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mini rehak
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:24:00 -
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I would like some tips for this game. I'm completely new to Dust and will be playing in the upcoming beta event. I spend allot of time playing BF3 so i'm not new to the whole large vehicular FPS thing but i heard it's different than other FPS's out there so I would really appreciate some tips and advise from people who already played Dust. |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:48:00 -
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WOW thanks for all the advise, iv'e seen some videos describing the customization and i was just lost can anyone explain it and is their bullet drop in Dust. Because i play BF3 i'm used to aiming above long targets with guns and tanks and was wondering if they put that mechanic in here. |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:56:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:mini rehak wrote:WOW thanks for all the advise, iv'e seen some videos describing the customization and i was just lost can anyone explain it and is their bullet drop in Dust. Because i play BF3 i'm used to aiming above long targets with guns and tanks and was wondering if they put that mechanic in here. on most weapons there is not (i don't snipe so i have no ******* clue there, and mass drivers have an arc of course) there is a bit of deviation and kick, but compared to battlefield it's very light. the real issue will be range. guns in dust have HARD caps on range. after so-ever much distance your bullet will hit an invisible wall and go no further. this range varies by weapon type, and can be buffed with skills, but it's definitely jarring at first. especially with an smg... Thanks i didn't want too look like a ****** shooting above people and thanks for the range cap info that's something i'm gonna have to get used to |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:57:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:aim, press r1
repeat.
best advise iv'e seen in this forum lol |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:mini rehak wrote:WOW thanks for all the advise, iv'e seen some videos describing the customization and i was just lost can anyone explain it and is their bullet drop in Dust. Because i play BF3 i'm used to aiming above long targets with guns and tanks and was wondering if they put that mechanic in here. Since you asked let me help you out a bit. Skills. While your clone is already preprogrammed with muscle memory to do everything, skills however is just what you mind is augmenting with it to make that function much better. YOu have to choose these carefully as they cannot be dumped undone or changed ever. Its always a safer bet to stock up and spend later, than to spend now and wasted it on a skill you are likely to never use. For example I hate driving, I dont waste SP into LAVs or HAVs. As i said with part 1 look at all the possible skills in the market read thier descriptions to what they do and dont do. From there look at all the modules and read thier descriptions on what they do and dont do. Find the neat little things and start formulating your customization plan. Gear. Gear is extremly customizable and more forgiving twoards the trial and error. Dont like the tactial assault rifle? try the breach? dont like low magazine size? try the assault and so on. Dying to much because you didnt heal fast enough from the last fight? Try shield tanking, dont like dying in a 2v1 situation go for armor tank. Dont like getting shot period try speed tanking. The list goes on and on. Watch other people play too and how they approach problems to situations most of the time however you are that problem that needs removal so dont take offense to it. Spend smartly spend wisely dont think that higher teir gear is going to change your game for you, it wont. if you cannot make kills with tier one or milita variants you are not making kills with the protype version, period. The only thing proto gear does is make people who are very deadly in milita gear THAT much more deadlier. so with the skills can I be a good heavy AND be a good tanker or do i just specialize in one and sorta just use the other because i love vehicle play and gun play |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:03:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:mini rehak wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:aim, press r1
repeat.
best advise iv'e seen in this forum lol i'm writing a book. what happens when i run out of ammo? |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:07:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Don't specialize in the heavy unless you are completely dedicated to it. It is very expensive to get to proto gear and you move real slow making you an easy target.
However if you do decide to go heavy and you get to the top of your skill points its a blast, everything finally equals out but can be quite expensive.
well i like using big guns so can i use light or medium armor with a big gun and with big guns is it like TF2 where you have to rev the gun and basically stand still to fire? |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:mini rehak wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:mini rehak wrote:WOW thanks for all the advise, iv'e seen some videos describing the customization and i was just lost can anyone explain it and is their bullet drop in Dust. Because i play BF3 i'm used to aiming above long targets with guns and tanks and was wondering if they put that mechanic in here. Since you asked let me help you out a bit. Skills. While your clone is already preprogrammed with muscle memory to do everything, skills however is just what you mind is augmenting with it to make that function much better. YOu have to choose these carefully as they cannot be dumped undone or changed ever. Its always a safer bet to stock up and spend later, than to spend now and wasted it on a skill you are likely to never use. For example I hate driving, I dont waste SP into LAVs or HAVs. As i said with part 1 look at all the possible skills in the market read thier descriptions to what they do and dont do. From there look at all the modules and read thier descriptions on what they do and dont do. Find the neat little things and start formulating your customization plan. Gear. Gear is extremly customizable and more forgiving twoards the trial and error. Dont like the tactial assault rifle? try the breach? dont like low magazine size? try the assault and so on. Dying to much because you didnt heal fast enough from the last fight? Try shield tanking, dont like dying in a 2v1 situation go for armor tank. Dont like getting shot period try speed tanking. The list goes on and on. Watch other people play too and how they approach problems to situations most of the time however you are that problem that needs removal so dont take offense to it. Spend smartly spend wisely dont think that higher teir gear is going to change your game for you, it wont. if you cannot make kills with tier one or milita variants you are not making kills with the protype version, period. The only thing proto gear does is make people who are very deadly in milita gear THAT much more deadlier. so with the skills can I be a good heavy AND be a good tanker or do i just specialize in one and sorta just use the other because i love vehicle play and gun play Yes its possible to get both done, for example, Mechanic Skill is one of those Omni-use skills as it increases armor HP on both vehicles and suits. But Like I said plan for both carefully and load balance between your primary and secondary goals. Becuase you will eventually have to start spending skill points on HAV operation and its use of a heavy weapon and Heavy Suit skill and the weapons related to it as well. But ID the skills that can quickly help both loadouts quickly and that would be the best spendage of points. Thanks ill try to do both and what is that HAV operation? |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:12:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:mini rehak wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:mini rehak wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:aim, press r1
repeat.
best advise iv'e seen in this forum lol i'm writing a book. what happens when i run out of ammo? die well that sucks |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:22:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:mini rehak wrote:I would like some tips for this game. I'm completely new to Dust and will be playing in the upcoming beta event. I spend allot of time playing BF3 so i'm not new to the whole large vehicular FPS thing but i heard it's different than other FPS's out there so I would really appreciate some tips and advise from people who already played Dust. heres a tip for you from a eve player if you dont want to hate this game like eve dont use the most isk costing fits to take on other players its better to die 3 time then one if you losted only 12000 isk for 3 weres 5600000 isk for 1 remeber this game will be tide into eve wich has a player markeit the isk you use to buy stuff go,s to someone in eve 2nd K/D is not god in this game it will never be gos is how much isk you have all way hold on to 2 mill just for a rainy day. could you pleas explain the first part a little better and in regards to the second thing i know K/D doesn't mean S**t (bf3 tought me that) the only stat i remotely care about is W/L ratio |
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mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:35:00 -
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dont worry Iron Wolf Saber i'm not expecting Battlefield mechanics in Dust i'm just trying to get a bit of a comparison going on and don't worry I will adapt and i will not die |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:39:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:mini rehak wrote:what happens when i run out of ammo? PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is screwing with you. a nanohive will restore your ammo. any suit but the heavy can carry them so long as you have enough pg/cpu. you could even ask a teammate if they have one. people will be happy to hook you up as they get points for it. don't worry i knew hey was messing around and i thought i'd play along too and when you say ask a teammate does this game have teamspeak or you just talk to specific people like in a squad |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:47:00 -
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thanks Iron Wolf Saber for the item briefing now i gotta ask whats the player count and hows the gameplay? |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:57:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its very Beta-ish its not a demo and we are no where near the 'balance' phase yet we're still in 'developing features for launch' phase.
Current cap is 12 vs 12 with current maps they had gone up to higher in the past (I think 16 vs 16) and they said they can go 256 vs 256 on thier inside builds but you have to start designing.
I find drop ship piloting perfect, LAV and HAV driving a bit wonky and gun play beset by aim assist and hit detection glitches. wow 256 v 256 would be EPIC, now one more thing needs clarifying with the mercenaries pack, is that just access too all beta events or constant beta access (like playing without a specific beta event) |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.24 00:06:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:mini rehak wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its very Beta-ish its not a demo and we are no where near the 'balance' phase yet we're still in 'developing features for launch' phase.
Current cap is 12 vs 12 with current maps they had gone up to higher in the past (I think 16 vs 16) and they said they can go 256 vs 256 on thier inside builds but you have to start designing.
I find drop ship piloting perfect, LAV and HAV driving a bit wonky and gun play beset by aim assist and hit detection glitches. wow 256 v 256 would be EPIC, now one more thing needs clarifying with the mercenaries pack, is that just access too all beta events or constant beta access (like playing without a specific beta event) merc pack is full access, but the beta is still offline a few days a week for everyone. no matter how you got in. alright i'm probably gonna buy it then, do you know when their releasing the open beta |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.24 04:56:00 -
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ROIZENGH i always try to figure a game out before i play it. I'm happy i didn't get flamed for being new and wanting to learn. when I made the switch from MW3(s**t game) to BF3 i made a forum like this and god damn people weren't happy so i had to figure it out all by myself. And i always use a mic in every online game i play |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.24 18:49:00 -
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DatFeckinTwat wrote:Well, I just gotta say, I am most impressed with the helpful and insightful comments in this post. Kudos to all you guys (even you PEEEETREEEE! You crazy fool!). I can honestly say that the camaraderie that is beginning to develop within the Beta group is just the beginning of the rivalries and team bonding that is going to make Dust514 THE most innovative, immersive experience on the PS3 for quite sometime to come. Suit up guys and gals (there are gals here, right?) its almost Thursday!!! *EDIT* Servers back up Tonight! TONIGHT!!!! See y'all then... I'm going to bed now! yeah i gotta say i really didn't expect this much helpful info i have to say say thanks to all of you and i can't wait to see all you on the battlefield |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:08:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:DatFeckinTwat wrote:Well, I just gotta say, I am most impressed with the helpful and insightful comments in this post. Kudos to all you guys (even you PEEEETREEEE! You crazy fool!). I can honestly say that the camaraderie that is beginning to develop within the Beta group is just the beginning of the rivalries and team bonding that is going to make Dust514 THE most innovative, immersive experience on the PS3 for quite sometime to come. Suit up guys and gals (there are gals here, right?) its almost Thursday!!! *EDIT* Servers back up Tonight! TONIGHT!!!! See y'all then... I'm going to bed now! LOL sorry I was feeling lazy mini, didn't want to go into the whole "stay by cover, always have an exit strategy posts" that i've written in the past. Actually, I should just do a search for said posts and copy/paste. brb mini Edit: Back Here is something I posted for someone else a while back. If you're just starting out now, you're probably going to die a lot. People have been grinding away for two weeks(I think) and are at a much higher level than you.
I reccommend purchasing the militia shield and weapons in the marketplace to start. These weapons and gear are 1 time purchases with infinite use. Equip these items in the dropsuit fitting section of your menu.
As for actual gameplay tips, STAY AROUND PEOPLE. Because you are a low level, you are very succeptible to being picked off if you are alone. Your shields are weaker and your gun is weaker. YOU CAN help your teammates by providing kill assists and ammo until you feel like you are a high enough level to start taking on people by yourself. If you see someone driving a tank that needs a gunner or rocket man, HOP ON IN! The canons in said tank are probably stronger than the weapon in your hands.
I cannot stress the point about sticking with your team enough. It is very important if you plan on surviving through the beginning stages of skill progression.
This is pretty general, ask any other questions you may have. Edit #2 Found more You need to just be aware of your surroundings. The biggest mistake I see people make is just running out in the middle of the open. Run from cover to cover but don't stop moving.
If you see a tank, and you're not anti vehicle, get the hell out.
If you're engaging more than two people, stay cautious and make sure you have an exit from the firefight.
Staying alive isn't just about having better gun game than the other person, it's more about knowing what is happening around you at all times and adjusting your position and playstyle to fit that situation. I know you where dicking around but it actually mad me lol, and thanks for the actual tips |
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