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GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:46:00 -
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im tired of the "future" speculation from people that dont represent the company....i dont care how much EVE knowledge you have this is DUST514, on a console. people making predictions about the future that are not credible to this game or their own credit to make such a statement. for you EVE people SHUT THE H E L L UP! Please stop talking about battles that dont exist yet its bad enough we have to torture ourselves with ccps double standard claims and failures of their own. the game will release when it does and when ccp feels the need to announce major information they will. nobody is credible other than the posts marked as such by ccp....cant wait to see what feedback this presents. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:19:00 -
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if one more person complains about lag which is a known issue im going to puke :) we are on test servers not production servers... |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:48:00 -
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like to share your appreciation in this matter! |
Iceyburnz
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:59:00 -
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:im tired of the "future" speculation from people that dont represent the company....i dont care how much EVE knowledge you have this is DUST514, on a console. people making predictions about the future that are not credible to this game or their own credit to make such a statement. for you EVE people SHUT THE H E L L UP! Please stop talking about battles that dont exist yet its bad enough we have to torture ourselves with ccps double standard claims and failures of their own. the game will release when it does and when ccp feels the need to announce major information. nobody is credible other than the posts marked as such by ccp....cant wait to see what feedback this presents.
You want to know why we know everything, as Eve players?
Because of
this (general info),
this (Procedural map generation),
this (market) and
this (Its long the dust part is from 1hr 19 mins onwards).
Hope this helps. Also cut the attitude you look like a tool. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:04:00 -
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Iceyburnz wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:im tired of the "future" speculation from people that dont represent the company....i dont care how much EVE knowledge you have this is DUST514, on a console. people making predictions about the future that are not credible to this game or their own credit to make such a statement. for you EVE people SHUT THE H E L L UP! Please stop talking about battles that dont exist yet its bad enough we have to torture ourselves with ccps double standard claims and failures of their own. the game will release when it does and when ccp feels the need to announce major information. nobody is credible other than the posts marked as such by ccp....cant wait to see what feedback this presents. You want to know why we know everything, as Eve players? Because of this (general info), this (Procedural map generation), this (market) and this (Its long the dust part is from 1hr 19 mins onwards). Hope this helps. Also cut the attitude you look like a tool.
Lolz nice one. Tho somtimes us eve players do think we know what CCP will do next we aint right half the time. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:07:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Iceyburnz wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:im tired of the "future" speculation from people that dont represent the company....i dont care how much EVE knowledge you have this is DUST514, on a console. people making predictions about the future that are not credible to this game or their own credit to make such a statement. for you EVE people SHUT THE H E L L UP! Please stop talking about battles that dont exist yet its bad enough we have to torture ourselves with ccps double standard claims and failures of their own. the game will release when it does and when ccp feels the need to announce major information. nobody is credible other than the posts marked as such by ccp....cant wait to see what feedback this presents. You want to know why we know everything, as Eve players? Because of this (general info), this (Procedural map generation), this (market) and this (Its long the dust part is from 1hr 19 mins onwards). Hope this helps. Also cut the attitude you look like a tool. Lolz nice one. Tho somtimes us eve players do think we know what CCP will do next we aint right half the time. that really my only true point, nobody does except tier 1 devs and directing devs, so when people post like that troll just did it makes it look worse the "know it all" attitude is kind of a drag in the EVE community and as you can see kinda annoying from previous "EVE player". |
Iceyburnz
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:09:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Lolz nice one. Tho somtimes us eve players do think we know what CCP will do next we aint right half the time.
Well this is CCP, they keep their hand close to their chest. It's often hard not to fashion a helmet from tinfoil where they are concerned. That being said, they often change their minds, they are human after all, I guess, in game design you have to balance with whats cool, with whats doable. FPS are popular because they are fun and also they are fairly easy to make, considering the amount of middle ware support they get. FPS is not making an easy FPS, they are making something almost entirely new. Not to mention they took and engine that was designed for level generation and pvp and grew a terrain generator out of it. |
Tak Kak
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:14:00 -
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The eve community is as part of the game as you are apart of it, I don't play Eve but I quote a saying I heard in the last game build.... "We arn't walking into your universe, you are walking into ours"... They will have some saying, firstly they will mold dust if the Eve playerbase finds that it is impeding to much into their universe but generally we (dust soldiers) are up for just shooting at each other in general. Remember this games selling point is it's connection to the eve universe, don't try to degrade that and get along with your neighbors in civil conversations about its direction. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:20:00 -
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Tak Kak wrote:The eve community is as part of the game as you are apart of it, I don't play Eve but I quote a saying I heard in the last game build.... "We arn't walking into your universe, you are walking into ours"... They will have some saying, firstly they will mold dust if the Eve playerbase finds that it is impeding to much into their universe but generally we (dust soldiers) are up for just shooting at each other in general. Remember this games selling point is it's connection to the eve universe, don't try to degrade that and get along with your neighbors in civil conversations about its direction. i disagree, respectfully of course, i see your point however eve has no pull on what the console does thats like saying wal-mart and sams club are merging to become two entities but sams club calls all the shots for wal-marts pricing...kinda silly, with that being said eve players are not as influential as they like to believe is my point :) |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:25:00 -
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Greasy, we only present information given to us by CCP at fanfest, or E3, or any presentation given by them. There's already a lot of media on the game on youtube, the information's all there.
We do speculate, but there's a lot of language in that speculation that shows we're only guessing.
Oh, and DUST and EVE are in the same universe. Makes sense to have things consistent, yeah? So if it's in EVE, and relevant to DUST, it'll probably be in DUST. Funny, that, huh? |
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:29:00 -
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:im tired of the "future" speculation from people that dont represent the company....i dont care how much EVE knowledge you have this is DUST514, on a console. people making predictions about the future that are not credible to this game or their own credit to make such a statement. for you EVE people SHUT THE H E L L UP! Please stop talking about battles that dont exist yet its bad enough we have to torture ourselves with ccps double standard claims and failures of their own. the game will release when it does and when ccp feels the need to announce major information they will. nobody is credible other than the posts marked as such by ccp....cant wait to see what feedback this presents.
U Mad bro?
And EVE pilots, feel free to voice your experiences. DUST and EVE are living in the same universe as EVE, and there will be crossovers a lot of aspects of the game. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:31:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Greasy, we only present information given to us by CCP at fanfest, or E3, or any presentation given by them. There's already a lot of media on the game on youtube, the information's all there.
We do speculate, but there's a lot of language in that speculation that shows we're only guessing.
Oh, and DUST and EVE are in the same universe. Makes sense to have things consistent, yeah? So if it's in EVE, and relevant to DUST, it'll probably be in DUST. Funny, that, huh? ummmmm....again the arrogance and sarcasm is for the birds, funny how eve players always think they know what dust is bringing out and in fact you tools know nothing, it may be the same universe there highspeed not the same game not even close to the same combat sequence again your statement is full of holes and the original feedback on this thread was to point out that eve doesnt run dust which even you seem to believe...im fully aware of e3 and the negative comments have come from butt hurt eve players. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:33:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:im tired of the "future" speculation from people that dont represent the company....i dont care how much EVE knowledge you have this is DUST514, on a console. people making predictions about the future that are not credible to this game or their own credit to make such a statement. for you EVE people SHUT THE H E L L UP! Please stop talking about battles that dont exist yet its bad enough we have to torture ourselves with ccps double standard claims and failures of their own. the game will release when it does and when ccp feels the need to announce major information they will. nobody is credible other than the posts marked as such by ccp....cant wait to see what feedback this presents. U Mad bro? And EVE pilots, feel free to voice your experiences. DUST and EVE are living in the same universe as EVE, and there will be crossovers a lot of aspects of the game. troll, again same universe nowhere close to the same game in its operations of game play... |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:37:00 -
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It's simply because we EvE-players are, on average, 2x or maybe it's 3x the age of you kids playing console shooters.
So naturally we know hell a lot more about things then you do, also because we play both EvE and dust we know what sort of interaction with EvE would be an utter fail and what might actually work. Also since most Eve players are gamers since 80's that means we have played it all and we were there when it all began with wolfenstein 3D or more precisely with quake since it was the first MP shooter with "true 3d" environment.
So yes we do know more about gaming then you console kiddies ever will and that's a fact; that you have ++ber fragrate in Ps3 CoD that was released last year doesn't really carry any weight with us what so ever.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:37:00 -
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Some of us have even gone as far as reading CSM summit minutes relating to CCP's DUST plans, so who are you to say we don't know what we say we know of CCP's tentative plans for the game?
Hell, we even have years of firsthand experience with CCP fuckups on which to make predictions of how they might stumble on their way to completing their vision.
Know-it-alls are annoying pricks in most cases, but when they actually know it all they're insufferable. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:38:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:It's simply because we EvE-players are, on average, 2x or maybe it's 3x the age of you kids playing console shooters.
So naturally we know hell a lot more about things then you do, also because we play both EvE and dust we know what sort of interaction with EvE would be an utter fail and what might actually work. Also since most Eve players are gamers since 80's that means we have played it all and we were there when it all began with wolfenstein 3D or more precisely with quake since it was the first MP shooter with "true 3d" environment.
So yes we do know more about gaming then you console kiddies ever will and that's a fact; that you have ++ber fragrate in Ps3 CoD that was released last year doesn't really carry any weight with us what so ever.
again your arrogance makes you all look ridiculous, case and point. you have no idea what gaming experience these players have lol just another wild estimate from your friendly EVE troll as usual. and trying to support it with a brief history of your experience lol. take notes everyone hes one of the first to be PWNED by MAG corps |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:40:00 -
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Its like ...tanks are made or stuff and eve has stuff so... nope donGÇÖt know where IGÇÖm going with this but you lot should all have a short walk in a forest and listen to some Zen tunes or something and calm your turbulent waters. Be at peace my friends the time for war is thur-monday. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:42:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Some of us have even gone as far as reading CSM summit minutes relating to CCP's DUST plans, so who are you to say we don't know what we say we know of CCP's tentative plans for the game?
Hell, we even have years of firsthand experience with CCP fuckups on which to make predictions of how they might stumble on their way to completing their vision.
Know-it-alls are annoying pricks in most cases, but when they actually know it all they're insufferable. i concur, im not arguing intended content by ccp im arguing that EVE players are already talking about battle sequences as if they are in effect right now....their silly outlandish claims are as you said unbearable. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:42:00 -
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:ummmmm....again the arrogance and sarcasm is for the birds, funny how eve players always think they know what dust is bringing out and in fact you tools know nothing, it may be the same universe there highspeed not the same game not even close to the same combat sequence again your statement is full of holes and the original feedback on this thread was to point out that eve doesnt run dust which even you seem to believe...im fully aware of e3 and the negative comments have come from butt hurt eve players.
Giggle, even though I know I'm feeding you, I'm still amused by replying.
EVE runs DUST. They pay for merc contracts, and therefore, merc dropsuits, vehicles, installations, etc. DUST would be nothing without EVE. It's a good game, but the main selling point is its integration with the EVE universe.
Also, how is it arrogance to say that I've heard CCP devs say that this will be in the game, or is planned to be in the game, so it probably will? And no, that wasn't sarcasm, or even rhetoric. I want a genuine answer as to how that's either arrogance, sarcasm or rhetoric.
Yes, I know EVE and DUST aren't the same game, but if you have a tank which can shoot down a battleship, when an orbital bombardment from a destroyer can destroy a tank... Well. That's not very logical, is it? |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:43:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Its like ...tanks are made or stuff and eve has stuff so... nope donGÇÖt know where IGÇÖm going with this but you lot should all have a short walk in a forest and listen to some Zen tunes or something and calm your turbulent waters. Be at peace my friends the time for war is thur-monday. im happy :)
trolls = >:( |
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:44:00 -
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Laheon wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:ummmmm....again the arrogance and sarcasm is for the birds, funny how eve players always think they know what dust is bringing out and in fact you tools know nothing, it may be the same universe there highspeed not the same game not even close to the same combat sequence again your statement is full of holes and the original feedback on this thread was to point out that eve doesnt run dust which even you seem to believe...im fully aware of e3 and the negative comments have come from butt hurt eve players. Giggle, even though I know I'm feeding you, I'm still amused by replying. EVE runs DUST. They pay for merc contracts, and therefore, merc dropsuits, vehicles, installations, etc. DUST would be nothing without EVE. It's a good game, but the main selling point is its integration with the EVE universe. Also, how is it arrogance to say that I've heard CCP devs say that this will be in the game, or is planned to be in the game, so it probably will? And no, that wasn't sarcasm, or even rhetoric. I want a genuine answer as to how that's either arrogance, sarcasm or rhetoric. Yes, I know EVE and DUST aren't the same game, but if you have a tank which can shoot down a battleship, when an orbital bombardment from a destroyer can destroy a tank... Well. That's not very logical, is it? you cant be arrogant about something eve people cant prove and or physically take part in....they intend for the release to be that way but at the moment again the thread is about people running at the mouth acting as if they already know what would happen in battle...and making predictions based on ridiculous assumptions...and then standing behind the prediction in their own denial... |
vermacht Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:46:00 -
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Older ganers in general act like self entitled know it alls that generally know nothing other than history |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:48:00 -
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GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:you cant be arrogant about something eve people cant prove and or physically take part in....they intend for the release to be that way but at the moment again the thread is about people running at the mouth acting as if they already know what would happen in battle...
What do you mean by that? I've never encountered anyone who has said "this will play out that way, or that way". Your original post seemed to suggest that EVE players seemed to know better what features were coming into the game than other players.
We have information that CCP wants to extend a map to the size of an entire planet, some day. We have information that they want to include other planet types. We have information that they want to bring in a lot more features, such as laser rifles. How do we have this information? CCP presentations on the matter. We get our information from CCP and present it as such, we don't speculate and present it as fact. |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:49:00 -
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Laheon wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:you cant be arrogant about something eve people cant prove and or physically take part in....they intend for the release to be that way but at the moment again the thread is about people running at the mouth acting as if they already know what would happen in battle... What do you mean by that? I've never encountered anyone who has said "this will play out that way, or that way". Your original post seemed to suggest that EVE players seemed to know better what features were coming into the game than other players. We have information that CCP wants to extend a map to the size of an entire planet, some day. We have information that they want to include other planet types. We have information that they want to bring in a lot more features, such as laser rifles. How do we have this information? CCP presentations on the matter. We get our information from CCP and present it as such, we don't speculate and present it as fact. ive been in the beta since build 2, ive come across my fair share of know it alls from eve :( ingame on mic and forums :( Eve players seem to have a generally low attitude towards the people who are going to be doing all the work for them soon :) |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:51:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Older ganers in general act like self entitled know it alls that generally know nothing other than history +1 :P
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Devil Biff
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:51:00 -
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1st and formost what most capsulers r afraid of, and what I am embracing, is that dust will change New Eden. That is why many on the capsuler side, and the EVE forums, have alot of hatred towards dust. I am drawing the line in the sand here; we are all playing EVE. Just some are mercs and some are capsulers.
And yes, I've been a capsuler for a very long time. And I have no idea what ccp is up to or want to venture as to what it will be. It gives me a headache. But I do know this: it will be completely different than anything else we have seen in New Eden.
Let me hold an isk! |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:52:00 -
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Devil Biff wrote:1st and formost what most capsulers r afraid of, and what I am embracing, is that dust will change New Eden. That is why many on the capsuler side, and the EVE forums, have alot of hatred towards dust. I am drawing the line in the sand here; we are all playing EVE. Just some are mercs and some are capsulers.
And yes, I've been a capsuler for a very long time. And I have no idea what ccp is up to or want to venture as to what it will be. It gives me a headache. But I do know this: it will be completely different than anything else we have seen in New Eden.
Let me hold an isk! finally a comment i can stand behind! you get a like for finally capturing my original intent with the thread! |
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