit on download sizes; which they marginally increased recently. It's very fickle actually and does not make for wanting developers to publish their content on Nintendo's network. Microsoft actually has their own demands, but I cannot remember all of them. It's not just achievments either. Anyway you get the point. They all do it. Touchy aren't we. Was just asking a question. Might wanna lay off the meth . your comment is a bit uncalled for you got your answer. you need to lay off the meth your starting to think everyone else is on it.


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