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Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.01 01:57:00 - [1] - Quote Should provide some good entertainment. Ringers will want to get in on taking huge contracts/planets. Especially when bigger game modes are implemented and people are needed for large corp battles. This is gonna be good. I'm going dip my cookies in your tears. That's right, ringers is no longer an excuse. I'm looking at you the dark flock, BHD, PHI. EDIT-For anyone that doesn't know what a ringer is. Its someone who join s corp just for a corp battle in exchange for isk/contracts.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.08.01 01:58:00 - [2] - Quote Don't cover yourself up sir. STB had a very large share of ringers themselves. Edit: were these people named because they had ringers or they complained
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:00:00 - [3] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Don't cover yourself up sir. STB had a very large share of ringers themselves. I called out the clans that cried about ringers. Not the clans thats used ringers. I could care less about ringers considering I did it quite a bit back in the day. I'm not a member of STB anymore btw. I still play with them sometimes though.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:01:00 - [4] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Don't cover yourself up sir. STB had a very large share of ringers themselves. I called out the clans that cried about ringers. Not the clans thats used ringers. I could care less about ringers considering I did it quite a bit back in the day. as did I i thought you were crying about ringing... my apologies
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:04:00 - [5] - Quote Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Don't cover yourself up sir. STB had a very large share of ringers themselves. I called out the clans that cried about ringers. Not the clans thats used ringers. I could care less about ringers considering I did it quite a bit back in the day. as did I i thought you were crying about ringing Ringers always made clan battles more competitive. I was saying that some corps will hire ringers and it will be legit in dust. No longer an excuse.
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:06:00 - [6] - Quote
You Knova 0	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:07:00 - [7] - Quote I ring'ed for quite a few clan battles and see nothing wrong with it, but the clans you called out had legit complaints. If you sign up for Clan X vs. Clan Z and get Clan X vs. Clan Z (the parts of regular Clan Z members will be played by MAG most prolific killers in Clan Z tags) then you're not getting what you signed up for.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:08:00 - [8] - Quote I haven't thought about ringers yet. Now thinking about it, ringing might be something I want to do. Corps would pay very nicely. Also, what was with that uniform requirement thing. It scared away all the grims over hours players.
ReGnUm DEl Doomheim 622	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:08:00 - [9] - Quote 20 000 000 isk... you got yourself a ringer
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:10:00 - [10] - Quote ReGnUm DEl wrote: 20 000 000 isk... you got yourself a ringer im pretty sure we'll be seeing bigger numbers than that bud.... market is getting a big overhaul next build

MUDMASTEI2 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 135	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:13:00 - [11] - Quote This game won't even be competitive until like Dec. 2013 when nobody is playing it anymore.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:14:00 - [12] - Quote You Knova wrote: I ring'ed for quite a few clan battles and see nothing wrong with it, but the clans you called out had legit complaints. If you sign up for Clan X vs. Clan Z and get Clan X vs. Clan Z (the parts of regular Clan Z members will be played by MAG most prolific killers in Clan Z tags) then you're not getting what you signed up for. Clan X was tired of playing randoms and they want competition. Clan X q^ and gets the competition they were looking for and then some. Clan X cries about ringers. I have been in those clan battles playing for the X clan. You just have to suck it up, buckle down, and enjoy the laggy ride. Its still more fun/challenging then playing randoms tbh. For some people it was kind of an honor thing I guess.
ReGnUm DEl Doomheim 622	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:14:00 - [13] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: ReGnUm DEl wrote: 20 000 000 isk... you got yourself a ringer im pretty sure we'll be seeing bigger numbers than that bud.... market is getting a big overhaul next build Was I talking to you scrub
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:16:00 - [14] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: You Knova wrote: I ring'ed for quite a few clan battles and see nothing wrong with it, but the clans you called out had legit complaints. If you sign up for Clan X vs. Clan Z and get Clan X vs. Clan Z (the parts of regular Clan Z members will be played by MAG most prolific killers in Clan Z tags) then you're not getting what you signed up for. Clan X was tired of playing randoms and they want competition. Clan X q^ and gets the competition they were looking for and then some. Clan X cries about ringers. I have been in those clan battles playing for the X clan. You just have to suck it up, buckle down, and enjoy the laggy ride. Its still more fun/challenging then playing randoms tbh. Q^ vs LoL was great
ReGnUm DEl Doomheim 622	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:16:00 - [15] - Quote MUDMASTEI2 wrote: This game won't even be competitive until like Dec. 2013 when nobody is playing it anymore. RUN MUD RUN the FanBOYS are coming!!!!!!!!
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:17:00 - [16] - Quote ReGnUm DEl wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: ReGnUm DEl wrote: 20 000 000 isk... you got yourself a ringer im pretty sure we'll be seeing bigger numbers than that bud.... market is getting a big overhaul next build Was I talking to you scrub you make me lol
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:21:00 - [17] - Quote PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: You Knova wrote: I ring'ed for quite a few clan battles and see nothing wrong with it, but the clans you called out had legit complaints. If you sign up for Clan X vs. Clan Z and get Clan X vs. Clan Z (the parts of regular Clan Z members will be played by MAG most prolific killers in Clan Z tags) then you're not getting what you signed up for. Clan X was tired of playing randoms and they want competition. Clan X q^ and gets the competition they were looking for and then some. Clan X cries about ringers. I have been in those clan battles playing for the X clan. You just have to suck it up, buckle down, and enjoy the laggy ride. Its still more fun/challenging then playing randoms tbh. Q^ vs LoL was great All those tamsens. It was a blast. Sucks the draft didn't last long though. We had some crazy games.
MUDMASTEI2 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 135	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:27:00 - [18] - Quote ReGnUm DEl wrote: MUDMASTEI2 wrote: This game won't even be competitive until like Dec. 2013 when nobody is playing it anymore. RUN MUD RUN the FanBOYS are coming!!!!!!!! Truth hurts, I'm ready for them.
WT Sherman Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 63	Posted - 2012.08.01 02:29:00 - [19] - Quote You would have to play under their corp tag, meaning join their corp even if for a set period of time. Your current avatar has your corp and faction listed for public viewing and if Dust is like EVE, you will be able to look up a players current corp and his employment history. Yes, there will be ringers and spy's which will lead to more vetting before someone is allowed into a corp once the game goes public. Better to train your own killers and spec ops guys than to hire them. Might take your 20 mill and sell you out for a bill during the alliance tournament. After the first 6 months to a year you won't be playing randoms that much and there will be plenty of competition for the contracts. One thing I wish hadn't happened so soon is the formation of Dust alliances. Would rather have had "...open war, without truce or herald..."
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.08.01 03:31:00 - [20] - Quote The EVE players that contract out nothing but ringers are going to be the ones running this game.

William HBonney Imperfects Negative-Feedback 318	Posted - 2012.08.01 03:42:00 - [21] - Quote Not sure how Corp battles will work. As far as I can tell solo artists don't get much love. They are not clan wars. But who knows..the idea is sound and speculation is fun.
Regis Mark V 249	Posted - 2012.08.01 03:44:00 - [22] - Quote Meh Valor Flock was the best TBQH!
Harken Torkal Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2012.08.01 05:26:00 - [23] - Quote So in a game about guns for hire, there is scorn directed at people who lease themselves out to the highest payer?
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2012.08.01 06:24:00 - [24] - Quote [)B(] vs. [TEK], best clan battle ever apparantly.
testguy242 44	Posted - 2012.08.01 06:37:00 - [25] - Quote WTF is a "ringer". From context it sounds like someone who helps you for money? If so, what is the problem with this?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.08.01 06:42:00 - [26] - Quote testguy242 wrote: WTF is a "ringer". From context it sounds like someone who helps you for money? If so, what is the problem with this? A lot of people think it's a legit complaint in most FPS clan battles. The point of this thread is to say that in DUST, that won't be a valid argument. Nothing new to see, carry on.
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.08.01 06:44:00 - [27] - Quote eve corps will weed out these ringers as you call them. questions get asked if your employment history is full. they want to know why they been in so many corps, they are normaly turned down by good recruitment officers. weeded out via security checks. i do not see them being a problem to be honest , just more bodys to pewpew on the other hand these FPS clans will learn the hard way. corps are different to a clan. what works in one type of game will not work in another. clans will soon be called corps / alliances clan hog roast will turn into Corp bacon sandwich
testguy242 44	Posted - 2012.08.01 06:50:00 - [28] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Not sure how Corp battles will work. As far as I can tell solo artists don't get much love. They are not clan wars. But who knows..the idea is sound and speculation is fun. Well, the way it works in EVE is: there are corporations and alliances. Corps and Alliances can declare war on other corps and alliances, which costs money each week. Wars are needed for hostilities in high-security space, otherwise the space-police known as CONCORD will blow up the aggressors(s), but if you have a legally declared war, you can blow up your war targets as much as you want. There are merc corps that will declare war for money and all-out attack the target for a length of time dictated by the contract. In low-security and null-security space, you can blow up whoever you want and take their stuff. Any order here is enforced by the faction(s) that control it. There is a standings system where a corp or alliance can set standings towards players, corps, or alliances and these good and bad standings show up as icons overlaid on their names. So it makes it easy to know when you see someone whether your faction likes them or not. This leads to unofficial coalitions and non-aggression pacts that are enforced only by the leaders setting standings and saying "don't shoot these guys". Of course, like real coalitions, these can also descend into in-fighting. You need at least a corp to really accomplish anything like holding territory and in null-sec you really need an alliance. This is where you get those huge battles with hundreds of people in each fleet. From what I read, corp battles in DUST will be like in EVE where balance is not enforced. If corp A brings 10 people, nothing is stopping corp B from bringing 20. We're not talking about even matches of 5v5 or whatever like in most FPSes, but wars where money, numbers, and logistics are important. I doubt anyone will hire a single person to help them out if that's what people mean by "ringers".
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.01 08:01:00 - [29] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: The EVE players that contract out nothing but ringers are going to be the ones running this game. depends on if those ringers have chemistry and can work together as a unit a corp with even skill will still win because they got better teamwork now a terrible corp is another story, the ringers can prob win on pure skill
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.08.01 08:15:00 - [30] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Meh Valor Flock was the best TBQH! I carried valor Valor flock TBQH! I kid.



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