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Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.20 10:25:00 -
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Everyone hates people who steal tank/dropship and drive them away with or without you and most of the time they end up killing you and your vehicle.
I came up with an idea to solve such problem i call it Force Switch. How it works?
pressing and holding the Triangle button will insta-put you on the driver seat if you where for example in a dropship passenger seat or a tank turret seat and this only works if you are the owner of the vehicle.
This way if a noob stole your tank you can just enter it and hold Triangle to force your way to the drive seat and the noob will take your previous seat. This also will help dropship pilots to switch quickly from the gunner seat to the driver seat if you were alone on your dropship and as all of you know switching from a gunner to the driver seat takes times cause you have to go through all seats which is stupid imo.
If anyone has other suggestion or tweak feel free to add it
cheers^^
EDIT: Thanks to Chihiro Itto and Garrett Blacknova for there valuable feedback on this matter, so i added it to my OP below:
Chihiro Itto wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:5 - 10 second lockout to anyone but the player who called the vehicle when it first arrives. 10 - 20 second lockout from the driver's position AND ONLY THE DRIVER'S POSITION when the owner HOLDS the exit button instead of tapping it. While in the vehicle in any position, the own can reclaim the driver's seat by pressing and holding triangle.
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2. If there's nobody in the vehicle, or at least nobody in the driver's seat, it's fair game. BUT if the owner of the vehicle (WHO IS YOUR ALLY) comes along and asks for their stuff back, it's reasonable to expect it, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLIES. Also, because you don't have to hack friendly vehicles, you're leaving the computer systems in their initial state, meaning the owner of the vehicle can be reasonably expected to have an override code built into their suit which lets them take control. ... and if the owner dies then the override code goes team-wide and anyone can take control of the vehicle. (Conceivably your team could defend or relinquish it back to the owner when they respawn. The reclaim driver seat option could also continue regardless of death, as long as the vehicle is intact). Sounds like a plan to me.  EDIT: the 5-10 second initial lockout should also be driver's position only, and although non-essential it would be good to hear say three bleeps to count down the end of your 10-20 second lockout period. Like I said, non-essential but fair warning. |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:00:00 -
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ILLUMIKNIGHT Martinez wrote:It seems like a reasonable idea. Just one thing that needs to be clarified. This is gonna sound stupid but will you be able to do this on your veichle that YOU have ordered right?
yeah this only works if you are the owner of the vehicle, i mean you can't enter someone tank and take over it |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.20 23:20:00 -
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@gangsta sometimes you need to get out to fix your vehicle or capture objective, you shouldn't be tied to the feat of losing your vehicle to your passengers!
@panosacpe yup millions of isk are being lost this way and its frustrating |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 10:53:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:1)So if the enemy gets out of their vehicle we shouldn't be able to hack it then because it's theirs correct.
2)Or if there is no one in it it is fair game enemy or not.
^which statement sounds correct^ 1. Enemy vehicles DON'T let you just hop in. They prevent you from doing so, which is WHY you have to hack them. 2. There's nobody there, or there's only a gunner, fair game to start driving, but if the owner finds it, he's going to ask for his stuff back. If he's not an enemy (i.e you didn't hack it), you're going to give it back, because he's not an enemy. And you didn't hack it, so he has override access and you don't.
i agree with Garrett, i mean you spent SP, ISK and time to get your tank so you should have some control over it |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 11:54:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:tank drivers gonna agree with tank drivers, merks gonna agree with merks
next somone will say im a merk and support this
btw am not a tank/dropship driver, I am a heavy with HMG but i understand where are you coming from and its true |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 11:58:00 -
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zekina zek wrote:but what about that annoying guy on your team with the militia tank on the tower blasting away at the MCC with the Gunner turret?? your saying you wouldnt jump in that tank and roll it off the tower?? 
lol i know though its less annoying than enemy dropship blasting us from there |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 14:48:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:This should only work like you said if there is no one in the driver seat . But if someone took your seat it's your problem it is nobodys fault but yours. You shouldn't be able to force someone out of a seat because you got out of it. Bull****, I'm 100% merc, but if and when I order a frigg'n piece of equipment to the battlefield, I damn well want interlocks on it so I can use it for the mission I intended it for, not so I can donate it to some noob who is too clueless to know bettter or some moron who works against his own teammates. Great idea, OP, +1. Howeveeeeerrrr.......for consistency, if we can hack enemy ships and hop in and use them, then it kinda makes sense that we can hack freindly ships and hop in and use them. I really like your idea, it feels 'right', but I think we need to find a way to make it fit the game. Maybe hacking and stealing a merc's deployables automatically deducts the isk/AUR from his pocket and puts it back in yours. If he doesn't have the isk/AUR to pay for it then he can hack it just to be a prick, but he can't use it. This is just my idea, I don't really like it tbqh, I'd like somebody to come up with a better one. Also, I'd like the ability to order equipment to the field and GIVE it to a teammate.
am glad you like the idea.
we still can use our teammates tank/dropship like usual the only differences is that now the owner can force his way to the driver seat if he wanted so the consistency is still there, anyway thanks for the addition its up to CCP to choose/combine/tweak our ideas and implement such system |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 15:46:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:+ 1 OP this needs to be in.
Might spend the coming weeks just stealing tanks and dieing like a bad noob. I'm a very very bad tank dirver.
Might get enuf to rage to get em in here
it worked for the swarm launcher  |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 20:33:00 -
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yeah sorry for the confusion i posted there to get feedback because not many visit this section of the forums, btw i add your's and Blacknova's suggestions to my OP i hope you don't mind.
Thanks for the support and i hope CCP will take this into there consideration. |
Darky SI
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Posted - 2012.07.21 21:09:00 -
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Mo Gallas Gentralde wrote:
ugh am bad at searching for key word threads, thanks for the link man your post have good potential.
I came a cross a lot of good ideas (Mr Vito included) to fix this, CCP have no excuse for not implementing similar system  |
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