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Zeran Haggai
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.21 17:11:00 -
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Adun Red wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Adun Red wrote:jenza aranda wrote:4 complex armour reps on a proto assault suit is actually quite powerful Saying that it takes 4 armor reps to do it kinda proves my point IMO. You have to take into account if you're buffing the armor reps that you should not make four armor reps on a assault suit overpowered. Buffing them by simply increasing the hp/s would make those four on the assault suit overpowered in my opinion. Make fitting reqs to where ya can not use 4 at same time but make them useful IMO.
They pretty much do this already in the form of stacking penalties. Each consecutive mod of the same type becomes less effective, off the top of my head the numbers go something like this
1- 100%
2-87%
3-50%
4-28%
so more than 2 is kind of questionable in terms of effectiveness, and 4 is just a waste of a slot really.
Now that being said, i agree the dropsuit reps are a bit underpowered atm, especially for a heavy who's only option is to armor tank. The problem is, they way they work now, if you increas the armor/s too much then it becomes OP on the higher shield/shield recharge assault and scout suits. My personal solution would be to make the rep's % based. so instead of 5 points of armor per second you could do like 2%/s. In this way it would be balanced in that all classes would rep to 100% in the same amount of time, and it would give people who want to armor tank a viable way to recover HP after a tough battle. As it stands now, as a heavy if i wan't to rep back any meaningful amount of armor i gotta spend 2-3 min hiding out. Meanwhile shield tanking Assault and Scout suits can disengage combat and rep shields in a matter of seconds. |
Zeran Haggai
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
196
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Posted - 2012.07.21 17:59:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:When you're down to taking armour damage, you need to take cover (unless you're full armour tanked with 4 reps on a Proto Assault, as mentioned.
Or you need a repair tool. I haven't tested it myself, but a few people have said that you can repair yourself with them, so if that's legit, pick one up.
Not possible for a heavy, no slot for it. We only have 130 base shield and 15 shield recharge, armor is all we got. If I retreat everytime I start taking armor damage, I'll never fight. |
Zeran Haggai
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
196
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Posted - 2012.07.21 18:30:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I haven't played enough as a Heavy... I forgot you guys don't get equipment slots.
Yeah, being unable to effectively armour tank as the class that's built for it would kind of suck.
I'll agree on this.
Or maybe when we start seeing special gear for each suit (NOT exclusive, but with huge PG/CPU requirements and huge bonuses to equipping on the intended suit type), there will be some Heavy Armour Repairers that are difficult to equip on anything but a Heavy. That way, the current Reppers are fine because they're balanced for the lighter suits, but if you want more, there's an option for you.
I'm not really familiar with all the types of gear available in EvE, but if that kind of stuff is going to be available in Dust then maybe the current reps are fine. I hope we get all the gear that's going to be available soon, not having all the options present makes discussing balance difficult/borderline pointless. Then again at this stage of beta gear balance isn't the main focus so i suppose we just need to be patient and let them get us to a stage where we can accurately judge. |
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