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Aztook nallac Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2012.07.10 16:37:00 - [1] - Quote While this new update has made me really like playing this game, there is one thing I am still not liking. the end match player scoreboard. The way the game ranks players as it is right now is Kill/death. which would be fine in ambush, but then in skirmish it gets a lot different. In skirmish its mostly not about how many kills one gets but how much one hacks into turret firing at the MCC. Now for me, I don't hack most of the time, but I'm usually in a group protecting the one hacking or firing above from a drop ship or on the secondary turret on a tank. That leaves me most of the time with kill assists, or helping destroy an enemy vehicle or other things that don't move me up the board but still contribute in many ways on the battle field. That leads me most of the time far down the list with others who are probably in the same boat as me. This is not a typical FPS, there by we can't base how we score players on typical FPS K/D rules.
Ferocitan 22	Posted - 2012.07.10 18:07:00 - [2] - Quote Base SP earned would be good ;)
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.10 18:14:00 - [3] - Quote I would like assists to be displayed, they seem more important then KD comtribution points you get as SP seem to be more the more assisting you can do for your team. but i would think this all would be included from the battle reports.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 19:22:00 - [4] - Quote Aztook nallac wrote: While this new update has made me really like playing this game, there is one thing I am still not liking. the end match player scoreboard. The way the game ranks players as it is right now is Kill/death. which would be fine in ambush, but then in skirmish it gets a lot different. In skirmish its mostly not about how many kills one gets but how much one hacks into turret firing at the MCC. Now for me, I don't hack most of the time, but I'm usually in a group protecting the one hacking or firing above from a drop ship or on the secondary turret on a tank. That leaves me most of the time with kill assists, or helping destroy an enemy vehicle or other things that don't move me up the board but still contribute in many ways on the battle field. That leads me most of the time far down the list with others who are probably in the same boat as me. This is not a typical FPS, there by we can't base how we score players on typical FPS K/D rules. So you're mad because you never get first on the list? I don't understand why this bothers you
Aztook nallac Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2012.07.10 19:28:00 - [5] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: While this new update has made me really like playing this game, there is one thing I am still not liking. the end match player scoreboard. The way the game ranks players as it is right now is Kill/death. which would be fine in ambush, but then in skirmish it gets a lot different. In skirmish its mostly not about how many kills one gets but how much one hacks into turret firing at the MCC. Now for me, I don't hack most of the time, but I'm usually in a group protecting the one hacking or firing above from a drop ship or on the secondary turret on a tank. That leaves me most of the time with kill assists, or helping destroy an enemy vehicle or other things that don't move me up the board but still contribute in many ways on the battle field. That leads me most of the time far down the list with others who are probably in the same boat as me. This is not a typical FPS, there by we can't base how we score players on typical FPS K/D rules. So you're mad because you never get first on the list? I don't understand why this bothers you I do not care about getting first, but recognition for what I do on the battle would be nice, I just think that the system we have now is unfair to those who focus more on objectives, side objectives, and aiding others, then just racking up kills.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 259	Posted - 2012.07.10 19:30:00 - [6] - Quote I simply want the Scoreboard to list the raw number of Earned Warpoints, and then do Kills and Deaths after that. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will allow you to get a better glimpse at who is a proper logi user and who is just bad at everything.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 19:31:00 - [7] - Quote Aztook nallac wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: While this new update has made me really like playing this game, there is one thing I am still not liking. the end match player scoreboard. The way the game ranks players as it is right now is Kill/death. which would be fine in ambush, but then in skirmish it gets a lot different. In skirmish its mostly not about how many kills one gets but how much one hacks into turret firing at the MCC. Now for me, I don't hack most of the time, but I'm usually in a group protecting the one hacking or firing above from a drop ship or on the secondary turret on a tank. That leaves me most of the time with kill assists, or helping destroy an enemy vehicle or other things that don't move me up the board but still contribute in many ways on the battle field. That leads me most of the time far down the list with others who are probably in the same boat as me. This is not a typical FPS, there by we can't base how we score players on typical FPS K/D rules. So you're mad because you never get first on the list? I don't understand why this bothers you I do not care about getting first, but recognition for what I do on the battle would be nice, I just think that the system we have now is unfair to those who focus more on objectives, side objectives, and aiding others, then just racking up kills. so you're saying if they changed it the way you wanted it would be unfair to the k/d players since its unfair now. what about the k/d recognition
Aztook nallac Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2012.07.10 19:38:00 - [8] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: While this new update has made me really like playing this game, there is one thing I am still not liking. the end match player scoreboard. The way the game ranks players as it is right now is Kill/death. which would be fine in ambush, but then in skirmish it gets a lot different. In skirmish its mostly not about how many kills one gets but how much one hacks into turret firing at the MCC. Now for me, I don't hack most of the time, but I'm usually in a group protecting the one hacking or firing above from a drop ship or on the secondary turret on a tank. That leaves me most of the time with kill assists, or helping destroy an enemy vehicle or other things that don't move me up the board but still contribute in many ways on the battle field. That leads me most of the time far down the list with others who are probably in the same boat as me. This is not a typical FPS, there by we can't base how we score players on typical FPS K/D rules. So you're mad because you never get first on the list? I don't understand why this bothers you I do not care about getting first, but recognition for what I do on the battle would be nice, I just think that the system we have now is unfair to those who focus more on objectives, side objectives, and aiding others, then just racking up kills. so you're saying if they changed it the way you wanted it would be unfair to the k/d players since its unfair now. what about the k/d recognition go by a point system? Every time you do something on the battlefield it tells you +50 when you kill someone or when you do something on the battlefield (+25 for assist, points for hacking ect) So then put those as points up in the final score, add the K/D with the scoreboard next to the point, and then everyone can be happy, but the K/D is secondary, just to show you and other players your K/D, they don't add to your rank, the points are what show your rank, that way it can be fair for everyone.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 20:11:00 - [9] - Quote Aztook nallac wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: While this new update has made me really like playing this game, there is one thing I am still not liking. the end match player scoreboard. The way the game ranks players as it is right now is Kill/death. which would be fine in ambush, but then in skirmish it gets a lot different. In skirmish its mostly not about how many kills one gets but how much one hacks into turret firing at the MCC. Now for me, I don't hack most of the time, but I'm usually in a group protecting the one hacking or firing above from a drop ship or on the secondary turret on a tank. That leaves me most of the time with kill assists, or helping destroy an enemy vehicle or other things that don't move me up the board but still contribute in many ways on the battle field. That leads me most of the time far down the list with others who are probably in the same boat as me. This is not a typical FPS, there by we can't base how we score players on typical FPS K/D rules. So you're mad because you never get first on the list? I don't understand why this bothers you I do not care about getting first, but recognition for what I do on the battle would be nice, I just think that the system we have now is unfair to those who focus more on objectives, side objectives, and aiding others, then just racking up kills. so you're saying if they changed it the way you wanted it would be unfair to the k/d players since its unfair now. what about the k/d recognition go by a point system? Every time you do something on the battlefield it tells you +50 when you kill someone or when you do something on the battlefield (+25 for assist, points for hacking ect) So then put those as points up in the final score, add the K/D with the scoreboard next to the point, and then everyone can be happy, but the K/D is secondary, just to show you and other players your K/D, they don't add to your rank, the points are what show your rank, that way it can be fair for everyone. Even if it was changed the people with 40 kills, hacks, assists and what ever will still be on top
Aztook nallac Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2012.07.10 20:29:00 - [10] - Quote Quote: Even if it was changed the people with 40 kills, hacks, assists and what ever will still be on top then they deserve to be on top because they did the most to help with the battle.

STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.10 20:33:00 - [11] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I simply want the Scoreboard to list the raw number of Earned Warpoints, and then do Kills and Deaths after that. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will allow you to get a better glimpse at who is a proper logi user and who is just bad at everything. War points would be the best way to go, for those that don't know war points are the in game points for doing things, +50 for kills, +25 assists, +100 hacks etc. So 10 kills with 3 assists and 2 hacks would be 775 points. Displaying war points and KDR at the end would show who was the most active player and who just wanted kills.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 20:37:00 - [12] - Quote Aztook nallac wrote: Quote: Even if it was changed the people with 40 kills, hacks, assists and what ever will still be on top then they deserve to be on top because they did the most to help with the battle. So right now as it is you're saying k/d doesn't deserve to be on top because they didn't help the most? You're just assuming because they get alot of kills they they don't hack objectives and help with the battle? I'll tell you right now the way this game is setup with the SP people are not only out for kills they want the most SP possible for more stuff. The only people that fit in this category of k/d not helping would be a sniper.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 20:38:00 - [13] - Quote STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I simply want the Scoreboard to list the raw number of Earned Warpoints, and then do Kills and Deaths after that. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will allow you to get a better glimpse at who is a proper logi user and who is just bad at everything. War points would be the best way to go, for those that don't know war points are the in game points for doing things, +50 for kills, +25 assists, +100 hacks etc. So 10 kills with 3 assists and 2 hacks would be 775 points. Displaying war points and KDR at the end would show who was the most active player and who just wanted kills. 40 kills 3 assists 2 hacks would be 2275 or just 40 kills would be 2000 15 kills and 1 assist will equal 775 also some math could be off check me If you didnt kill anyone you would need 20 hacks to equal 40 kills so how is the k/d not a good thing
Aztook nallac Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2012.07.10 20:51:00 - [14] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: Quote: Even if it was changed the people with 40 kills, hacks, assists and what ever will still be on top then they deserve to be on top because they did the most to help with the battle. So right now as it is you're saying k/d doesn't deserve to be on top because they didn't help the most? You're just assuming because they get alot of kills they they don't hack objectives and help with the battle? I'll tell you right now the way this game is setup with the SP people are not only out for kills they want the most SP possible for more stuff. The only people that fit in this category of k/d not helping would be a sniper. I'm not assuming anything, but when it comes to the end game wars if all we have to show how great we are on the battle is K/D then people who want to hire us will only look at our K/D not at how good we are with hacking or getting behind enemy lines, or good medics, good demolition, sabator, support, pilot, ect ect ect, I do not assume those with high kills do not also hack or do other jobs on the battle, I do not undermine those who have a good K/D good for them, they helped with the battle, but I think that others who focus solely on certain areas on the battlefield deserve recognition as well and know that they helped with the battle instead of making them feel like that the only way they can be good at this game is to be able to have a good K/D
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 21:00:00 - [15] - Quote Aztook nallac wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Aztook nallac wrote: Quote: Even if it was changed the people with 40 kills, hacks, assists and what ever will still be on top then they deserve to be on top because they did the most to help with the battle. So right now as it is you're saying k/d doesn't deserve to be on top because they didn't help the most? You're just assuming because they get alot of kills they they don't hack objectives and help with the battle? I'll tell you right now the way this game is setup with the SP people are not only out for kills they want the most SP possible for more stuff. The only people that fit in this category of k/d not helping would be a sniper. I'm not assuming anything, but when it comes to the end game wars if all we have to show how great we are on the battle is K/D then people who want to hire us will only look at our K/D not at how good we are with hacking or getting behind enemy lines, or good medics, good demolition, sabator, support, pilot, ect ect ect, I do not assume those with high kills do not also hack or do other jobs on the battle, I do not undermine those who have a good K/D good for them, they helped with the battle, but I think that others who focus solely on certain areas on the battlefield deserve recognition as well and know that they helped with the battle instead of making them feel like that the only way they can be good at this game is to be able to have a good K/D I understand what you're saying but sadly people are only going to hire the corp with the best killers because they know the job will be done. just have them add warpoints next to the k/d
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.10 21:28:00 - [16] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I simply want the Scoreboard to list the raw number of Earned Warpoints, and then do Kills and Deaths after that. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will allow you to get a better glimpse at who is a proper logi user and who is just bad at everything. War points would be the best way to go, for those that don't know war points are the in game points for doing things, +50 for kills, +25 assists, +100 hacks etc. So 10 kills with 3 assists and 2 hacks would be 775 points. Displaying war points and KDR at the end would show who was the most active player and who just wanted kills. 40 kills 3 assists 2 hacks would be 2275 or just 40 kills would be 2000 15 kills and 1 assist will equal 775 also some math could be off check me If you didnt kill anyone you would need 20 hacks to equal 40 kills so how is the k/d not a good thing I've Never said KDR is not a good thing I put up most kills on my team 95% (conservative estimate) there is a reason I'm second in kills and I also hack a ton of objectives and destroy tons of vehicles that is also why i'm second in war points, I believe first is an expert tank user. What war points would do is show the guys who do other things for the team like drop uplinks, using nanohives, reviving teammates, destroying vehicles as well as hacks. Hacks, kills, and assists are NOT the only things that give war points.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 21:34:00 - [17] - Quote STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I simply want the Scoreboard to list the raw number of Earned Warpoints, and then do Kills and Deaths after that. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will allow you to get a better glimpse at who is a proper logi user and who is just bad at everything. War points would be the best way to go, for those that don't know war points are the in game points for doing things, +50 for kills, +25 assists, +100 hacks etc. So 10 kills with 3 assists and 2 hacks would be 775 points. Displaying war points and KDR at the end would show who was the most active player and who just wanted kills. 40 kills 3 assists 2 hacks would be 2275 or just 40 kills would be 2000 15 kills and 1 assist will equal 775 also some math could be off check me If you didnt kill anyone you would need 20 hacks to equal 40 kills so how is the k/d not a good thing I've Never said KDR is not a good thing I put up most kills on my team 95% (conservative estimate) there is a reason I'm second in kills and I also hack a ton of objectives and destroy tons of vehicles that is also why i'm second in war points, I believe first is an expert tank user. What war points would do is show the guys who do other things for the team like drop uplinks, using nanohives, reviving teammates, destroying vehicles as well as hacks. Hacks, kills, and assists are NOT the only things that give war points. Are you certain kills, hacks, and assist give you war points, I only ask because mine may be bugged it's been on zero on my character sheet forever. The only thing I haven't done with this build is uplinks, nano hives, reviving , destroying vehicles. I just got the proto logistics suit sat and just added the uplink and nano hive. Are warpoints the same as SP
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.10 21:48:00 - [18] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I simply want the Scoreboard to list the raw number of Earned Warpoints, and then do Kills and Deaths after that. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will allow you to get a better glimpse at who is a proper logi user and who is just bad at everything. War points would be the best way to go, for those that don't know war points are the in game points for doing things, +50 for kills, +25 assists, +100 hacks etc. So 10 kills with 3 assists and 2 hacks would be 775 points. Displaying war points and KDR at the end would show who was the most active player and who just wanted kills. 40 kills 3 assists 2 hacks would be 2275 or just 40 kills would be 2000 15 kills and 1 assist will equal 775 also some math could be off check me If you didnt kill anyone you would need 20 hacks to equal 40 kills so how is the k/d not a good thing I've Never said KDR is not a good thing I put up most kills on my team 95% (conservative estimate) there is a reason I'm second in kills and I also hack a ton of objectives and destroy tons of vehicles that is also why i'm second in war points, I believe first is an expert tank user. What war points would do is show the guys who do other things for the team like drop uplinks, using nanohives, reviving teammates, destroying vehicles as well as hacks. Hacks, kills, and assists are NOT the only things that give war points. Are you certain kills, hacks, and assist give you war points, I only ask because mine may be bugged it's been on zero on my character sheet forever. The only thing I haven't done with this build is uplinks, nano hives, reviving , destroying vehicles. I just got the proto logistics suit sat and just added the uplink and nano hive. Are warpoints the same as SP Yes the zero war points thing is a glitch my character sheet is also zero, but the leader boards is displaying the proper number I'm over 500000 on that. so unfortunately only people in top 200 for the 3 categories can see their actual war points. They are NOT SP because I have over 12million SP.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:03:00 - [19] - Quote K/D matters. But it's not the ONLY thing that matters. It shouldn't be the only thing you get ranked on for leaderboards, of for end-game scores. And because (outside Ambush) it's not the MAIN focus of the game, it DEFINITELY shouldn't be the main focus of the leaderboard. There should be a selection of leaderboard views, and the default should depend on the mode. Ambush would default to K/D since that makes the most difference in battle. Skirmish could track "objectives hacked" and have that as the primary end-game screen. Another mode with less specific requirements could have SP earned or ISK earned as the default end-game screen. Maybe even ISK earnings vs. losses (cost of Dropsuits/vehicles used) BUT No matter which screen shows up at first, you should be able to switch views to see different ways to analyse the battle and assess who achieved the most in a VARIETY of areas.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:25:00 - [20] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: K/D matters. But it's not the ONLY thing that matters. It shouldn't be the only thing you get ranked on for leaderboards, of for end-game scores. And because (outside Ambush) it's not the MAIN focus of the game, it DEFINITELY shouldn't be the main focus of the leaderboard. There should be a selection of leaderboard views, and the default should depend on the mode. Ambush would default to K/D since that makes the most difference in battle. Skirmish could track "objectives hacked" and have that as the primary end-game screen. Another mode with less specific requirements could have SP earned or ISK earned as the default end-game screen. Maybe even ISK earnings vs. losses (cost of Dropsuits/vehicles used) BUT No matter which screen shows up at first, you should be able to switch views to see different ways to analyse the battle and assess who achieved the most in a VARIETY of areas. all I'm trying to say is that they will more than likely be displayed the same high k/d = highest warpoints these two go hand and hand more times than not like I said before unless you're a sniper

xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:35:00 - [21] - Quote so the kid who point whores the most can feel good about himself I don't think so.
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:46:00 - [22] - Quote So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:48:00 - [23] - Quote STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players. proto isn't just out for kills i've played with him and you should see him hack an objective or anything for that matter I lmao he's a wiggling mofo
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:54:00 - [24] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players. proto isn't just out for kills i've played with him and you should see him hack an objective or anything for that matter I lmao he's a wiggling mofo Never said he didn't hack just responding to his post.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.10 22:59:00 - [25] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players. proto isn't just out for kills i've played with him and you should see him hack an objective or anything for that matter I lmao he's a wiggling mofo I love how I just mention point whoring and people start feeling insecure about their abilities and for whatever reason feel the need to measure themselves against me. Secondly i don't play games for kills I simply play to have fun and embarrass people. Third i don't know if you read the threads on this forum, but obviously i'm not exclusively interested in E-sport battles since i'm one of the main people involved in the anarchist/anti goonswarm movement. @nachos we had some good ass games last weekend.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.10 23:03:00 - [26] - Quote i don't care much for the boards. i just want to see some combat logs.. battle reports, that stuff.
STB-stlcarlos989 EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 936	Posted - 2012.07.10 23:04:00 - [27] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players. proto isn't just out for kills i've played with him and you should see him hack an objective or anything for that matter I lmao he's a wiggling mofo I love how I just mention point whoring and people start feeling insecure about their abilities and for whatever reason feel the need to measure themselves against me. Secondly i don't play games for kills I simply play to have fun and embarrass people. Third i don't know if you read the threads on this forum, but obviously i'm not exclusively interested in E-sport battles since i'm one of the main people involved in the anarchist/anti goonswarm movement. @nachos we had some good ass games last weekend. I don't measure myself against anyone, I was adding context that as a highly skilled killer that I agree that the end game score board needs something other than kills and death. Keep KDR listed as the main stat but add others as well.
Rykenth Drekk Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 76	Posted - 2012.07.10 23:07:00 - [28] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players. proto isn't just out for kills i've played with him and you should see him hack an objective or anything for that matter I lmao he's a wiggling mofo I love how I just mention point whoring and people start feeling insecure about their abilities and for whatever reason feel the need to measure themselves against me. Secondly i don't play games for kills I simply play to have fun and embarrass people. Third i don't know if you read the threads on this forum, but obviously i'm not exclusively interested in E-sport battles since i'm one of the main people involved in the anarchist/anti goonswarm movement. @nachos we had some good ass games last weekend. There's an anti goonie movement? What do they do then? And there's also things like this in EVE that are kind of akin. I'm gonna use EVE terms for it, some that not all people who haven't played EVE may or may not understand, but since Dust has some of the same terms it may help. When you're a logy pilot, and you're doing it correctly, listening to the FC. Then you won't be on the killboards. This means that if you always fly logy, then you're gonna look like a carebear. Whether you want it or not. It doesn't mean you didn't participate in an epic battle, or were unimportant. It just means that you did your job right. No harm in that. Just because you're not top on a leaderboard, doesn't mean you aren't good, or even the best. It just means you aren't on the board. They could add a bunch of factors to the killboards, or leaderboards, or whatever it's gonna be called when it's done, but it's still gonna have ups and downs. Just all depends on how you want to take it. Honestly. For a long time on games like CoD. I tripped on my K/D ratio... Then my friends started playing on my account and wrecked it anyway. Does that make me less of a player on it? No. haha! I'll still drop a nuke on someone. If anything I see it as a blessing in disguise. Why? Because you see someone with a crap K/D... What's your first reaction? think they suck. Then what's your first mistake? Underestimate them. I hope I'm highly underestimated. Just another edge I can add to my arsenal. Muahaha!
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.10 23:08:00 - [29] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote: So going after objectives is point horing? Sorry Proto I know you're a great player but its not all about kills, its mostly about kills but not all. And this is coming from a guy that is very much about kills who will mostly be playing arena battles when the game drops, and I mean no disrespect Proto but I throw it out there that 1v1 I can easily hold my own against you and any of the other top gun players. proto isn't just out for kills i've played with him and you should see him hack an objective or anything for that matter I lmao he's a wiggling mofo I love how I just mention point whoring and people start feeling insecure about their abilities and for whatever reason feel the need to measure themselves against me. Secondly i don't play games for kills I simply play to have fun and embarrass people. Third i don't know if you read the threads on this forum, but obviously i'm not exclusively interested in E-sport battles since i'm one of the main people involved in the anarchist/anti goonswarm movement. @nachos we had some good ass games last weekend. yeah I did well on one game you had over 40 kills think I was around 28 or so don't really remember I failed a little in the other
Hunter Junko 0	Posted - 2012.07.10 23:52:00 - [30] - Quote I've only read a few bits of the thread so forgive me if im saying the same thing one idea i' have is to expand the K/D Ratio; ranging to defense ( the X amount of kills you made while defending structures of interest; supply depots, clone spawn points , control points etc.) to offensive (the x amount of kills you make while capturing structures of interest) even kills made while assisting those who are in the process of a certain action ( defending a heavy while he's firing a force gun at a tank, or protecting a medic from getting shot while he's reviving your comrades) just an idea, so i'll throw this one towards the crowd



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