Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:24:00 -
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The folks who responded to the OP are correct. Also, to answer your question, yes. Eve Online is just as ruthless as it seems. New Eden is where all the other MMO players go to when other games like WoW, Second Life, etc. have booted them out or rejected them for being ass-hats.
And no, CCP has no plans to tone that down in Dust. Judging from what they mentioned in Fanfest 2012 and during the E3 Sony Press Conference of 2012, Dust 514 will expand on that same universe. CCP's CEO Hilmar Peturrson even mentioned during interview that backstabbing is to be expected in Dust 514.
Welcome to New Eden. You will never find a more vicious hive of scum and villainy.
PS: Since Eve Online already has corporations/alliances such as Eve-University and Red-vs-Blue that are tailored towards helping new players learn the ropes on fleet battles, industry, and other things, we can expect to see them cross over to Dust and help out the new comers. This will be beneficial to everyone especially since you and I will begin the game with the knowledge of how the game works. In other words, you and I are students who are about to become the teachers of future students. |
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Knarf Black wrote:EVE's not really my bag (tried the demo, barely got beyond character creation), but I get the feeling that the outside media coverage makes it seem more intimidating than it actually is.
You're not going to see Cracked lists about all the nice things people have done for each other in an MMO or all the times that people aren't screwed over. It's the massive heists, pyramid schemes, and ganking that cause virtual ink to spill.
This is not to say that it isn't the wild west, though. It's just probably not quite as bad as we, the uninitiated, hear on the intertubes.
Oh, it is as bad to those who are not use to living in a cut-throat game where there is so very little in the way of law that even the in-game police only deliver punishment (not protection) and even then their jurisdiction is limited to space as they have no business dealing with what happens on the planets.
If you are use to dealing with scum bags in others, then of course Eve Online won't seem as bad. But if you're use to having your hand held for you by the game developers, then you are in for the ride of your life. Let's also not forget the meta-gaming aspect of Eve. Other game developers design their games to prevent or mitigate meta-gaming. But CCP seems to be one of the few developers embracing it instead.
In fact, the economy itself has been so unique and successful that the developers of Guild Wars 2 have not only copied its market design but also publicly admitted that their idea of the market system is based on what they learned from Eve Online. The Eve market will soon be the same system for Dust.
http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/microtransactions-guild-wars-2-economy/
Imagine, not having to fire a single shot in Dust just by simply putting up buy orders for cheap and then reselling the same thing at a marked up price as a sell order. Dust will come out in 2012, but I get the feeling that the market won't flourish until summer 2013, the typical season in which Eve Online receives the first of two new major expansions per year (the second being on winter). Imagine the implications of this having on Dust once it becomes fully emergent.
Remember, it took eve about a few years after its release date back in 2003 to actually be fully emergent and thus result in the first of many major heists, scams, schemes, and ultimately the first great war.
However, given that Dust will be directly linked up with Eve which has already been well established and completely emergent almost its entire lifetime in the past 9 years, one can probably expect Dust to be fully emergent in no more than one and a half years after release as skilled Eve players study the Dust system and impose their own experience on Dust for their advantage. |