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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.23 18:24:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:In short, EvE players will decide prices and who gets what. Tbh? Way to ruin the game. Give all EvE players prototype access while everyone who isn't in EvE pays 4 billion per protosuit. Yay for live markets. Oh and that's 4 billion IF you are fighting for them. Fighting against them? Gtfo. Tbh EvE players screwing with pricing will totally screw the game, and CCP need to figure out a way to deal with this.
EvE players can totally ruin dust if they do choose basically, they earn billions of ISK. A good miner will earn more ISK than all of us beta testers put together. So yeah, money will flow bak to EvE and probably never return.
I don't think you understand how the EVE economy works, with this logic almost every ship would be unaffordable. Things will be fine, as the cutthroat economy will mean someone will always undersell someone else. Jita is a perfect example of this. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.23 18:47:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Not if you are producing it. Then we work for you, no choice if we want good gear. I'm only playing devils advocate here.
Let me put it another way. EVE is very capitalistic, as Milk Supreme is pointing out. Everyone is also at war with everyone at all times, in all senses of the word.
See: Eve is serious business
Attacking someone and gaining an advantage in the market is a form of PvP. If I think I can gear up my industrial corps and gain a foothold in the market by undercutting everyone else selling 4 million isk suits, imagine the blow I can do by selling my suits for a mere 100,000 ISK.
Suddenly the competition is sitting on entire warehouses of useless suits that are not selling, I gain a reputation for selling suits at dirtcheap prices, and everyone has to scramble to compensate, leaving serious corporations quickly adapting to my prices and leaving the casuals being cut completely out of the market game until they notice. So the other corporations adapt by offering competitive prices, but I already have another price drop in effect and in 24 hours my suits are now down to a mere 50,000 isk due to preplanning.
Very quickly this will devolve into people offering very similar prices in the manufacturing cost in the major trade hubs, and heavy price wars in other regions where the suits are much more rare due to a lack of manufacturers or being more exotic. The Navy Issue Scorpion is a perfect example of this. In Jita (the main trade hub) Every Caldari Scorp' is priced at about 322 million, with variances in only a few thousand ISK from each other, but only in places like Minmatar space (less demand due to less people knowing how to fly it, and it being more exotic, and less manufacturers, and knowing people will pay extra money to save trips so far by buying a Caldary BS in Minny space), it can range to about 400Million.
Nobody prices things at insane levels in EVE, as that is a great way to shoot yourself in the foot by wasting resources and sitting on a now-useless stockpile of garbage.
No EVE players are going to "band together" and pricehike, when it is every alliance/corp/player for his/herself trying to get an edge. Money is a massive motivator. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.23 18:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: In point of fact, a -lot- of people price things at insane levels in EVE. They just do it because every now and then someone will buy the item without looking, thus giving them a windfall of ISK for something not worth nearly that much. Which is also why, as I said, you should never buy from contracts.
I should also point out that common ISK scamming like this is not the majority of sells, and more power to the sharks who are the living enactment of "stupid people tax."
I do love the people who do not notice the extra three zeros and such on things, or don't research when buying very expensive rare items. |
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