DUST Search - I cant do this anymore

Traynor Youngs wrote:

I have been in both this build and the previous one and I just cant play this game another second.

I will definately be there at lauch and in each next build, but right now I am very frustrated and bored.

In every fight I find myself yelling at teammates or the game for whatever reason. My teammates just dont play like a team, the game gets me killed over and over and I dont know why, I feel like I cant catch up to the gear level that others are at. The maps are too small and constrained, the tactics (or lack there of) are annoying.

CCP: You need to nurture your community by giving us some TEAM play to test. It may not fit in your testing plan as you have it, but your community will form around the nugget of the beta community...which is complete shite. Give us some tools to make it better and we will.

You also need to tweak the balance of the tiered gear. I die over and over like I am a noob just because I spent points into vehicles...but without a good team and good teamwork, vehicles are a waste.

I would suggest a slightly smaller delta between the top tier gear and the middle tier gear. Make the unlocked tiers give more game play options instead of increased power. Like better zoom or sticky grenades instead of just a damage boost.

As for me, I am out till the next build. I just am not interested in this game in its current build any longer.

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Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:24:00 - [1] - Quote I have been in both this build and the previous one and I just cant play this game another second. I will definately be there at lauch and in each next build, but right now I am very frustrated and bored. In every fight I find myself yelling at teammates or the game for whatever reason. My teammates just dont play like a team, the game gets me killed over and over and I dont know why, I feel like I cant catch up to the gear level that others are at. The maps are too small and constrained, the tactics (or lack there of) are annoying. CCP: You need to nurture your community by giving us some TEAM play to test. It may not fit in your testing plan as you have it, but your community will form around the nugget of the beta community...which is complete shite. Give us some tools to make it better and we will. You also need to tweak the balance of the tiered gear. I die over and over like I am a noob just because I spent points into vehicles...but without a good team and good teamwork, vehicles are a waste. I would suggest a slightly smaller delta between the top tier gear and the middle tier gear. Make the unlocked tiers give more game play options instead of increased power. Like better zoom or sticky grenades instead of just a damage boost. As for me, I am out till the next build. I just am not interested in this game in its current build any longer.
aden slayer ZionTCD Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:26:00 - [2] - Quote Traynor Youngs wrote: I have been in both this build and the previous one and I just cant play this game another second. I will definately be there at lauch and in each next build, but right now I am very frustrated and bored. In every fight I find myself yelling at teammates or the game for whatever reason. My teammates just dont play like a team, the game gets me killed over and over and I dont know why, I feel like I cant catch up to the gear level that others are at. The maps are too small and constrained, the tactics (or lack there of) are annoying. CCP: You need to nurture your community by giving us some TEAM play to test. It may not fit in your testing plan as you have it, but your community will form around the nugget of the beta community...which is complete shite. Give us some tools to make it better and we will. You also need to tweak the balance of the tiered gear. I die over and over like I am a noob just because I spent points into vehicles...but without a good team and good teamwork, vehicles are a waste. I would suggest a slightly smaller delta between the top tier gear and the middle tier gear. Make the unlocked tiers give more game play options instead of increased power. Like better zoom or sticky grenades instead of just a damage boost. As for me, I am out till the next build. I just am not interested in this game in its current build any longer. Your not interested? Than GTFO!
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:30:00 - [3] - Quote This is a BETA. We are supposed to be TESTING it NOT PLAYING it. If you find an issue then you REPORT it.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:31:00 - [4] - Quote Sorry if I havent been team playing been doing some... science experiments... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28489&find=unread
Arceus Evoxazon Hikahotaru 119	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:32:00 - [5] - Quote Traynor Youngs wrote: I have been in both this build and the previous one and I just cant play this game another second. I will definately be there at lauch and in each next build, but right now I am very frustrated and bored. In every fight I find myself yelling at teammates or the game for whatever reason. My teammates just dont play like a team, the game gets me killed over and over and I dont know why, I feel like I cant catch up to the gear level that others are at. The maps are too small and constrained, the tactics (or lack there of) are annoying. CCP: You need to nurture your community by giving us some TEAM play to test. It may not fit in your testing plan as you have it, but your community will form around the nugget of the beta community...which is complete shite. Give us some tools to make it better and we will. You also need to tweak the balance of the tiered gear. I die over and over like I am a noob just because I spent points into vehicles...but without a good team and good teamwork, vehicles are a waste. I would suggest a slightly smaller delta between the top tier gear and the middle tier gear. Make the unlocked tiers give more game play options instead of increased power. Like better zoom or sticky grenades instead of just a damage boost. As for me, I am out till the next build. I just am not interested in this game in its current build any longer. DUST HARDER DUSTARD
Absol Evoxazon Hikahotaru 28	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:33:00 - [6] - Quote Needs more remote explosive.
aden slayer ZionTCD Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:37:00 - [7] - Quote Oh and BTW if you don't want to play than you should give your account to a poor soul so he can test the game for the love of god!
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:38:00 - [8] - Quote Absol Evoxazon wrote: Needs more remote explosive. Anymore and there wont be anything worth fighting over.
Stupid Drunk1 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 96	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:43:00 - [9] - Quote Traynor Youngs wrote: In every fight I find myself yelling at teammates or the game for whatever reason. My teammates just dont play like a team, the game gets me killed over and over and I dont know why, I feel like I cant catch up to the gear level that others are at. The maps are too small and constrained, the tactics (or lack there of) are annoying. In every fight I find myself yelling at teammates or the game for whatever reason. My teammates just dont play like a team(their randoms), the game gets me killed over and over and I dont know why(No Corp/lack of skills), I feel like I cant catch up to the gear level that others are at(because they are all playing with you instead exploring the planets and diffrent security regions). The maps are too small and constrained, the tactics (or lack there of) are annoying(again you are playing with randoms who have voive chat not enabled so they dont even hear you on the TV speakers) Have zero expectations for your team from now on, you will enjoy the game far more sacrificing bad teams for yourself.
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.07.29 04:55:00 - [10] - Quote How about you get better, and stop blaming your team? Because I know there's good players out there. And most games have people wit comms.

DrunkMonk 1 Walmart Brand Mercenaries 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:17:00 - [11] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: This is a BETA. We are supposed to be TESTING it NOT PLAYING it. If you find an issue then you REPORT it. Actually CCP does also want feedback and he is giving them that, while I dont agree with what he is saying he is allowed to give feedback .
Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:35:00 - [12] - Quote Im not quiting and I know what CCP want. I have been playing Eve for 6 years. You people are ruining DUST.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:40:00 - [13] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Your not interested? Than GTFO! Seems to me that what this game needs less of, are ****** who thinks anyone should just GTFO, because they say something they disagree with. Then again, kids today are hardly being taught to tolerate differences of opinion.
Mitchman 514 36	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:49:00 - [14] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: How about you get better, and stop blaming your team? Because I know there's good players out there. And most games have people wit comms. He does have a point, though. With an influx of new and inexperienced people, what we take for granted doesn't pop into their mind at all. Can be frustrating.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.29 06:19:00 - [15] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: aden slayer wrote: Your not interested? Than GTFO! Seems to me that what this game needs less of, are ****** who thinks anyone should just GTFO, because they say something they disagree with. Then again, kids today are hardly being taught to tolerate differences of opinion. When someone says "I can't take it anymore, I'm not interested" the general response would be to say "Then leave". If you were throwing a party, and some guy went over to the DJ, took the mic, and said "Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that this party is extremely mediocre, and it doesn't interest me anymore" you would kick his ass right out the door. You wouldn't say "Oh alright, it's cool that my party sucks man, could I get you some chips?" And in conclusion, if you aren't interested, then leave, because you aren't helping anyone.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 06:24:00 - [16] - Quote rather than that, try and get him to understand that he is testing a beta build and that he is here to report bugs...this is only like 10% of the game.... it seems like half the people on this forum dont understand what beta testing entails....
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.07.29 07:51:00 - [17] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: rather than that, try and get him to understand that he is testing a beta build and that he is here to report bugs...this is only like 10% of the game.... it seems like half the people on this forum dont understand what beta testing entails.... Some people don't get the difference between a beta and a full game. Then when you tell them "dude, chill, it's just the beta. This isn't what the final game will be like" they get all defensive and throw it back in your face. I'd rather that the people who can't have fun whilst looking for bugs, just leave. Besides, with only 500 people online at any given time, why in the world would you expect to be able to get a decent team? Considering most of them are probably either A) unconcerned with you and have comms off or B) paying attention to bugs and not trying to win as though they wont be able to re-queue if they lose. I personally play for fun, pay attention to bugs when I see them, or try and work with my team to see how well the team mechanics are working. I've been in a few games where you have 6 or 7 people on comms, and it works out great; holding a position is easy, and communicating map locations/landmarks is very straight-forward. Because of how I treat the beta, I noitce issues like comms dropping out, or very random volume levels with voice chat, and other things that affect team play. Where as another player, might be testing every little nook and cranny to search for those oh-so-awful holes in the map where you just "fall" infinitely (get stuck) in one spot until you open the neocom and suicide, thus causing this type of post. This guy, is clearly playing to win, and not for fun or casual bug hunting. "Hardcore" gaming will have its place at launch, or possibly even later in the beta, but right now that isn't the goal. So if he isn't interested right now, why should he stick around? Damn, I've done it again, it's the early AM hours and I'm rambling :3
ONS TheReaper545 42	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:03:00 - [18] - Quote Sojuro Ryo wrote: This is a BETA. We are supposed to be TESTING it NOT PLAYING it. If you find an issue then you REPORT it. Quote: We are supposed to be Testing it Not Playing it. Quote: TESTING IT NOT PLAYING IT This guy must of somehow found a way to test this game without playing it. For I was under the impression you must play it to test it? What black magic is this O.o...
Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:21:00 - [19] - Quote Let me clarify, I know what beta means. I have beta tested way back games like diablo (2 not three) and Warcraft III, the Frozen Throne, Call of Duty (the first) and Sim City 4. So I know what it means when we are in a beta and awaiting the next build. What I am saying is that this build shows that this game has potential but is lacking in several key areas. Those areas are noted in my OP. First rule of beta testing, dont attack OP or what others have said, you dont earn points for winning. You earn points for being right. Imagine the Devs are shadowy mediators who see everything we say and judge our opinions based on merit. Stop trying to convince the rest of the forum.
Sojuro Ryo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.07.29 13:34:00 - [20] - Quote ONS TheReaper545 wrote: Sojuro Ryo wrote: This is a BETA. We are supposed to be TESTING it NOT PLAYING it. If you find an issue then you REPORT it. Quote: We are supposed to be Testing it Not Playing it. Quote: TESTING IT NOT PLAYING IT This guy must of somehow found a way to test this game without playing it. For I was under the impression you must play it to test it? What black magic is this O.o... If you don't know then I can not tell you.



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