Ya they need to put limitations per team. 4 vehicles per 12 people man team. Intead of 10 for the whole map. But really they need to take out millitant vehicles for free first otherwise anyone with a decent vehicle will have trouble fielding them. because everyone calling in there millitant crap.

Might as well limit the number of Heavy Suits you can have on a map, because they're so good at sniping with those Forge Guns. Can't forget about those.

K. Let's do this. You can limit the tanks if you limit the number of assault rifles and suits. kk?

No, because you don't have enough skill to match my tank.

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not sure if srs
forge guns were already nerfed........if u get hit DIRECTLY with something that can take out an armored tank u deserve to die, who the **** dies to forge guns as infantry?

Ahhhh. Mw2 junkie. Now I see why you don't like vehicles. Sorry this isn't another cod.

never said anything about realism
u have to land a direct hit with a forge gun to kill someone, so unless u are standing still u should not be dying to forge gun users tbqh

This game wouldn't be half as good if there weren't any vehicles. Not every game can be a run 'n gun game. Vehicles stay, that's for sure.

So you're saying that console gamers can't handle the meta game? That doesn't seem like a very charitable assessment. Also, I really hope you aren't actually having problems with the militia tanks, because I can strip the shield off a Soma with my CreoDron. Those paper tanks are worthless, and damn easy to kill with pretty much anything.

play clan matches on bf and then tell me if its boring
stop playin lolpubs
pubs are boring in every game
and the ONLY map that has too many vehicles on BF3 is Operation Firestorm on console
if u dont like vehicles u are playing the wrong game plain and simple.
Told MAG players that DUST will be heavy on vehicles as well so if u not into it/cant deal with it then its the wrong game u are lookin into

Oh ok.

This game wouldn't be half as good if there limits on vehicles. Not every game can be a run 'n gun game. Vehicles stay as is.

Arbitrary restrictions and rules designed to make things "Fair" and "Balanced" are stupid, gamey, kitchy, (pick your bad adjective) and have no place in a sandbox war game.

As has been said in this thread already, you might as well restrict everything to some kind of "balanced" level, like drop uplinks or nano hives or swarm launchers or heavy machine guns or scout suits or whatever.

If you want an arena balanced arcade shooter, go elsewhere.

We don't want your campy "balance" rule sets in our universe. They are dumb.

If a team wants to use the money to field a tank for everyone, then they should feel free. And if the enemy is worth a dam they will swap into AV setups and drink their tears while slaughtering tanks all day.

The only restriction to how many things you can put down should be how much you can afford to lose.

This is war, not kiddy holdyourhandhappyfuntimes shooter game time. Grow up and fight like an adult or go back to CoD.

Wrong. That's just cod games.

Yeah, but you can get to the top with skill. I mean, to even get an HAV, you have to be a mediocre player for ages, or be a damn good player and get one rapidly. But it'll still die to two heavies with Forge Guns. Also, the idea isn't for all the EVE players to buy PS3s, its for the noobs to be brought in, get a sense of the scale, and then work to improve their skill in whatever they want to do, to thereby train their skills higher and unlock better equipment. I don't think this game is going to be as much of a turnoff to all new players as you assume it's going to be.

1. STOP YELLING AT ME
2. "Balance" is not what you think it is. Like I said, if you want an ARENA style FPS, go elsewhere. Balance in an sandbox is called balance of opportunity. Not balance of outcome.
3. Meta game is something that you don't even know that you know nothing about. When you are actually leading a campaign of battles to conquer dozens of systems and have hundreds of other real people following your orders, then you can tell me that "SkILL IS KING!" cause it isn't, leadership and metagaming strategy is king, skill is what you tie your shoes with.

Slightly off topic:

I like you, ALM1GHTY STATIUS.

I don't agree with you, but you aren't afraid to put your viewpoints out there, and you aren't afraid to defend them. We could honestly use more people like that in here to try and offset all the people that just whine. I had you marked as one of them, but you actually seem ok.

They can protect themselves. It's called forges and swarms.

You are forgetting something important.

Even if FPS players hate it and quit, this game is tied to Eve. Eve players will use it at least a little bit as long as it affects their bottom line. And Eve players make CCP enough money to be able to grow DUST slowly for a LONG time.

This is not a flash in the pan FPS game like CoD black ops or something. CCP have staying power and they won't let it die even is spoiled FPS gamers don't like it.

For Christs sake the game is free to download and free to play. I think they are gonna be fine.

I also don't understand why you would define following orders as not being fun. My best games in BF2142 always came with the assistance of a capable Commander. I mean, do you really want to be playing a match with a few hundred people with some arbitrary vehicle count that has most of the group running around on foot to get from place to place? The idea is that vehicles are how you get yourself to facilities and fight for ground along the way, while you're on foot inside, kind of like how they've shown Planetside 2 to operate.

A couple of problems with your argument.

False dilemma saying that good players are the ones that play halo/CoD/BF etc. Not a perfect comparison or always true in either sense.

Saying good players don't care about meta, again, speak for yourself cause its not always true.

Fun, thats true.

Saying following orders is not fun is not always true. Have you ever worked as a team under an inspirational leader and accomplished something as a team that you couldn't accomplish alone? It was fun right?

Stats and numbers don't conquer all, but skill with understanding the stats and numbers can. Just the way it works in real life.

Balance doesn't mean you are always safe from being steamrolled. Balance means that you have a fair chance to steamroll back.

Skill is the only thing that matters in stupid gamey arcade shooters.

in real life combat (which I have been in) its about skill, intelligence, strategy, intuition, teamwork, blind stupid luck, and a little bit of street smarts.

Your arguments are infantile, vague, full of logical loopholes, and unconvincing.

You're forgetting something. Planet based colonies, which YOU will be fighting over, produce Starbase fuel. Starbases are both the only means of harvesting moon minerals, which are essential for Tech II production, and holding labs and construction facilities for building their ships and components, AND are the only means to produce Supercarriers and Titans, the largest, most expensive, and most powerful assets in the game

We can't AFFORD to ignore you.

QFT

Almighty I do not know why you **** and moan like a little school girl so much.

I do not cry OP about your fully proto gear assault suit set up. Oh no ALMIGHTY spent 10m points to get his ubber assault set up he is OP because I shot him in the back with my advanced rifle with no skills behind it and he turned around and killed me.

It is the same thing someone who spends 10m into the sagaris/surya gets the kills easier. Just like you with your proto suit getting easy kills.

Oh no a tank killed me 2 times I actually have to DIE so something has to be OP in this game.

But yes 3-4 vehicles are a must otherwise you destroy the vehicle gameplay in this game. if a full team wants to go set in 4 sagaris I will happly pop all 4 mine and get 12 quick kills. before you say it is impossible 3 tanks came rolling down on attacking. 2 sagaris 1 surya. I pop out on onside they all come after me I come rolling up from behind all of a sudden 1, 2 , 3. :) 8 kills in the first Min. :)

So a very boring game?

If everyone is that balanced and using the exact same weapon, not sure anyone will stay tbh.