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Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:02:00 -
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Dear EVE players,
I'm a newcomer to the DUST/EVE universe and up until today knew next to nothing about how **** goes down in New Eden. Well, I finally decided to do some research, and holy balls, I've only just started to scratch the surface and already I'm alarmed by the amount of piracy, scamming, and general ass-hattery that seems to go on in it.
So basically, I have a two-part question:
1) Is EVE really as ruthless and unforgiving as it seems?
2) If so, what does this mean for DUST? Has CCP mentioned trying to tone down some of those aspects to give less psychotic players a chance?
EDIT: Just for the record, I'm all for ruthless and unforgiving as long as it's actually used to achieve something. Cruelty for the sake of cruelty is what I'm really concerned about. |
Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:27:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Put it this way
A EVE corp may hire your DUST corp to take down a planet
The DUST corp may take it because its a juicy profit for everyone and may not really care about who they are fighting, the same EVE corp may then use another corp to get some defenders into place
As the match starts both EVE corps may have 1 person on the filed of play maybe even in both DUST corps, the match may go on for 10mins with both sides doing okay and its a close match
Then if and when the EVE players get bored they may just unleash OB from 100ships thanks to the players they have on the ground and just kill everyone for the fun of it and it will also include the hiring corp killing the corp they hired so teamkilling just for ***** n giggles
If they can do it, it will happen, someone will do it and its a just a matter of when
See, it's stuff like this I'm concerned about. I was reading about peoples' experiences on DayZ the other day and it was basically "spawn -> run into some other guy -> [optional: other guy pretends to be friendly for a while] -> get raeped -> repeat"; a lot of people were saying it's basically like that because that's(apparently) the only way to turn an "otherwise boring game" fun.
I was hoping(foolishly I guess, because my hopes were largely unsubstantiated) that this game would be different, and really provide the compelling, realistic feel I'm looking for. But I guess people can only get off on mindlessly killing others, whether it's in a run-and-gun CoD type game or one where you have to plan and scheme and use real-world market manipulation and social engineering tactics.
Ugh, internet, I am disappoint.
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Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:53:00 -
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(...Seriously? You can't delete a mis-post?) |
Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.25 18:21:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Although, for a casual player the in depth political stuff that goes on with sovereignty/planets in EVE probably won't affect the way you play the game at all.
See, maybe I'm not getting my point across exactly. I'm totally on board with realistic politics/economics, sovereignty wars, corporate espionage; that's the reason I even became interested in DUST to begin with. The problem I have is when players start using all of these elements(intelligently and cunningly no less!) just so that they can blow up some guys or troll somebody who's spent months building up a company.
Not to actually achieve anything or shift the balance of power or whatever, just so that they can laugh and point at somebody and say "ahahaha you suuuuuuck neener neener neener."
I don't know, how is it even possible for someone to possess both characteristics? |
Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.25 18:50:00 -
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Milk Supreme wrote:In a capitalist society, it's certainly the highway there
Wrong. Without getting into politics too much, a(pure) capitalist society should work perfectly. The only reason it seemingly doesn't is because A) What most of us know as a democratic/capitalist society more closely mirrors traditional tribal/caste structures, and B)Even if there were a country on earth that had a real capitalist system, it would probably quickly fail not because of any inherent flaws in the system, but because people are too stupid to exercise their power as consumers. /semi-rant
Anyway, after having my fears more or less confirmed, I'm seriously considering just quitting while I'm ahead. Is anyone going to come in here and show me that there's a glimmer of decency in this hellhole? |
Ancaris Tenarre
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.07.26 01:45:00 -
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Hey guys, OP here.
So after hearing what you guys have to say and learning a little more about EVE I'm kind of on the fence. It's difficult to make a judgement because the more I look at the "underhanded" player tactics, from the small-time scams and ganking to the big "scandals" that have rocked the EVE world, the more I realize most of them could be classified as either game enriching OR game destroying, based on context that simply can't be imparted to an outside observer and of course, personal preference.
Like I've said, I'm not at all against being ruthless and taking every opportunity to get ahead, but only if it serves a greater purpose and enriches both the world lore and game mechanics/strategy. It's only when these tactics become the game itself; when the goal is nothing more than to "make n00bs cry" that it loses interest for me. Personally I've never derived any pleasure from making other people suffer, but whatever floats your boat.
I'm just disappointed that this game may not turn out to be what I thought it was. But hey, whatever, that's on me for not doing the research. Time will tell if it ends up being engaging or not. |
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