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Raynor Ragna
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:57:00 -
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Just an FYI. 2 minutes of constant knifing on an active tank will not kill it. Tanks should be nerfed :( |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:07:00 -
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What's your knife handling at? And were you using Stimulants.
I killed two tanks in the last match I was in. One with my Militia AR and a Locus Grenade, and one with a Militia Shotgun and my knife (no, I'm not joking... a Sica Tension and a Gunnlogi - sorry Forge Gun guy...) |
Carilito
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:12:00 -
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Raynor Ragna wrote:Just an FYI. 2 minutes of constant knifing on an active tank will not kill it. Tanks should be nerfed :(
Cant argue with that can you...
Sarcasm |
Chris Vesker
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:24:00 -
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inb4 can knife anything in CoD.
I was knifing a turret earlier. NO dmg given. <--- im fine with this. |
Zeran Haggai
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
196
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:28:00 -
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Raynor Ragna wrote:Just an FYI. 2 minutes of constant knifing on an active tank will not kill it. Tanks should be nerfed :(
Strap a couple RE's to the knife before you start slicing. Explosive knives work much better on tanks |
Ayures0
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:31:00 -
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This is my new favorite thread.
I demand it be stickied. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:33:00 -
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Ayures0 wrote:This is my new favorite thread.
I demand it be stickied.
Agreed. |
Nom Lemming
5
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Posted - 2012.07.30 12:18:00 -
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Only time I start knifing tanks is when my ammo runs out  |
Edgar-Allan Poe
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 12:23:00 -
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Raynor Ragna wrote:Just an FYI. 2 minutes of constant knifing on an active tank will not kill it. Tanks should be nerfed :( |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.07.30 12:30:00 -
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i know how you feel about this oversight, ccp need to look in to this. i can't believe the haven't fixed this... knifes kill tanks better then any other weapon in a game. i also think that if you drop a drop link on a tank it should blow the tank up, anyone agree? |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.07.30 12:33:00 -
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4447 wrote:i know how you feel about this oversight, ccp need to look in to this. i can't believe the haven't fixed this... knifes kill tanks better then any other weapon in a game. i also think that if you drop a drop link on a tank it should blow the tank up, anyone agree?
Nope.
Not until someone uses it to spawn.
Telefrags are the best kind of frags |
Devil Biff
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:42:00 -
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This is one of those "challenged" threads.
Knife a tank? Plz try in real life an get back with me. |
VigSniper101
204
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:46:00 -
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This made me laugh..because in Starhawk...somehow...you can knife a tank! |
VigSniper101
204
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:47:00 -
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Devil Biff wrote:This is one of those "challenged" threads.
Knife a tank? Plz try in real life an get back with me.
Your sarcasm detector needs to go back to the shop.
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Devil Biff
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
55
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:04:00 -
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VigSniper101 wrote:Devil Biff wrote:This is one of those "challenged" threads.
Knife a tank? Plz try in real life an get back with me. Your sarcasm detector needs to go back to the shop.
No, just like being a smart ass about a useless thread. But those r my favorite type of threads though.  |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:08:00 -
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http://www.dust514.org/item-database/item/zn-28-nova-knife
I'm all for a plasma knife hurting a tank. But even fully maxed 500-600 damage knife (3xmyofibril), you are going to be there a while... Like the suggested 2minutes. If the tanker hasn't got out and blown your head off (it happened to me when I was testing knife vs tank, Heavy with HMG as pilots are unexpected.) or he could drive off... |
Draco Dustflier
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:18:00 -
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yes. a six inch knife that can barely take out a soldier should be able to kill a tank.
in that case, let's make the inertia dampener send out a shockwave that disables any tank within 100 feet, add a commando knife skill that lets you fly across the entire map so that you can knife a sniper, have pistols be one shot kills on prototype heavies, and allow grenades to be thrown at the mcc for 25% damage!
seriously, whens the last time you cut a tank with a steak knife? |
VigSniper101
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:32:00 -
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Devil Biff wrote:VigSniper101 wrote:Devil Biff wrote:This is one of those "challenged" threads.
Knife a tank? Plz try in real life an get back with me. Your sarcasm detector needs to go back to the shop. No, just like being a smart ass about a useless thread. But those r my favorite type of threads though.
That case sir, you get a Like:) |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:35:00 -
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Draco, it's a plasma edged knife designed to cut through damn near anything. Just think about the numbers for a second. 135 damage knife. 13000ehp HAV. That's 100 chops. Some people have claimed 17-30k ehp.
Militia SMG does 20 damage at 1000 rpm. Clip of 60 or so. That's 1200 damage per clip. Both are as stupid as each other with regards hurting an HAV. But the SMG with skills work wonders against tanks currently. Jump on and open fire.
I'm not too fussed either way, but tbh clambering around on a tank, I think a plasma knife would be more useful. I agree a kitchen knife woul be pretty garbage though ;) maybe equipping every soldier with plasma knives isn't wise. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.07.31 20:46:00 -
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anti tank knife |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.01 03:49:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Draco, it's a plasma edged knife designed to cut through damn near anything. Just think about the numbers for a second. 135 damage knife. 13000ehp HAV. That's 100 chops. Some people have claimed 17-30k ehp.
Militia SMG does 20 damage at 1000 rpm. Clip of 60 or so. That's 1200 damage per clip. Both are as stupid as each other with regards hurting an HAV. But the SMG with skills work wonders against tanks currently. Jump on and open fire.
I'm not too fussed either way, but tbh clambering around on a tank, I think a plasma knife would be more useful. I agree a kitchen knife woul be pretty garbage though ;) maybe equipping every soldier with plasma knives isn't wise.
Your numbers are wrong.
You're assuming no shield regen and no armour reppers. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.08.01 03:53:00 -
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Quote:But the SMG with skills work wonders against tanks currently. Jump on and open fire.
All that will do is give you a free ride to my spawn. |
Ventis Gant
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.08.01 06:23:00 -
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From a game balance perspective, knifing a tank probably isn't balanced. From a "realistic" perspective, an expertly wielded plasma blade ought to be able to cut something vital if you knew exactly where to strike...which shouldn't be too hard to learn, as there are currently only a few models of tank available. If nothing else, it would be awesome to be able to punch that sucker through to the pilot's compartment, right through his suit's faceplate, then hack his tank, pull his body out, and hop in. I am not advocating actually being able to DO this, mind you. Merely stating that it would be awesome. Maybe CCP could give us an extra special cinema scene trailer where someone does this? With many disclaimers noting that you cannot actually do this in game? |
Southern1Cross
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:10:00 -
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i knifed a dropship NO JOKE BRO |
GreasyFinger Bumsticker
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:38:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote:yes. a six inch knife that can barely take out a soldier should be able to kill a tank.
in that case, let's make the inertia dampener send out a shockwave that disables any tank within 100 feet, add a commando knife skill that lets you fly across the entire map so that you can knife a sniper, have pistols be one shot kills on prototype heavies, and allow grenades to be thrown at the mcc for 25% damage!
seriously, whens the last time you cut a tank with a steak knife?
if i cut your battery and power cables which operate your tank would you still be sayin ridiculous stuff after we got it the first time? i dunno man knives can mess vehicles up..this is the future battlefield which goes without saying, endless possibilities in this ridiculous game.... |
Nate Silverley
Rebelles A Quebec
139
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:48:00 -
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I will challenge that man to a game of rock, paper, tanks anytime  |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:29:00 -
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Garret, what difference to their reps have on my damage? On second thoughts, post corrected numbers to show it :p
(it might take more attacks than I've said, but it's a rough figure anyway) |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:41:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Garret, what difference to their reps have on my damage? On second thoughts, post corrected numbers to show it :p
(it might take more attacks than I've said, but it's a rough figure anyway)
I don't have exact numbers on much of it (and I can't look them up while the servers are down), but I know that even a Militia Repair Tool does +75 armour per tick on vehicles, and it ticks at least as fast as you can swing your Knife. I can also say that the built-in armour reppers do a LOT more than the Repair Tools, so while one of them is running, a tank's armour will be completely immune to Knives. Shield regen rates are high enough on their own to make a visible difference even over the course of 5 - 10 swings, let alone 100, and a shield booster on top of that gives MASSIVE buffs to shield power while it's running, so again, invulnerable while it's active. |
Ventis Gant
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.08.03 18:03:00 -
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Talking about while the reppers/boosters are running is a different set of numbers, and they can be figured into EHP. However, an active tank also has a DPS tank. If, for instance, a tank has a 100DPS tank (just making up numbers...I have no idea what it really is), and recieves 100 damage every second, then the tank's tank is stable. If it recieves 150 damage per second, then the tank will eventually break, and the tank will die. However, it is possible to have a DPS number for a weapon that is LESS than the DPS of the tank, and still kill it, if your alpha is high enough, especially with a passive tank. Passive tanks are based on using natural shield recharge to repair the damage dealt faster than they recieve it. However, because of the way recharging shields works, they recharge fastest at a certain percent (can't remember where the sweet spot is). So if your high alpha can take off a big enough chunk at a time, then you can bring the shield below the sweet spot, and it might no longer be able to tank the DPS you are putting out. |
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