DUST Search - When will I hit paydirt?

Aighun wrote:

Yes, this is a real post. Insofar as amount of SPGÇª was going to log on just to see where I am but dang if it isn't Monday evening. But last I looked was sitting on around 7,300,000 SP. The ten million was an exaggeration. But who doesn't exaggerate on the internet? KDR is around .37. War points maybe 36,000? Kills around 800?

Nothing in the OP is made up. I seem to be working my ass off in this Beta. Trying hard and harder still. And the best that can be said is that I have so far managed to not embarrass myself in a fair few matches.

Sure, my skill training is all over the place. Had a plan. Couldn't ever buy electronics upgrades. Decided to branch out. But I know how to fit out a dropsuit to within an inch of the max CPU PG. And enough to try to max out all the passive as well as active damage boosts for any given weapon type. Last build I came in toward the tail end and made a few different characters so never really maxed out anything. This build I decided to focus on one character. And max out everything I possibly could.

I usually don't play to win the leader boards. But sometimes I try like hell to crack the top three and haven't ever done it. Well, maybe twice. But that was more luck and a fluke of match making.

And I kind of feel let down. By all the posts I've read that have assured me that I would be winning like a king with all the sp I've managed to grind. And my RPG expectations that promise me god-like powers with maxed out stats. Just isn't happening.

So no, I am not making kittens up just to mess around on the forum for no good reason.

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Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:52:00 - [1] - Quote I seem to have a problem. A very serious problem. I have recently had time on my hands and some extra money. I have been grinding the Beta like there is no tomorrow and have accumulated almost 10,000,000 sp. I've figured out enough of the system to be able to boost the proper skills for assault rifle about as high as they will go and I got me a Creodon Breach AR. I buy the best AUR items whenever I feel they will give me an edge. So when am I going to start seeing those 20 plus kill games? The best I've done is maybe 6/4. I have the winningest combination of gear I know of, but I still feel like I am working my butt off every round of skirmish or ambush just to stay in the game and not let my team down. Seriously, what is wrong with this game? My enemies should just fall over dead when I saunter by. But like I said it is just not stop running, pointing the reticle and clicking R1 as fast and as furiously as I can. The other day I was in a match of ambush with a guy that went 7/2 using just the militia assault rifle. Dude even killed me twice. How is that even possible? (On a more serious note, squad leader commands with a good team on mic are the best thing ever. Tagged a tank with the defend marker and my squad rode around WWII style for half a match raking in the SP. And our team won the skirmish. Good times, good times. When we gonna see that command dropsuit go live?)
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:55:00 - [2] - Quote SOONGäó
Cless Vallein Teknomen 37	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:55:00 - [3] - Quote I gotta say it's probably your play style. I run around with a forge gun and a skm9 sub machine gun most of the time and am usually in the upper teens to low twenties on kills and single digit deaths.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:56:00 - [4] - Quote Probably need a better dropsuit or your enemies have better equipment than you.
Zev Caldari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:57:00 - [5] - Quote omg I know! I have the best sniper skills in the game and guess what? They don't help me aim better! Why do these stupid people keep running around? Why don't my uber 1337 sniper skills make me auto-headshot every time I press R1? WHY NOT?!
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:58:00 - [6] - Quote Aighun wrote: I seem to have a problem. A very serious problem. I have recently had time on my hands and some extra money. I have been grinding the Beta like there is no tomorrow and have accumulated almost 10,000,000 sp. I've figured out enough of the system to be able to boost the proper skills for assault rifle about as high as they will go and I got me a Creodon Breach AR. I buy the best AUR items whenever I feel they will give me an edge. So when am I going to start seeing those 20 plus kill games? The best I've done is maybe 6/4. I have the winningest combination of gear I know of, but I still feel like I am working my butt off every round of skirmish or ambush just to stay in the game and not let my team down. Seriously, what is wrong with this game? My enemies should just fall over dead when I saunter by. But like I said it is just not stop running, pointing the reticle and clicking R1 as fast and as furiously as I can. The other day I was in a match of ambush with a guy that went 7/2 using just the militia assault rifle. Dude even killed me twice. How is that even possible? (On a more serious note, squad leader commands with a good team on mic are the best thing ever. Tagged a tank with the defend marker and my squad rode around WWII style for half a match raking in the SP. And our team won the skirmish. Good times, good times. When we gonna see that command dropsuit go live?) not sure if serious
Vetis Cato Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 250	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:02:00 - [7] - Quote thats the mmo talking. fps says tactics means everything. sp gets you the gear, skills shows you how to use it. i always finish with a high teens kill score. i always follow one rule at least. play for the objectives. theres objectives on the field for a reason. there like beacons for gamers. dont get cocky, no kill is an easy kill. then simply always second guess where your enemy will be. if you know there at objective A, your teams taking B (usuing your map is always key) its not hard to guess which direction there going to come in from. players always go for the route with the shortest distance. but most importantly be a team player, 2 people will always over power one (unless they are really stupid)
Danfen Stark Algintal Core Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:02:00 - [8] - Quote This doesnt sound like a case of your equipment to me tbh... (sorry) I only use a Type 2 suit & advanced gear at most, yet I quite regularly hit the upper end of the board, usually looking around 10-15/2-8. Remember as well that, as per another thread also discussing this...the cost of your suit has little relation to how 'good' it is once everything is balanced right, even less so in a game where personal skill is just as much as a factor. If someone is better at aiming at your head then you are at theirs, then they have a massive 'damage bonus' over you.
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:04:00 - [9] - Quote Aighun wrote: I seem to have a problem. A very serious problem. I have recently had time on my hands and some extra money. I have been grinding the Beta like there is no tomorrow and have accumulated almost 10,000,000 sp. I've figured out enough of the system to be able to boost the proper skills for assault rifle about as high as they will go and I got me a Creodon Breach AR. I buy the best AUR items whenever I feel they will give me an edge. So when am I going to start seeing those 20 plus kill games? The best I've done is maybe 6/4. I have the winningest combination of gear I know of, but I still feel like I am working my butt off every round of skirmish or ambush just to stay in the game and not let my team down. Seriously, what is wrong with this game? My enemies should just fall over dead when I saunter by. But like I said it is just not stop running, pointing the reticle and clicking R1 as fast and as furiously as I can. The other day I was in a match of ambush with a guy that went 7/2 using just the militia assault rifle. Dude even killed me twice. How is that even possible? (On a more serious note, squad leader commands with a good team on mic are the best thing ever. Tagged a tank with the defend marker and my squad rode around WWII style for half a match raking in the SP. And our team won the skirmish. Good times, good times. When we gonna see that command dropsuit go live?) WELCOME TO EVE GOOD JOB !!!!!!! """YOU JUST GOT DONE WITH THE NEW-BE MEAT SUIT SWIM IN THE POOL OF SHARKS !!! NOW WITH YOUR MEAT SUIT ON ITS TIME FOR THE T-REX TO HAVE A GO AT YOU ! ENJOY YOUR RUN !!! AND AFTER THAT ITS OFF TO THE RAPTOR CAGE MACH !!!"""
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:07:00 - [10] - Quote LMFAO Pay to win = wrong Grind to win = wrong SP>skill = wrong Gear>skill = wrong Skill>all = Right Well OP tbh you need to have some skill at FPS to begin with, its not a pay to win game and AUR doesnt means your getting better stuff than ISK items Also look at your playstyle

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:11:00 - [11] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0YVzyge8Ks It's advice about Assassin's Creed, but it's applicable here too. You need to run more. And if you stay at ground level for too long, you will randomly fall over dead. Stop doing that. It's not good for your stats, because K/D is all that matters. If your team loses, it's always everyone else's fault. I mean, you have a Prototype weapon, right? How could you possibly be the one making mistakes? That would mean the game actually allows for some measure of player skill to be relevant to the results! Since when have VIDEOGAMES needed people to PAY ATTENTION! Grind out your stuff, and you've already won. But don't stop running.
Superluminal Replicant 40	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:13:00 - [12] - Quote Zev Caldari wrote: omg I know! I have the best sniper skills in the game and guess what? They don't help me aim better! Why do these stupid people keep running around? Why don't my uber 1337 sniper skills make me auto-headshot every time I press R1? WHY NOT?! Lol "Auto-headshot" That made me laugh. We need Fallout 3's VATS. Also sniping a sniper with my forge gun are my favorite kills.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:30:00 - [13] - Quote AUR purchasable items only allow you to have access to a certain grade earlier in most cases, and when it comes to AUR grade proto-type gear all it does is allow you to have access to lower CPU, and PG (Power Grid) consumption items which in the end are not going to make a difference if you the PC (Player Character) invest in the right skills that will both lower the consumption of the item in question, and maximize the output specs of your suit. AUR items in the end are nothing short of superfluous. In another series of posts and comments I have made though if people actually took the time to do some basic math; they'd find that statistically even the basic militia gear when enhanced by skills, and modules is comparable to advanced gear. The problem with the current build though is the lack of function. Sub-par frame rate, lag latencey, mediocore hit detection, and other in-game algorithims that seem to not function properly (always) in-game.
Pezz IsDank Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:35:00 - [14] - Quote Aighun wrote: I seem to have a problem. A very serious problem. I have recently had time on my hands and some extra money. I have been grinding the Beta like there is no tomorrow and have accumulated almost 10,000,000 sp. I've figured out enough of the system to be able to boost the proper skills for assault rifle about as high as they will go and I got me a Creodon Breach AR. I buy the best AUR items whenever I feel they will give me an edge. So when am I going to start seeing those 20 plus kill games? The best I've done is maybe 6/4. I have the winningest combination of gear I know of, but I still feel like I am working my butt off every round of skirmish or ambush just to stay in the game and not let my team down. Seriously, what is wrong with this game? My enemies should just fall over dead when I saunter by. But like I said it is just not stop running, pointing the reticle and clicking R1 as fast and as furiously as I can. The other day I was in a match of ambush with a guy that went 7/2 using just the militia assault rifle. Dude even killed me twice. How is that even possible? (On a more serious note, squad leader commands with a good team on mic are the best thing ever. Tagged a tank with the defend marker and my squad rode around WWII style for half a match raking in the SP. And our team won the skirmish. Good times, good times. When we gonna see that command dropsuit go live?) Ah hah, yah I had a hard time believing that someone could have 10 mil SP and still not break 20 kills.
VigSniper101 204	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:59:00 - [15] - Quote Accept for Pez...l have to ask, were you guys born yesterday?
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:09:00 - [16] - Quote No Mainly because i have seen some really really bad players with top gear
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:12:00 - [17] - Quote VigSniper101 wrote: Accept for Pez...l have to ask, were you guys born yesterday? Yes, i was reborn yesterday like 50 times.. Damn those deaths of mine >.>
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:13:00 - [18] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: VigSniper101 wrote: Accept for Pez...l have to ask, were you guys born yesterday? Yes, i was reborn yesterday like 50 times.. Damn those deaths of mine >.> Made me laugh. Plus one to you, Sir.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:15:00 - [19] - Quote VigSniper101 wrote: Accept for Pez...l have to ask, were you guys born yesterday? You spelt "except" wrong, and missed "and obliviondoll" after "Pez" - or you didn't actually pay attention to my "advice"
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:16:00 - [20] - Quote I have over 12mil sp, and most of the time I am well under 20kills. I don't use vehicles, and I'm more worried about hacking then kills. I also spend a lot time hunting dropships with swarm, no kills since they bailout. Use mainly scout suit, or assualt-II played like a slower scout. So, play style results in me being on wp leaderboard, with a .62k/d. Recent matches have had been over 1k/d, I blame the new players in militia heavy trying to hit me at 10m with swarm as I fire proto breach smg for boosting my k/d. They will figure out not to do that soon, I hope.

Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:20:00 - [21] - Quote Gear doesn't mean skill, it only helps you survive a little longer until you can get better. Good players can take militia gear and do far better than average with it. I doubt this is a real post, but for those new players who are curious, you do need real skill to do well. Even in a Sagaris or proto dropsuit. It's just easier.
Pezz IsDank Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:26:00 - [22] - Quote Rhadiem wrote: Gear doesn't mean skill, it only helps you survive a little longer until you can get better. Good players can take militia gear and do far better than average with it. I doubt this is a real post, but for those new players who are curious, you do need real skill to do well. Even in a Sagaris or proto dropsuit. It's just easier. Just like how a gun helps you kill people.
Ender Storm Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:05:00 - [23] - Quote Aighun wrote: I seem to have a problem. A very serious problem. I have recently had time on my hands and some extra money. I have been grinding the Beta like there is no tomorrow and have accumulated almost 10,000,000 sp. I've figured out enough of the system to be able to boost the proper skills for assault rifle about as high as they will go and I got me a Creodon Breach AR. I buy the best AUR items whenever I feel they will give me an edge. So when am I going to start seeing those 20 plus kill games? The best I've done is maybe 6/4. I have the winningest combination of gear I know of, but I still feel like I am working my butt off every round of skirmish or ambush just to stay in the game and not let my team down. Seriously, what is wrong with this game? My enemies should just fall over dead when I saunter by. But like I said it is just not stop running, pointing the reticle and clicking R1 as fast and as furiously as I can. The other day I was in a match of ambush with a guy that went 7/2 using just the militia assault rifle. Dude even killed me twice. How is that even possible? (On a more serious note, squad leader commands with a good team on mic are the best thing ever. Tagged a tank with the defend marker and my squad rode around WWII style for half a match raking in the SP. And our team won the skirmish. Good times, good times. When we gonna see that command dropsuit go live?) IMO its working as intended. Having top gear should not mean insane victory count.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.07.17 00:12:00 - [24] - Quote Yes, this is a real post. Insofar as amount of SPGÇª was going to log on just to see where I am but dang if it isn't Monday evening. But last I looked was sitting on around 7,300,000 SP. The ten million was an exaggeration. But who doesn't exaggerate on the internet? KDR is around .37. War points maybe 36,000? Kills around 800? Nothing in the OP is made up. I seem to be working my ass off in this Beta. Trying hard and harder still. And the best that can be said is that I have so far managed to not embarrass myself in a fair few matches. Sure, my skill training is all over the place. Had a plan. Couldn't ever buy electronics upgrades. Decided to branch out. But I know how to fit out a dropsuit to within an inch of the max CPU PG. And enough to try to max out all the passive as well as active damage boosts for any given weapon type. Last build I came in toward the tail end and made a few different characters so never really maxed out anything. This build I decided to focus on one character. And max out everything I possibly could. I usually don't play to win the leader boards. But sometimes I try like hell to crack the top three and haven't ever done it. Well, maybe twice. But that was more luck and a fluke of match making. And I kind of feel let down. By all the posts I've read that have assured me that I would be winning like a king with all the sp I've managed to grind. And my RPG expectations that promise me god-like powers with maxed out stats. Just isn't happening. So no, I am not making kittens up just to mess around on the forum for no good reason.
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.07.17 00:23:00 - [25] - Quote considering a match is often like 3 minutes long 6 kills not too bad
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.17 00:56:00 - [26] - Quote There are 2 major aspects to getting more kills: Finding an enemy Killing an enemy We're all gods here. If everyone else were mortals then we'd be able to eat through them and use their small bones for toothpicks. If you're playing to go toe to toe with opponents make sure to move with one of your squad mates so that you can double the damage being dealt to your opponent. As it stands you must be sneaky and strike down your opponent before they have a chance to fight back or you risk a brief relapse into mortality before your eternal soul finds solace in flesh again.
Arceus Evoxazon Hikahotaru 119	Posted - 2012.07.17 01:05:00 - [27] - Quote I have over 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 SP, but I don't know what to do with it. I have all the skills at max and all the best equipment but I can never seem to get my Kills in a match. I keep going 1/12000. Why am I losing so hard? I mean, I'm just sitting still. Why are people shooting me?
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.07.17 01:36:00 - [28] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: considering a match is often like 3 minutes long 6 kills not too bad Yeah, that is where the "fake " part of the post comes in to play. Or parody, satire, call it what you will. I am usually like, "Heck yes! Six kills!" I have had more 0 and 12 games than I would care to admit. I am finding the game to be fairly well balanced, all things considered. I feel my load out making a difference, and that I am not being punished for dedicating a lot of time and AUR to the game. Even though some of the requirements for top gear are fairly steep and takes days and some patience to save up enough skill points to use, it seems worthwhile. At the same time I never feel like a jerk for using my most OP fitting. And to me it is a good and positive thing that a player, even if not the most coordinated, perhaps not so fast with the reflexes, can improve enough both through grinding for gear and just practice (the two go hand in hand, at least for me) to make a good contribution to their team. Even as a grunt. Without having to go the non-combat role route. EnglishSnake wrote: ... Well OP tbh you need to have some skill at FPS to begin with, its not a pay to win game and AUR doesnt means your getting better stuff than ISK items I have been doing my best to prove otherwise (using myself as a test case) but at this point I would have to agree with you.
Mic McCoy Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2012.07.17 01:58:00 - [29] - Quote Aighun wrote: Yes, this is a real post. Insofar as amount of SPGÇª was going to log on just to see where I am but dang if it isn't Monday evening. But last I looked was sitting on around 7,300,000 SP. The ten million was an exaggeration. But who doesn't exaggerate on the internet? KDR is around .37. War points maybe 36,000? Kills around 800? Nothing in the OP is made up. I seem to be working my ass off in this Beta. Trying hard and harder still. And the best that can be said is that I have so far managed to not embarrass myself in a fair few matches. Sure, my skill training is all over the place. Had a plan. Couldn't ever buy electronics upgrades. Decided to branch out. But I know how to fit out a dropsuit to within an inch of the max CPU PG. And enough to try to max out all the passive as well as active damage boosts for any given weapon type. Last build I came in toward the tail end and made a few different characters so never really maxed out anything. This build I decided to focus on one character. And max out everything I possibly could. I usually don't play to win the leader boards. But sometimes I try like hell to crack the top three and haven't ever done it. Well, maybe twice. But that was more luck and a fluke of match making. And I kind of feel let down. By all the posts I've read that have assured me that I would be winning like a king with all the sp I've managed to grind. And my RPG expectations that promise me god-like powers with maxed out stats. Just isn't happening. So no, I am not making kittens up just to mess around on the forum for no good reason. One thing you are not taking into consideration is your skill in using the game. Me? I suck at FPS. I suck the balls for sure. Im almost always in the bottom two spots with 0-2 kills and 10+ deaths. The thing is, I know its me, not the game or skill points. This is the first FPS Ive played since golden eye and I was crap at it too. If you like we can hook up in a match some time and die together!
Icy Tiger 496	Posted - 2012.07.17 02:09:00 - [30] - Quote You guys do realize this was a sarcastic post right?



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