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Baal Roo
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Posted - 2012.07.15 19:52:00 -
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Wicked Weasle wrote:Im not but hurt about losing my stats. Im butt hurt about the system being unfair to noobs. AND IM TRYING TO TELL YOU. That yes we will have a slower SP increase, but this also applies to new players that start after a year from launch and it will take them a year to get to your level by which time youll have two years under your belt. See the math there.
LIKE I SAID you cant mix an fps and mmo. MMO is stat based FPS is supposed to be skill based you cant jsut allow people who have played longer to have an advantage. It should be so that a nooby player could kick a high level players butt if he has more skill. Granted if it is a one on one situation both facing each other.
W/E this is my last post about this. I really enjoy dust as it is but ive played alot of FPS games in my 30 years alive and I can tell you as is, its not a very good FPS, its too unfair for new players and that cant happen in an fps. And im talking about new players 1-2 years from now. NOT at launch. I gave you a solution make sure veteran players dont get mixed with noobies in the matchmaking system but find dont listen. I THOUGHT this game was to bring in a new audience to get more people to join the EVE universe but apparently its just another EVE for EVE players and you seem to not be very friendly to us as you call "Soffie" COD players. I once tried to get into EVE and i really wanted to like it but it asked for too much time and dedication to learn so i never did. Then i heard about DUST and how it would allow for an experience where people who didnt get EVE would have a chance to be apart of your world but apparently you dont want us.
You seem to lack even a basic understanding of how this game works. "Noobs" will be up against other noobs in high sec, vets will be fighting other vets in low and null. The balance needs to be between players of similar SP levels. Do you have any experience with mmos? |
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Posted - 2012.07.15 20:41:00 -
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DrunkMonk 1 wrote:Genhawkk wrote:DrunkMonk 1 wrote:Genhawkk wrote:I keep telling people that it will only take about a month (since we are at 4x SP currently in beta) to get Proto Weapon and Armor (If you bee-line it obviously). But EVERYONE keeps telling me it will take 6+ Months and all this other ****... regardless of looking at the math (especially since diminishing returns ARE currently in).
Now, if it REALLY does take 6+ month just to unlock a proto weapon + armor then this community is going to be EXTREMELY small and niche!
You can argue all you want about getting headshots and all this "player skill;" but the fact is a veteran will have 50% more damage, shield, armor, etc.... and the new guy has to spend 6 months with that disadvantage to be on the same level of field that would then be dictated by "player skill."
I love EVE, skill system and ALLLLL the meta game; but this game is F2P on a restricted PS3 market! I have NEVER EVER heard of a game on the PS3 that sets you up against veterans with a 50% advantage across the board that you have to put up with months on end.
This game is F2P and you have to disregard launch as the game needs to GROW; especially if they move it to PC or even XBOX.
More people playing a F2P game is never a bad thing Excatly! no one is going to want to suffer through loss after loss and death after death they will just quit the game all together and then you'll have no player base except for a small group of dedicated players who will liekly get bored fighting the same people over and over. But I am not saying to get rid of the skill system or ANYHTING like that (I love it).... Just reduce the difference at 50% across the board (can be more if fitted specifically) is a A LOT! Ya I hear you the game definitely has balanceing issues that need to adressed but a lot of players here dont want that, they'd rather be nearly invincible when it comes to fighting new players
The whole POINT of the discrepancy is to create a DIVIDE between new players and vets. Reducing that discrepancy will make the problem worse, not better. Noobs will play in high sec for small payouts against other noobs. |
Baal Roo
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Posted - 2012.07.15 22:09:00 -
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Wicked Weasle wrote:I ish started flame war. JEEZUS! I just want to tell you guys this is supposed to be an FPS not an mmo. In an FPS game yes you can get better weapons but its usually a slight advantage not an overwhelming advantage of 60% damage bonus on a proto AR and not to mention a proto dropsuit. BTW A PROTO SNIPER with that same 60% can kill any basic or lower geared unit in one shot to the chest. and maybe even some advanced gear units. Not to mention one shot militia units in the foot. Also proto AR with this bonus can drop militia with two bullets, but takes them almost two clips to take out a proto. FAIR? i THINK NOT?
MY POINT: STOP THE STATS and drop the skill bonuses to like 1% per level and make leveling faster.
TIS a game for FPS players not an FPS for EVE players.
This is an MMOFPS. You clearly don't have any idea what you are talking about. Why would a vet waste time in High sec?
It's baseless arguments like yours asking to take the Dust 514 out of Dust 514 that makes people say "go back to your CoD arcade games." |
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:59:00 -
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Genhawkk wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Wicked Weasle wrote:I ish started flame war. JEEZUS! I just want to tell you guys this is supposed to be an FPS not an mmo. In an FPS game yes you can get better weapons but its usually a slight advantage not an overwhelming advantage of 60% damage bonus on a proto AR and not to mention a proto dropsuit. BTW A PROTO SNIPER with that same 60% can kill any basic or lower geared unit in one shot to the chest. and maybe even some advanced gear units. Not to mention one shot militia units in the foot. Also proto AR with this bonus can drop militia with two bullets, but takes them almost two clips to take out a proto. FAIR? i THINK NOT?
MY POINT: STOP THE STATS and drop the skill bonuses to like 1% per level and make leveling faster.
TIS a game for FPS players not an FPS for EVE players. This is an MMOFPS. You clearly don't have any idea what you are talking about. Why would a vet waste time in High sec? It's baseless arguments like yours asking to take the Dust 514 out of Dust 514 that makes people say "go back to your CoD arcade games." You will have to tell me which fortune teller you use.... Speculation is speculative, how can you talk about something that is not even out or has been fully talked about? Love all the speculation on the forums the past couple of days; hell one dude said we only have 10% of the game and CCP already has all the PVE / Security Status done and that we were just testing out the core combat! This forum keeps getting better and better every week!
I would say 10% might be a stretch actually, considering CCP has stated that there will be 7,000 maps at launch, and we currently have TWO.
The thing is though, really we are BOTH "speculating", but I'm speculating based on the information CCP has provided about how the game will be structured, whereas your speculations seem to be based off of how games like CoD or Halo are structured. This entire conversation is speculative, so it seems it makes sense to at least assume CCP will deliver the basic structure they have outlined. |
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