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Lord Sedto
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.01 01:56:00 -
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I was thinking it might be nice if there was a way you could spend isk to free up skill points you have in a area you might decide you no longer want. Example could be you decide you want to switch weapons or no longer feel the need for a certain book to be learned. Using the mind eraser would reset whatever skills or all skills freeing up your choices to rebuild your character. |
EVICER
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:07:00 -
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hahahahha lol lmao |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
712
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Posted - 2012.08.01 04:42:00 -
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Lol so everyone can be like oh I wanna be a tank nao! |
Draco Dustflier
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 05:39:00 -
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Lord Sedto wrote:I was thinking it might be nice if there was a way you could spend isk to free up skill points you have in a area you might decide you no longer want. Example could be you decide you want to switch weapons or no longer feel the need for a certain book to be learned. Using the mind eraser would reset whatever skills or all skills freeing up your choices to rebuild your character.
somebody misses mag.
i think it's good that you have to spend time to get different skills than what you've been training for. it'll keep rich ppl from changing their specialties for every single freaking match. that way you can research them and strategize. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.01 06:10:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Lol so everyone can be like oh I wanna be a tank nao!
Why would that be less preferable than someone skilling to be a tank driver from the beginning? More tank drivers mean more targets for forge guns and swarm launchers. |
Lord Sedto
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:37:00 -
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Nope didn't play mag, was just a idea I don't care if I can reset my skills or not thing is after reading on these forums I tend to think you all want to cater to the casual gamer or troll on these forums. If your catering to casual gamers then a reset skills would be ideal.
Personaly I don't care if I can reset or not I usually think about what skill I want and what I get further down the road. Also I did mention it could cost isk perhaps making it a high enough number that it discourges multiple use. I love how if someone doesn't like an idea they laugh and flame. Guess even some beta players are only playing cause its free and don't want to help improve games. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:35:00 -
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on MAG you could reset your skill tree and regain your points and spend them all over. So you could try out different playstyles if the 1 that you chosed doesnt do the job. Not really a bad idea i would support this if you had to sacrifice 20% of the skillpoints you have earned in total. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:54:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:on MAG you could reset your skill tree and regain your points and spend them all over. So you could try out different playstyles if the 1 that you chosed doesnt do the job. Not really a bad idea i would support this if you had to sacrifice 20% of the skillpoints you have earned in total.
+1 |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.01 18:35:00 -
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Lord Sedto wrote:I was thinking it might be nice if there was a way you could spend isk to free up skill points you have in a area you might decide you no longer want. Example could be you decide you want to switch weapons or no longer feel the need for a certain book to be learned. Using the mind eraser would reset whatever skills or all skills freeing up your choices to rebuild your character.
No
Though for the beta, I think they should allow ONE skill wipe per character, simply for testing more targeted builds. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.08.01 18:36:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:on MAG you could reset your skill tree and regain your points and spend them all over. So you could try out different playstyles if the 1 that you chosed doesnt do the job. Not really a bad idea i would support this if you had to sacrifice 20% of the skillpoints you have earned in total.
EVE, and DUST are all about "Living with the consequences of your choices..." |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:00:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:The dark cloud wrote:on MAG you could reset your skill tree and regain your points and spend them all over. So you could try out different playstyles if the 1 that you chosed doesnt do the job. Not really a bad idea i would support this if you had to sacrifice 20% of the skillpoints you have earned in total. EVE, and DUST are all about "Living with the consequences of your choices..."
Choosing to redistribute skill points, and paying the price and penalty of that choice is just as much a choice with consequences, and to suggest otherwise would be a very arbitrary distinction.
Making people have to live with the consequences of their actions is great when its about player politics and the persistent universe, but not so much with skills, and such a restriction doesn't make the game better or more enjoyable. I don't see the value of forcing players to stick with a choice that was made uninformed; every time you decide to spend skill points to get a new weapon type, or new vehicle type, you are making an uninformed decision because its totally new to you and you might have never had a chance to try it to even know if you like it.
If this "living with the consequences" was applied in the way you are suggesting in the EVE world, this wouldn't exist. |
Taz-666
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:26:00 -
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Comparing MAG to Dust is like comparing apples to oranges and skill progression in both games is very different.
In MAG Icould Vet and beback to level 70 within about 2-3 days. Also in MAG once you reached level 70 you could not progress any further and improve other skills, hence being able to respec to change play style.
In Dust it has been said that it could take several years to max out all your skills. There is no cap on learning new skills, just the time it takes to lerarn them.
Having a respec option would just encorage players to jump on the next exploit or cheap tactic as gameplay develops and max out the next supeweapons without needing to level them up. an example being fighter craft have been mentioned. I would not want to see someone suddenly have a super fighter aircraft as soom as they are available; milk points until anti-fighter tactics get worked out and then instantly switch to next new vehicle once fighters get a slight nerf because they were originally OP. |
Lord Sedto
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:33:00 -
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Well that's a pretty big consequence of -20% skillpoints. Say you have 5 mill sp you will loose 1 mill sp through a reset leaving you at 4 mill sp to spend. And remeber through the beta its easier to gain sp. Also they could attach a time limit maybe everytime you reset your locked out of match play for 30 mins but allowed to pve stuff. Lastly it would be on board in your home space or merc quarters, you should not be allowed to respec in the middle of a battle or even before a battle.
Possitive thing for this would be when forming a party for pve or pvp people who know other classes can respec so you have a balanced party and not all one class. I usually pick one class and that's it I'm sticking it out till the bitter end, but there are people out there that want to play all classes and styles of play and would be interested in switching from assualt to logi or w/e
Then the main crwod everyone is trying to attract and keep is the casual gamer who will make a rainbow strat and spec into everything like a moron. Then they have either to start over or quit. Or what happens when the casual gamer decides they don't like being a heavy anymore and want to become a assualt? They don't want to start over not when they can go flip on anyother fps and pretty much not worry about anything.
Like I said it doesn't matter either way for me I could take it or leave it but looking at most casual player this would keep them interested and playing.. |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:36:00 -
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No OP go diaf |
Lord Sedto
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:56:00 -
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If you don't like the idea at least give reasons why you dislike it, I try to keep an open mind to everything I read regaurdless if I dissagree with the idea. Another possibility could be spend real world cash though I tend to like the penelty idea on sp when reset. But please do explain why its bad for the casual gamer, why is it bad on the die hard gamer? Why is it bad for the weakend warrior (those who login 30 hours or more on a weakend)?
I see no I don't like it and lol but really haven't seen a solid argument against it after all to skill up every skill will take seven years, so I calculate maybe a year or two to skill up to the level you want for your character. So right now your fine with the system but then you will be crying it takes to long and this and that can we respec boohoo.
But hey that's what makes games fun spending time to encrease your characters abilities. |
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