Well you can "dance around without a care" in DUST too and "dawdle around acting as if youre in an all-green clownsuit and never be punished for your ignorance."

We have unlimited lives and due to militia gear have unlimited implements of destruction.

Only the turf wars will punish the "ignorant" or corporations that want to be competitive. Anyone who wants to stick with stuff like the Arena can pretty much goof off and be happy. In E3 CCP announced that you could just jump in and shoot people in the face and be as immersion or as ignorant about the meta game as you want, and you pretty much can.

EDIT: I understand that you are trying to say that the EVE universe will be cutthroat, and it certainly will be, but in DUST you can still ignore everything if you just want to solo around in the Arena or Battlemoon and shoot people in "public" battles that no one cares about.

Well you can "dance around without a care" in DUST too and "dawdle around acting as if youre in an all-green clownsuit and never be punished for your ignorance."

EDIT: I understand that you are trying to say that the EVE universe will be cutthroat, and it certainly will be, but in DUST you can still ignore everything if you just want to solo around in the Arena or Battlemoon and shoot people in "public" battles that no one cares about.

people take this game way too seriously.

It's a shooter you shoot things. if you can't do that you die.

people take this game way too seriously.

Seriously all day i've been in games where people do absolutely nothing besides sit and die. get them the eff out this beta.

people take this game way too seriously.

It's a shooter you shoot things. if you can't do that you die.

It is undeniable: games as a whole are getting easier each year, with more handholding, simpler control schemes, extended tutorials, and a relentless drive to seize the money of even the most drooling incompetent.

Simultaneously, games are getting more immersive and addictive, with the psychological feedback loops. What does a hobby with ever-increasing levels of addiction, ease, and immersion for its users create? A sense of entitlement - an entitlement that is a threat to every GÇÿhardGÇÖ game out there, but especially to, DUST514.

Despite CCPGÇÖs explicit marketing of EVE as a harsh universe full of mayhem and murder, there is a silent, ignorant herd of players who genuinely believe that DUST514 is just like the other FPSs on the market - the, hand-holding FPSs who will pat you on the back, wipe away your tears, and give you a 30-second respawn with no consequences.

When these people discover Dust514 is not a Call of Duty (CoD) they rush to the forums and loudly beat out their indignation and horror at encountering loss or danger, or both.

What is most interesting about these threads is not the mere fact that some idiot got blown up and was upset about it, but the absolutely unfounded presumption of safety expressed in such outraged terms. One notable flameout accused CCP of being GÇÿmisleading in its advertisingGÇÖ because DUST514 GÇÿreally is a beta

The ignorance demonstrated by this class of players is not an isolated problem, but part of a growing and dangerous trendGÇÖ.

It is this combination of ignorance and entitlement that threatens Dust514

It is this combination of ignorance and entitlement that threatens Dust if we could believe in the comforting Enlightenment fantasies that reason and education could save the day - the hope that someone coming to EVE:DUST 514 would do their research, understand the nature of the game, and participate in this most difficult of games with their eyes open.

Of course, one of the most horrifying lessons of EVE:DUST 514 is that the Enlightenment ideals are false; the power of reason doesnGÇÖt actually lift the population out of the muck, because theyGÇÖre too busy AFK

Consider what a player will need to do in order to be GÇÿgoodGÇÖ at Dust514. You will need situational awareness; you will need regional awareness. You will need to know whatGÇÖs going on in the market. You will need to know whatGÇÖs happening in future patches, so you need to keep track of dev blogs and adjust your training accordingly. You will need to know how to fit a vehicle or dropsuit properly for a task, which means you need a passable knowledge of skill system. You will need social skills, or youGÇÖll end up friendless, isolated, or the victim of a scam. You need financial sensibility - the ability to either live on a budget, or make so much isk that you donGÇÖt need a budget. And since most of these skills are pitted against other players, you must do them /better/ than the other players; what passed for competence in other FPSs is a laughable joke in Dust514 2012.

By contrast, in a game like CoD, BF3, MAG. You can dawdle around acting as if youre in an all-green clownsuit and never be punished for your ignorance.

Damn all this nerdtalk is f'n hilarious. I enjoy reading post like this one because of the smile it puts on my face. eve players must think they are actual space pilots and demigods with all the eve being the worlds hardest game talk. Get real most people will quit because of the horrible fps mechanics before they quit from L33T space pilots.

Chatting about the potential of DUST is more fun than actually playing DUST.

Welcome to New EDEN, give me all your isk and I will only kill you alot.

Reading the post above pure logic at its best, for them to do a complete 180% and become CoD(dumbed down) would be slap across the symbolic face of what is New Eden of EvE.

As long as null sec is retardedly hard, where even I will feel the full range of emotions, noobs can infest 1.0, I will be happy man.

Frankly with Shields & Armor that regen + Sp + safe zones + Active Aim Assit + headshots not OHK Dust 514 is one of the easiest FPS ever.

Frankly with both Shields & Armor that self regen + Sp + safe zones + Active Aim Assit + headshots not OHK Dust 514 is one of the easiest FPS ever.

Frankly with both Shields & Armor that self regen + Sp + safe zones + Active Aim Assit + headshots not OHK Dust 514 is one of the easiest FPS ever.

30-second respawn

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I think CCP well knows it does not have to cater to the majority. I've seen no implication that is beyond trying to please some barkers with gimmicks such as keyboard & mouse, or PlayStation Move...

Or killstreaks

just call in 50 tanks from your ass.

My mind. Blown.

Low TTK = harder FPS is something DEVELOPERS say.

What you say might be true, so long as the game doesn't support any kind of deep thinking.

Modern FPS developers are all about chasing the filthy lucre, and will happily whoooore any values they have for a .5% boost to market share. The problem is that the only way to appeal to the masses is to appeal to the masses, which leads straight to the lowest common denominator. The way they do this is by pushing your monkeybuttons - think cheeseburgers, pawrn, and status tokens($).

To stretch my lame example, the modern FPSs you guys want us to accept are cheeseburger-pawrn, served up for mindless consumption. CCP is in the process of cooking up for you range-fed antibiotic-free mind-beef, served with organic wisdom-veggies and a side of backbone-Hakarl. Unfortunately your inner-city kid fastfood-gimped FPS souls are telling you that the feast being laid out in front of you is just weird and gross and wrong.

The question is, are you growing weary of standing in line with the rest of the herd waiting to pay for your next McFPS?