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Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 12:20:00 -
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I heard from the "Welcome to the long beta weekend" announcement that all character assets. Im assuming skills and isk will be "RESET" not deleted. So could this mean that we will still have all of our skill points to spend at launch. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 12:38:00 -
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Well if you read the post it states Attributes and Assets. SO im assuming Attributes is your skillpoints and assests are your items. Just putting that out there. Go look for yourself it in the general discussion board. IM also assuming that they meant reset as in your skills will be reset but you will keep your maximum number of skill points to spend over again. Its all conjecture but i hope im right. Someone said that right now we are earning skills at a really fast rate but bro if you make only like 5000 SP per game it will take forever to get to that proto suit not to mention that you still have other skills needing to be invested in. Its not like oh 1mill SP no prob you can get there if you try, but oh wait you still have a **** ton of other skills to get to. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 12:46:00 -
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Dont be a smart ass. I was just pointing something out. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 13:01:00 -
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You know everyone that is saying the reset is so beta participants dont have an unfair advantage are just contradicting the game. I mean if we have so much of a head start now how do you think the newbies who start playing dust a year from now will feel. It will be impossible for them to even kill anything. Especially with the huge damage boosters that weapon skills give right now. Also all the eve players will start giving their characters isk or at least rigging contracts so who has the unfair advantage now. This game is all about unfair advantages thats what makes the eve universe. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 13:19:00 -
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Im trying to tell you this isnt EVE anymore ok. This game is supposed to tailor to a less hardcore audience. This is that game that people who like eve but just cant get into play. This is Eve vanilla version. This game is meant for us sappy ass FPS players ok. At least thats what it was supposed to be. A way to gain a larger player audience and it takes more than just turning EVE into an FPS. You need to make a system that works for dem FPS softies. CCP will soon find this out as im sure. Theyll soon come to find that all their dust players are mostly EVE players as well and not the new audience they hoped for. When i started playing this beta the first thought in my head was "CCP sure knows how to make a great game just not a great FPS" AND I PLAY ALOT OF FPS games. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 13:51:00 -
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Well thats why i said its what DUST was supposed to be. CCP's mission statement was to get people who just couldnt get into EVE for being to hard core into the EVE universe. You cant turn an mmo into an fps because of the overwhelming power that older players will have over the new ones. I just calculated some skills and this is what i got. So if you max out the AR proficiency at level 5 youll get 25% damage increase ok thats already unfair but not by much. BUT OH WAIT WEAPONRY level 5 gives you another 15% so now we are at 40% damage boost. NOw you can pretty much kill a militia geared nooby in like three hits assuming your at advanced or higher level gear. BUT OH WAIT, there is more Assuming you have a prototype suit you now have two high level power slots so you slap on two 10% light weapons damage boosters. WELL GOD JEZZUZ now 60% damage increase. You could kill in just a few hits with militia gear while it still takes them a clip or more to even take down your shield. All in all im saying this game is turning into an mmo and there is a reason you dont mix mmo and fps because in WOW you wouldnt make a level 5 go up agaisnt a lvl 80.
The only way to make sure this game isnt a disaster is to have a really good matchmaking service to make sure noobies have time to grow and learn and level up before they take on a big challenge just like in an mmo.
And if you think this is wrong then your doing FPS wrong my friend. This is supposed to be a fun way to get new players to enjoy EVE. NOT turn into some "LEVEL 80" gank fest for you veteran EVE players. AND if thats what you want this game to be then you can count me out. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 14:06:00 -
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Im not but hurt about losing my stats. Im butt hurt about the system being unfair to noobs. AND IM TRYING TO TELL YOU. That yes we will have a slower SP increase, but this also applies to new players that start after a year from launch and it will take them a year to get to your level by which time youll have two years under your belt. See the math there.
LIKE I SAID you cant mix an fps and mmo. MMO is stat based FPS is supposed to be skill based you cant jsut allow people who have played longer to have an advantage. It should be so that a nooby player could kick a high level players butt if he has more skill. Granted if it is a one on one situation both facing each other.
W/E this is my last post about this. I really enjoy dust as it is but ive played alot of FPS games in my 30 years alive and I can tell you as is, its not a very good FPS, its too unfair for new players and that cant happen in an fps. And im talking about new players 1-2 years from now. NOT at launch. I gave you a solution make sure veteran players dont get mixed with noobies in the matchmaking system but find dont listen. I THOUGHT this game was to bring in a new audience to get more people to join the EVE universe but apparently its just another EVE for EVE players and you seem to not be very friendly to us as you call "Soffie" COD players. I once tried to get into EVE and i really wanted to like it but it asked for too much time and dedication to learn so i never did. Then i heard about DUST and how it would allow for an experience where people who didnt get EVE would have a chance to be apart of your world but apparently you dont want us. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 16:17:00 -
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Yeah like i said im not gonna hide it. Im not an Eve online player, but Ive always wanted to join in but in all honesty i just dont have the attention span and determination to play just one game. As the Eve players say there is no such thing as a casual EVE player. Then i heard about DUST 514 and thought now i had a chance to be apart of the EVE universe but its turning out to be just another EVE but with guns. Ill still play from day one but still what im worried about is not about myself but for new players.
My feelings are that i REALLY want DUST to be a success and not another niche game like EVE. Thats the truth. Now EVE is a really good MMO but even with all its hardcore players thats just it they are mostly all hardcore players. With DUST we have a chance to bring in fresh blood sometimes people who arent all that good at games but its better for that.
Im also not very happy with the response from EVE players towards us non-EVE players. Not everyone whos interested in DUST has played EVE, me for example. And we want to play DUST because its an FPS but the reaction from most veterans is that we suck and need to go back to COD. One person even said that they would hate for newbies to join because they dont want to spend hard earned isk on new players and relying on them to capture important planets. It just makes me upset that the reaction towards new people joining the CCP ranks is so volatile. |
Wicked Weasle
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Posted - 2012.07.15 21:24:00 -
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I ish started flame war. JEEZUS! I just want to tell you guys this is supposed to be an FPS not an mmo. In an FPS game yes you can get better weapons but its usually a slight advantage not an overwhelming advantage of 60% damage bonus on a proto AR and not to mention a proto dropsuit. BTW A PROTO SNIPER with that same 60% can kill any basic or lower geared unit in one shot to the chest. and maybe even some advanced gear units. Not to mention one shot militia units in the foot. Also proto AR with this bonus can drop militia with two bullets, but takes them almost two clips to take out a proto. FAIR? i THINK NOT?
MY POINT: STOP THE STATS and drop the skill bonuses to like 1% per level and make leveling faster.
TIS a game for FPS players not an FPS for EVE players. |
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