DUST Search - PVE !! LETS DO IT !!!

Zero Harpuia wrote:

Geirskoegul wrote:

Am I the only one that facedesked when reading "rogue MTACs" suggested?

For those that don't know, MTACs are powered armour (think Starship Troopers the book, MAX units in PlanetSide, the "forklift" in Aliens), not automated remote devices.

While this doesn't rule out NPC MTACs as an enemy, "rogue MTAC" makes about as much sense as "rogue shuttle" or "rogue cruiser." The whole concept of rogue drones is that drones, as AI-controlled remote DRONES, can go rogue and stop obeying the commands of their owner. It doesn't make sense applied elsewhere...

Actually, Rogue Drones are a failed experiment to create an AI replacement for a capsuleer and/or crew and gained a level of sentience, capable of hijacking other ships and reproducing themselves for other roles, so it only needs to be taken a logical step further to make them be capable of running armorsuits and even dropsuits.

If that doesn't suit you, a rogue MTAC could be an NPC who stole the MTAC and went rogue. The word still works.

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BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:10:00 - [1] - Quote COME ON CCP WILL WE HAVE SOME RATS TO KILL AND LOOT WHEN NOT ONLINE OR IN PVP ???
Nexus Cavor KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:15:00 - [2] - Quote If my Sansha standing drops any lower it will create a black hole from where I will never return...
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:19:00 - [3] - Quote WOOHHHH!!! LETS GO TO WAR!! on those Drones :D
SirWinsAlot Algintal Core Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:24:00 - [4] - Quote This could actually work in this game!! They can make it like Borderlands with the randomized drops that benefit your character. BOSS FIGHTS ANYONE?
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote SirWinsAlot wrote: This could actually work in this game!! They can make it like Borderlands with the randomized drops that benefit your character. BOSS FIGHTS ANYONE? Hay ! any one want to run Blood Raiders Blockade LV 4????
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:41:00 - [6] - Quote come on ccp add it RATS GOT LOOT !
Nexus Cavor KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:44:00 - [7] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: SirWinsAlot wrote: This could actually work in this game!! They can make it like Borderlands with the randomized drops that benefit your character. BOSS FIGHTS ANYONE? Hay ! any one want to run Blood Raiders Blockade LV 4???? I prefer Worlds Collide because I am a sucker for painful travel times...
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:45:00 - [8] - Quote Nexus Cavor wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: SirWinsAlot wrote: This could actually work in this game!! They can make it like Borderlands with the randomized drops that benefit your character. BOSS FIGHTS ANYONE? Hay ! any one want to run Blood Raiders Blockade LV 4???? I prefer Worlds Collide because I am a sucker for painful travel times... ya dog lag is rufff lol

CCP Frame Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 351	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:48:00 - [9] - Quote Let's see... If you have specific feedback/requests or suggestions on the PVE side of things please post a little bit more constructively. Thank you!

Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.16 03:57:00 - [10] - Quote I'd love to see rogue MTACs before we get to use them. Something to "inspire" development in the R&D department rather than letting it be a hotpatch.

Zero Harpuia Maverick Conflict Solutions 422	Posted - 2012.07.16 04:13:00 - [11] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: I'd love to see rogue MTACs before we get to use them. Something to "inspire" development in the R&D department rather than letting it be a hotpatch. This. Having them as an AI controlled enemy will make the players learn how to take out an experienced, capable MTAC before any are fielded, and will allow CCP to tweak the stats actively.... although I think AI controlled MTACS ought to end up with more HP than player controlled ones at the end of the day, maybe simulate a full skills pilot.
TabbieKat 72	Posted - 2012.07.16 04:29:00 - [12] - Quote The only way I would support NPC's is for training purposes other then that, It would make no sense tword the game. Now however, these planets have Unique Flora and Fauna... (plants and animals for you who do not know... and I know you are out there). They could add maybe animals that protect their territory. This would be completely random and would not always happen. Also maybe when Dusters are waiting for contracts from the EVE players we could get mission to do instead of just random battles. Things like convoy protection. This could be a Mix of NPC and PC's. Either you are protecting or attacking the convoy as it makes it's way to the base much like how the MCC does now. And the match could be set up like Skirmish where players are on both sides or one side is controlled by NPC. Other then that... If this because an FPS version of WoW i think i may have to stop playing and ignore Dust all together.
King Snuggler Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2012.07.16 04:42:00 - [13] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: SirWinsAlot wrote: This could actually work in this game!! They can make it like Borderlands with the randomized drops that benefit your character. BOSS FIGHTS ANYONE? Hay ! any one want to run Blood Raiders Blockade LV 4???? nah... how about When Worlds Collide LV4 ? :P
Nexus Cavor KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2012.07.16 04:44:00 - [14] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Nexus Cavor wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: SirWinsAlot wrote: This could actually work in this game!! They can make it like Borderlands with the randomized drops that benefit your character. BOSS FIGHTS ANYONE? Hay ! any one want to run Blood Raiders Blockade LV 4???? I prefer Worlds Collide because I am a sucker for painful travel times... ya dog lag is rufff lol Ruff isn't always bad... Yes, bring on Rouge Drones. Make them look as creepy as they do in EVE with the tentacle looking arms and stuff...
DonRodie II 14	Posted - 2012.07.16 05:09:00 - [15] - Quote How do the gun attachments work? Can you buy new gun attachments or do you have to buy another gun to have a new scope? Also will I be able to put a scope on my pistol?
Riggs Tank Bragian Order Amarr Empire 25	Posted - 2012.07.16 05:56:00 - [16] - Quote there must be some life on these planets.... im not saying we need Avatar life forms but that would be cool to shoot at with my tank. does eve have a "food" supply? if the universe needs to eat maybe dusters can do some big game hunting.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 157	Posted - 2012.07.16 05:57:00 - [17] - Quote Riggs Tank wrote: there must be some life on these planets.... im not saying we need Avatar life forms but that would be cool to shoot at with my tank. does eve have a "food" supply? if the universe needs to eat maybe dusters can do some big game hunting. WTB> Amarrian Wheat and Frozen Seeds
Eirik DenRoue 22	Posted - 2012.07.16 06:11:00 - [18] - Quote PVE should most definitely have some faction stuff. EVE to me has never done a very good job of giving true character to the different factions. Mostly due to the "hands off" nature of EVE. You never actually see the trials and emotions of the people. Just impartial space structures, ships, and dispassionate text messages. DUST 514 has the unique ability to really bring these factions to life. There is so much potential to tell the story of the Minmatar slave struggles with the Amarr. The Liberation and passion for Freedom of the Gallente. Faction warfare would really give Dust 514 and EVE an amazing new bit of life.
Pt3D Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 221	Posted - 2012.07.16 08:00:00 - [19] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: WOOHHHH!!! LETS GO TO WAR!! on those Drones :D Great quote, from an ROFL brethren.
Pt3D Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 221	Posted - 2012.07.16 08:10:00 - [20] - Quote This is my idea for another PVE element in DUST. We know these planets will have alien flora, animals, etc. What if these things were caputureable or could be hunted. The gameplay could be similar to the game Lost Planet 2 and the Monster Hunter Series. Obviously, these hunts could be contacted out by other EVE/DUST 514 players and corps. If the hunts are successful the contracting Corp could either sell it on the market to other players or keep it as a trophy, memento of power and/or riches etc. These captures/trophies can be displayed in your Mercs/Captain Quarters or your corporation's Warbarge. I know it needs a lot of fleshing out and editing. But what do you guys think?

Chao Wolf Imperfects Negative-Feedback 209	Posted - 2012.07.16 09:17:00 - [21] - Quote How about having to defend a district or station from a rogue drone attack? Could even have eve and dust players working together trying to hold them off
zekina zek D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 108	Posted - 2012.07.16 10:52:00 - [22] - Quote just make a match where everyone has to kill a super over powered sagaris.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:18:00 - [23] - Quote zekina zek wrote: just make a match where everyone has to kill a super over powered sagaris. like a gladiator arena battle (See movie Cone Heads for reference)
LordBraskus Star Guardians 0	Posted - 2012.07.16 17:44:00 - [24] - Quote Havent read all 3 pages because i can't be assed but PVE in Dust would be a nice addition.. the way i was thinking for it to work would be for your chosen race to be fighting against the pirate factions to hold they're settled planets... much like it is in EVE..
Zorasth 7	Posted - 2012.07.16 18:36:00 - [25] - Quote Imagine: Your squad of mercs is paid to explore and secure a derelict ship or station, you have limited resources and clones available. Every suit type will have its role to play Logi will provide hives to recuperate ammo and drop up links to spawn further in. Scout types will handle recon and securing time based objectives. Heavies will be the vanguard of every encounter. Pilots could maybe summon MTACs for when things get extra dicey. Rogue AIs would be the only enemies at first but with expansions more could come. You could even carry out some missions for capsuleers who have the isk for it. Successful missions would reward the mercs with sp, risk and loot, possibly blueprints/ "faction points"
Relyt R Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:02:00 - [26] - Quote Mordu's Headhunters lvl 4
Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 134	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:26:00 - [27] - Quote Am I the only one that facedesked when reading "rogue MTACs" suggested? For those that don't know, MTACs are powered armour (think Starship Troopers the book, MAX units in PlanetSide, the "forklift" in Aliens), not automated remote devices. While this doesn't rule out NPC MTACs as an enemy, "rogue MTAC" makes about as much sense as "rogue shuttle" or "rogue cruiser." The whole concept of rogue drones is that drones, as AI-controlled remote DRONES, can go rogue and stop obeying the commands of their owner. It doesn't make sense applied elsewhere...
BAD FURRY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 247	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:39:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Let's see... If you have specific feedback/requests or suggestions on the PVE side of things please post a little bit more constructively. Thank you! will the PVE be like mission running in eve ? and can i play dust 514 off line ???? will there be looting like in eve when i do the missions? can other dust players join me in a mission to help ?
Iceman 987653 Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:42:00 - [29] - Quote I think it would be nice if you had a PVE mission set up soon to test how it would play out. You could do an escalation type mission with multiple objectives. (I.E. Save hostages at point A, Destroy factory point B, Take control of R&D facility at point C Hold point C for 10 minutes until reinforcements arrive.) If you did something on that basic concept you can have triggers set up where if an alarm is sounded 15-30 NPC's come out. If alarm is sounded again 20-40 NPC's come out but with LAV's and HAV's. While defending point C NPC dropships come in and drop 5-15 guys every 2 minutes until the last 30 seconds they could drop 20-50 guys with HAV's or something. But only playing 2 maps and 2 different mission types right now is way to repetitive. I understand its still closed beta and alot is still needed to be debugged and all but a little more variety would be greatly appreciated. What do you guys think?
TabbieKat 72	Posted - 2012.07.16 22:19:00 - [30] - Quote another idea is for us to go onto a PVE Titan and fight our way to the capsuleer and have to get though ship defenses to get there. After watching the Video that DEV Frame linked, i went from totally hating the idea to wanting more LOL :P

Zero Harpuia Maverick Conflict Solutions 422	Posted - 2012.07.16 22:29:00 - [31] - Quote Geirskoegul wrote: Am I the only one that facedesked when reading "rogue MTACs" suggested? For those that don't know, MTACs are powered armour (think Starship Troopers the book, MAX units in PlanetSide, the "forklift" in Aliens), not automated remote devices. While this doesn't rule out NPC MTACs as an enemy, "rogue MTAC" makes about as much sense as "rogue shuttle" or "rogue cruiser." The whole concept of rogue drones is that drones, as AI-controlled remote DRONES, can go rogue and stop obeying the commands of their owner. It doesn't make sense applied elsewhere... Actually, Rogue Drones are a failed experiment to create an AI replacement for a capsuleer and/or crew and gained a level of sentience, capable of hijacking other ships and reproducing themselves for other roles, so it only needs to be taken a logical step further to make them be capable of running armorsuits and even dropsuits. If that doesn't suit you, a rogue MTAC could be an NPC who stole the MTAC and went rogue. The word still works.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.07.16 23:55:00 - [32] - Quote i'd like to see something similar to raids, and epic ones at that. like, 24-32 man raids? lol idk. also, maybe have some pets or something similar to the drone in Home... maybe it could repair you... refill ammo? while doing PVE in or out of a raid.
Azura dark 31	Posted - 2012.07.17 01:05:00 - [33] - Quote pve idea 1: caves on planets wich you and a small group have to go into to and fight many drones, at certain points in the cave there are abandoned clone reserves that you could hack for spawn points, inside the center of the cave would be a largish room with many cover spots where there is a large, drone style boss your team must defeat. pve idea 2: you start at a crash site of a lava planet, there is a raised section where your team stand and lava all around you, drones attack you with no way out, there is a timer that when it hits zero the lava sinks back into the ground wich gives you time to run to the next raised platform before the lava comes back, and have to fight off more drones, maybe have a ship in the distance that you have to get to. idea was from starcraft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0aXPuG_34&t=8m26s 2 random survival/horde modes for you.
Riggs Tank Bragian Order Amarr Empire 25	Posted - 2012.07.17 16:57:00 - [34] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Geirskoegul wrote: Am I the only one that facedesked when reading "rogue MTACs" suggested? For those that don't know, MTACs are powered armour (think Starship Troopers the book, MAX units in PlanetSide, the "forklift" in Aliens), not automated remote devices. While this doesn't rule out NPC MTACs as an enemy, "rogue MTAC" makes about as much sense as "rogue shuttle" or "rogue cruiser." The whole concept of rogue drones is that drones, as AI-controlled remote DRONES, can go rogue and stop obeying the commands of their owner. It doesn't make sense applied elsewhere... Actually, Rogue Drones are a failed experiment to create an AI replacement for a capsuleer and/or crew and gained a level of sentience, capable of hijacking other ships and reproducing themselves for other roles, so it only needs to be taken a logical step further to make them be capable of running armorsuits and even dropsuits. If that doesn't suit you, a rogue MTAC could be an NPC who stole the MTAC and went rogue. The word still works. so when these Rogue ships are incountered in "EVE" i'm guessing they are attacked and destoryed. but now they can be attacked a captured by a corp. then that corp will need to have DUST 514 players come in and sweep the ship for any thing that is a danger. turning on/off certain system in that ship. if a mission is a success than the corp will own that ship. if ccp would like to pay me for this it would be fine.
Cain Hardestadt Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.07.17 17:43:00 - [35] - Quote PVE for Dust 514 is a great idea! I'd love to get with friends/corp and go into Epic missions that require teamwork to accomplish. It would be nice if there are some missions that could make use of the different roles, like pilots/drivers, Logi, scouts, etc. It will also be nice to have something to do solo. Sometime you just want to play Dust for 30 min, but don't want to take the time to get into a PvP match. Like having something quick to do before you have to leave the house, or what have you. Maybe something simple that could be done while playing on the PS Vita. Dust 514 on the go!
Average Joe81 57	Posted - 2012.07.17 20:01:00 - [36] - Quote what about a squad leader Remote Drone
Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.17 20:27:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Let's see... If you have specific feedback/requests or suggestions on the PVE side of things please post a little bit more constructively. Thank you! Best Dev post ever. Well played sir.
thereal herbzula Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2012.07.18 00:14:00 - [38] - Quote Could do something along the lines of having a cave of some sort on any game style that has objectives to secure. Inside there will be npcs you have to fight though to reach then end. Once someone reaches the end they can activate some type of object that will say....... open a "secret" way to a certain objective, maby launch some npc vehicles to help in the fight (like a tank with gunners), ughhhhh all kinds of stuff, give your team a short automatic ammo/armor/shield resupply for like 2 minutes, respawn points open up on the map that will never be there unless the thing is activated. Something like that.
Zorasth 7	Posted - 2012.07.19 01:10:00 - [39] - Quote How about some sort of VR room inside the war barge where your merc can train against various AIs. Rewards would be skillpoints only but there could be specific challenges with risk rewards for top rankers.
itza amarr2 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.07.20 01:44:00 - [40] - Quote Perhaps an interesting addition to the entire thing, since we are talking of adding bots to the game, is to add not only PVE missions with bots, but also adding combat and non combat bots to all scenarios/battles. This would add a more lifelike feel to the game, that could even provide a new market in EVE, as refugees would become a commodity seeking to leave the planet, and as they leave, more rat factions would move in. Imagine terrified civilians running scared and taking cover in the heat of battle, and just as the sniper shoots, one runs in the path of the shot. Now take the sec hit...



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