DUST Search - How to fix Remote Explosives

Alexei Darkbloom wrote:

CCP Frame wrote:

In the upcoming build Remote Explosive is going to be changed.

Arming time: 5 seconds
Maximum ammo: 2
Lower throw distance
No icon displayed above until it is armed.

Did someone hack a developer account? I can't believe this sort of overreaction would come from a company that has been consistently supportive of emergent, sandbox-style gameplay. What happened to handing gamers an array of tools and letting them discover their uses? From the above statement, RE's are not only going to be nerfed, they're going to be functionally erased from the game. No one will bother. What's the point of wasting an infantry slot and draining more CPU/PG for such useless gear? "Lower throw distance"? Really? CCP, do you even play your game? Or do you just spend your time taking any whining as the gospel? They ALREADY can't be thrown. They're dropped a couple feet away. By jumping and using momentum, they can be tossed a bit further. But again, this is emergent gameplay. Discovering ways of getting around the limitations of the game's tools. The sort of experimentation and discovery that SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED. Guess what, the better players adapt and evolve. I've seen it myself. It's frustrating AND stimulating. It requires a rethinking on both sides. The braindead gripers who don't have the capacity to learn from their deaths will eventually head back to COD--something they will do anyways if you make this game a straight-jacket in which the only way to kill someone is to shoot them. The sort of player what will make the most of a sandbox game is also the sort of player who will stick with it for the long haul. Trigger happy COD kids have trouble with commitments.

This, quick-to-nerf mentality of CCP, has been the most troubling aspect of my time in the beta. In contrast to the many public statements about their ambitious plans for Dust, they continually put a stranglehold on those players finding ways of testing the limits. In practice, their vision seems to be one of narrowness and constriction. They kowtow to a handful on an issue that has adherents on both sides. They also often fail to offer much rationale for their verdicts. You're quickly burning your bridges CCP. Planetside keeps looking better and better.


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GOLD LEAD3R Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.07.16 19:32:00 - [1] - Quote I hardly use RE's. Mostly play as a straight up assault guy, using my AR, or a heavy using my HMG. From someone who doesn't use them, I don't think they're a problem. I may get killed by 1 a match, but usually no more than that (2 at most), and I go up against RE guys all the time. Some people are complaining about them being set off after death. Not a problem. You all know you can keep shooting someone after they die to permanantly kill them, right? And if you do that (it's like an extra spurt from your gun, so it takes a spit second) they won't be able to detonate the RE. Yahtzee. The other thing I think people are forgetting is that when friendly fire arrives, guys won't be able to just throw a RE in the middle of a firefight with everybody. I've read through this entire thread, and nobody has mentioned anything I haven't been able to solve. RE's aren't that much of a problem. A nuisance, maybe, but not a problem. Play smarter. Too much "nerf this, nerf that" going on around these boards. People need to grow up. You will get killed at some point in the game, and it won't be fun. That's part of it.
GOLD LEAD3R Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.07.19 18:59:00 - [2] - Quote Alexei Darkbloom wrote: CCP Frame wrote: In the upcoming build Remote Explosive is going to be changed. Arming time: 5 seconds Maximum ammo: 2 Lower throw distance No icon displayed above until it is armed. Did someone hack a developer account? I can't believe this sort of overreaction would come from a company that has been consistently supportive of emergent, sandbox-style gameplay. What happened to handing gamers an array of tools and letting them discover their uses? From the above statement, RE's are not only going to be nerfed, they're going to be functionally erased from the game. No one will bother. What's the point of wasting an infantry slot and draining more CPU/PG for such useless gear? "Lower throw distance"? Really? CCP, do you even play your game? Or do you just spend your time taking any whining as the gospel? They ALREADY can't be thrown. They're dropped a couple feet away. By jumping and using momentum, they can be tossed a bit further. But again, this is emergent gameplay. Discovering ways of getting around the limitations of the game's tools. The sort of experimentation and discovery that SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED. Guess what, the better players adapt and evolve. I've seen it myself. It's frustrating AND stimulating. It requires a rethinking on both sides. The braindead gripers who don't have the capacity to learn from their deaths will eventually head back to COD--something they will do anyways if you make this game a straight-jacket in which the only way to kill someone is to shoot them. The sort of player what will make the most of a sandbox game is also the sort of player who will stick with it for the long haul. Trigger happy COD kids have trouble with commitments. This, quick-to-nerf mentality of CCP, has been the most troubling aspect of my time in the beta. In contrast to the many public statements about their ambitious plans for Dust, they continually put a stranglehold on those players finding ways of testing the limits. In practice, their vision seems to be one of narrowness and constriction. They kowtow to a handful on an issue that has adherents on both sides. They also often fail to offer much rationale for their verdicts. You're quickly burning your bridges CCP. Planetside keeps looking better and better. Completely agree. Please don't nerf the entire game, CCP.