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CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:24:00 - [1] - Quote I am running a heavey suit close to the prototype btw and all I want to know is: How is it possible for a player to still be allive and not die after I emptied one half round of HMG clip (over heating) and a full SMG clip. I guss I dont understand how their shields are so strong . New to the game so still learning all the mechanics and spec system. Right now on one of suites I have has a sheild regen above 50. but when it repairs, it repairs so slow, yet when I see this on an assault or even a scout suit its seems there regen is instantanious why? I have the following specs LVL 5 Shields LVL 5 Shield regen LVL 5 Repair system (IMO not worth the SP, repair rate is way to slow) Thanks for the replies if any. Sincerly, New Guy
ilafey 29	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:26:00 - [2] - Quote What were you shooting and what was the exact hmg.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:29:00 - [3] - Quote ilafey wrote: What were you shooting and what was the exact hmg. The HMG was the boundless HMG (prototype I think) and even the one you can purchase with AUR dont remember the name.
ilafey 29	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:30:00 - [4] - Quote What were you shooting at.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:30:00 - [5] - Quote Pulse your shots a bit, make sure they're center mass dont try for headshot unless the idiot is standing still then you climb up with it then. Also engage at standoff not point blank. Train up Heavy Accuracy a bit, also try to get to proficency of HMG this decreases heat build up significantly. Get weapons to 5 this will max out your damage a bit. Today I mowed down about 6 people in a row on one reload of the HMG near bravo. some spawners and way too many from charlie.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:32:00 - [6] - Quote ilafey wrote: What were you shooting at. A player on the other team I hope lol...
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:33:00 - [7] - Quote Base shield regen on a Heavy is TERRIBLE. My MILITIA Scout Suit has shield regen of almost 50 before I fit anything onto it. Proto with mods is insanely fast shield regen. And armour regen on the lighter suits will LOOK higher even though it's not, because for them, 2 HP of regen means almost 2% of their HP, while on a Heavy it's less than 0.3%.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:36:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Pulse your shots a bit, make sure they're center mass dont try for headshot unless the idiot is standing still then you climb up with it then. Also engage at standoff not point blank. Train up Heavy Accuracy a bit, also try to get to proficency of HMG this decreases heat build up significantly. Get weapons to 5 this will max out your damage a bit. Today I mowed down about 6 people in a row on one reload of the HMG near bravo. some spawners and way too many from charlie. Thanks Wolf!! Yeah that might be the problem I dont have to much SP into the accuracy ( but most of the time I engage when they are right in front of me if possible since I dont spring to often) The proficency is at LVL 2. Not sure what you mean by weapons? But I still dont understand how its possible for them to survive all that firepower
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:40:00 - [9] - Quote In the weapon skill catagory you have skill called 'weapons' this unlock access to more complciated weapons such as the forge gun and you should have 1 level of it already trained at least. Each level brings up damage by another 3%. If you still feel your HMG is not doing enough damage get the weapon upgrade modules for the suit, the heavy weapon type this is where trianing heavy weapon upgrades will do you some good there is also a tier 2 of each of the weapon 'size' and function skills so you can get a bit further with each group. Currently the HMG is pertty heavily nerfed it takes a bit to understand how to work with it a bit more now but you have to be a 'careful' heavy now a days get out in the open you'll just get murdered by long range shots you cant respond to.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:47:00 - [10] - Quote It's called "weaponry" not "weapons" but other than that, listen to Wolf.

CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:47:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: In the weapon skill catagory you have skill called 'weapons' this unlock access to more complciated weapons such as the forge gun and you should have 1 level of it already trained at least. Each level brings up damage by another 3%. If you still feel your HMG is not doing enough damage get the weapon upgrade modules for the suit, the heavy weapon type this is where trianing heavy weapon upgrades will do you some good there is also a tier 2 of each of the weapon 'size' and function skills so you can get a bit further with each group. Currently the HMG is pertty heavily nerfed it takes a bit to understand how to work with it a bit more now but you have to be a 'careful' heavy now a days get out in the open you'll just get murdered by long range shots you cant respond to. D/N I plan to stick with the heavy, and plan to be a somewhat unstopable player on the field. I will check my Skill books and make my changes accordinly. thanks, yet again wolf.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:49:00 - [12] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Base shield regen on a Heavy is TERRIBLE. My MILITIA Scout Suit has shield regen of almost 50 before I fit anything onto it. Proto with mods is insanely fast shield regen. And armour regen on the lighter suits will LOOK higher even though it's not, because for them, 2 HP of regen means almost 2% of their HP, while on a Heavy it's less than 0.3%. I wouldnt know this since I dont run assault at all.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:52:00 - [13] - Quote BTW my HMG is only lvl 2 basic and I had no weapon upgrades either. Center mass crawl up hurts alot for the idiots that love eating lead sandwitches.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:52:00 - [14] - Quote Thanks for the replies even if minimal, it helps to clear some things up!!
Relyt R Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2012.07.22 08:33:00 - [15] - Quote the gist of it is, you missed a lot, which is understandable as the HMG isn't terribly accurate, hit detection is still a bit off, lag ruins days, and the aim assist is incredibly unhelpful
First Prophet Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 35	Posted - 2012.07.22 10:03:00 - [16] - Quote Hey, you're the guy that sent me that rage mail. What's up, guy?
Renzo Kuken Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 369	Posted - 2012.07.22 10:19:00 - [17] - Quote CaW PHoNOi wrote: I am running a heavey suit close to the prototype btw and all I want to know is: How is it possible for a player to still be allive and not die after I emptied one half round of HMG clip (over heating) and a full SMG clip. I guss I dont understand how their shields are so strong . New to the game so still learning all the mechanics and spec system. Right now on one of suites I have has a sheild regen above 50. but when it repairs, it repairs so slow, yet when I see this on an assault or even a scout suit its seems there regen is instantanious why? I have the following specs LVL 5 Shields LVL 5 Shield regen LVL 5 Repair system (IMO not worth the SP, repair rate is way to slow) Thanks for the replies if any. Sincerly, New Guy its called a mag not a clip that is all
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.07.22 11:20:00 - [18] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Hey, you're the guy that sent me that rage mail. What's up, guy? yea, he used to be my friend on PSN for the longest time. then he gets in Dust, sends me hate mail and removes me as friend. so i now enjoy killing him in game when i can. i hate heavy suits period, take a lot of bullets for me to take them down.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.07.23 08:01:00 - [19] - Quote Renzo Kuken wrote: CaW PHoNOi wrote: I am running a heavey suit close to the prototype btw and all I want to know is: How is it possible for a player to still be allive and not die after I emptied one half round of HMG clip (over heating) and a full SMG clip. I guss I dont understand how their shields are so strong . New to the game so still learning all the mechanics and spec system. Right now on one of suites I have has a sheild regen above 50. but when it repairs, it repairs so slow, yet when I see this on an assault or even a scout suit its seems there regen is instantanious why? I have the following specs LVL 5 Shields LVL 5 Shield regen LVL 5 Repair system (IMO not worth the SP, repair rate is way to slow) Thanks for the replies if any. Sincerly, New Guy its called a mag not a clip that is all In this case its a drum or a belt.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.07.23 08:08:00 - [20] - Quote I cant take on heavy guys at all. Seems allways like if they can eat bullets like nothing.

Jose the Destroya Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.07.23 08:13:00 - [21] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: I cant take on heavy guys at all. Seems allways like if they can eat bullets like nothing. You have to learn to run circles around them.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:27:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Renzo Kuken wrote: its called a mag not a clip that is all In this case its a drum or a belt. Drum is arguable. Drum MAGAZINE is stil a magazine, and can be abbreviated to mag or drum.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.07.23 12:59:00 - [23] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Base shield regen on a Heavy is TERRIBLE. My MILITIA Scout Suit has shield regen of almost 50 before I fit anything onto it. Proto with mods is insanely fast shield regen. And armour regen on the lighter suits will LOOK higher even though it's not, because for them, 2 HP of regen means almost 2% of their HP, while on a Heavy it's less than 0.3%. yup with like 800+ armor heavies regen armor at such a slow pace with armor rep mods this is where a logibro comes into play and a party system cuz once its implemented heavies will be alot tougher to take down if they got a logibro reppin their armor for them with the lack of party system u find other suits able to easily keep their distance and kite the heavy and chip away at their armor slowly and since other suits actually have better shields and shield regen they can chip and regen rinse and repeat., or get up close with a shotty for maximum carnage
Cyn Bruin 90	Posted - 2012.07.23 13:07:00 - [24] - Quote Well another thing it could be is HIT DETECTION. Either I've become a worse shot or this part of the game (whole part) became more broke. While it might look like your hitting the guy, his shield makes that graphic, it still doesnt detect the shot. This has been a problem in previous builds, thought it was getting better, but idk anymore. Had this happen last night, emptied 44 shots into a guy and think I hit him 3x maybe and his shield graphic was lighting up throughout the clip.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.23 23:23:00 - [25] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Hey, you're the guy that sent me that rage mail. What's up, guy? My mail was not RAGE mail as you call it. just reminding you of your cheap RE kills, I work hard on getting my suit up to par for a cheap player like you to just come around the corner throw RE like a Frisbee at me and kill me instantly. Half if not most of the time I have encountered you its what you do, I dont think you have ever beat me at a gun fight.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.23 23:25:00 - [26] - Quote CaW PHoNOi wrote: I am running a heavey suit close to the prototype btw and all I want to know is: How is it possible for a player to still be allive and not die after I emptied one half round of HMG clip (over heating) and a full SMG clip. I guss I dont understand how their shields are so strong . New to the game so still learning all the mechanics and spec system. Right now on one of suites I have has a sheild regen above 50. but when it repairs, it repairs so slow, yet when I see this on an assault or even a scout suit its seems there regen is instantanious why? I have the following specs LVL 5 Shields LVL 5 Shield regen LVL 5 Repair system (IMO not worth the SP, repair rate is way to slow) Thanks for the replies if any. Sincerly, New Guy because the HMG sucks (take it up with CCP, i feel it needs to be fixed myself, but it does suck...) and your buffing shield skills on a suit that gets like 90% of it's health from armor.
CaW PHoNOi Doomheim 7	Posted - 2012.07.23 23:27:00 - [27] - Quote Ima Leet wrote: First Prophet wrote: Hey, you're the guy that sent me that rage mail. What's up, guy? yea, he used to be my friend on PSN for the longest time. then he gets in Dust, sends me hate mail and removes me as friend. so i now enjoy killing him in game when i can. i hate heavy suits period, take a lot of bullets for me to take them down. Yup, thats right I dont need PSN friends who exploit flaws in a game. You have killed me very little times and most of the times I have just wiped three or four guys and you always seem to catch me with low health. Dont worry man, I am not saying your not good it just pisses me off that you would join the bandwagon of cheap players that I want no part of.
Maken Tosch 263	Posted - 2012.07.23 23:30:00 - [28] - Quote It is very likely that some of the people you were shooting at were being assisted by a logistics merc equipt with a repair tool and hidden from view. I have done that several times for my friendly heavies and I have save countless lives at the expense of my own if I was discovered.
HowDidThatTaste 461	Posted - 2012.07.23 23:40:00 - [29] - Quote Buzzwords wrote: CaW PHoNOi wrote: I am running a heavey suit close to the prototype btw and all I want to know is: How is it possible for a player to still be allive and not die after I emptied one half round of HMG clip (over heating) and a full SMG clip. I guss I dont understand how their shields are so strong . New to the game so still learning all the mechanics and spec system. Right now on one of suites I have has a sheild regen above 50. but when it repairs, it repairs so slow, yet when I see this on an assault or even a scout suit its seems there regen is instantanious why? I have the following specs LVL 5 Shields LVL 5 Shield regen LVL 5 Repair system (IMO not worth the SP, repair rate is way to slow) Thanks for the replies if any. Sincerly, New Guy because the HMG sucks (take it up with CCP, i feel it needs to be fixed myself, but it does suck...) and your buffing shield skills on a suit that gets like 90% of it's health from armor. It took me awhile with the proto suit and skills to figure out what really helps is putting two armor repair units to your suit the shield regenerates rather good on its own but the armor let's you live after a battle before the next one. So skill up maximum armor points for suit and add 2 10% armor repair modulas and you will repair at a nice rate.
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.24 00:28:00 - [30] - Quote CaW PHoNOi wrote: Ima Leet wrote: First Prophet wrote: Hey, you're the guy that sent me that rage mail. What's up, guy? yea, he used to be my friend on PSN for the longest time. then he gets in Dust, sends me hate mail and removes me as friend. so i now enjoy killing him in game when i can. i hate heavy suits period, take a lot of bullets for me to take them down. Yup, thats right I dont need PSN friends who exploit flaws in a game. You have killed me very little times and most of the times I have just wiped three or four guys and you always seem to catch me with low health. Dont worry man, I am not saying your not good it just pisses me off that you would join the bandwagon of cheap players that I want no part of. LOL cheap players... right, and a prototype heavy suit can be modded to have over 1600 HP. You are complaining about REs but they are getting severly nerfed thanks to my thread. I've been abusing REs like crazy the last 2 weekends to make sure people don't forget how bad they were, because they will virtually disappear next patch. My prototype SMG does 57 damage per shot with lvl 5 weapon and SMG operation, It would take half a mag to finish off a proto heavy if I hit most of my shots. I strafe circles around heavys all day every day, but why not throw down an RE and watch them fly sky high instead of dancing around them wasting half a mag and giving their team mate enough time to jump in and interfere. Next patch when REs are nerfed and you won't be able to complain about them, just don't come crying when your turning speed is to slow to keeps up with a skilled assault or scout player. EDIT: Reason for my response is because I've also received hate mail from this gentleman.



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