Also-4 hours is definitely long enough to get an initial opinion. Also, this is HIS opinion. He isn't saying this is truth or fact, just that it's his opinion so yes, his opinion is valid. I may not agree with everything he says, and neither will everyone but that's fine.

So, I should walk into NASA and tell them everything I think they're doing wrong with the space program because I've watched a few shuttle launches on TV? According to you, that's valid. According to reality, that's insane.

So, I should walk into NASA and tell them everything I think they're doing wrong with the space program because I've watched a few shuttle launches on TV? According to you, that's valid. According to reality, that's insane.

Except this is a video game and it doesn't require rocket science or LOADS of equations to make a general impression. Keep it real.

I think a person's initial thoughts within the first hour of playing will change after playing for several more hours and so on.

What exactly do you think programing and weapon stat balancing is if it isn't LOADS of equations? I mean, CCP has a full time economist on staff to do LOADS of equations related to the marketplace. See this right here, you have an opinion, but it's not a valid opinion because you have no idea what you're talking about.


See, that's my point. You agree with me, but you're arguing just because you have to feel right and feel like you've won something here. If your so called "valid" opinion is so likely to change with just a few more hours of experience, then obviously the original wasn't worth anything. You're readily admitting this, you're just not connecting the dots.

Sure, belittle an entire industry that you've demonstrated you know absolutely nothing about and call yourself the adult.

But if you want to go talk trajectory, you can email the folks at Havok about their physics engine. Tell them what they did was easy. While you're at it, contact Steve Polge at Epic Game and tell him the Unreal Engine didn't take much effort over the past decade.

Or...

be a coward and do neither of those things and shoot your mouth off on a forum about your fantasies on how to run an industry you don't understand.

Done feeding the Troll from here on out.

Please, someone stimulate this conversation with rational thought and processes before I lose faith in Humanity.... more so....

These are just little things as I think the game is great thus far.

(1.) Menus
As a console game,a great deal of console gamer's are going to try this out. That being said
I think that the majority of console gamer's will have a little trouble initially using the menu's.
Maybe they can be cleaned up a bit and made more fluid,more organic perhaps.

(2.) Aiming/targeting
This one is just an observation,the aiming seems a bit chunky,I have only been playing
the scout and have only used my Rifle and SMG. The initial grab for the scope knocks your
field of view all over the place. I think it will get better with training skills,or I hope so. lol

(3.) Lag.
I know this is the beta,and I know this happens in about every game out there.
But its very hard to snipe when guys jump thirty feet ahead of where they were,again i'm
sure that will be dealt with.

(4.) SFX
The sounds seem a bit tinny. Maybe I have been playing too much Skyrim and watching
too much Game Of Thrones but the sound I think needs more bite,its all too quiet. I can see all
the chaos in the distance but I cant hear any of it.

(5.) Terrain
When im trying to be sneaky,crouching my way up a hill,it seems every time my character pops
up and falls about ten times (taking damage even) and then it pops me out of crouch. I dont
know the technical term for whats happening but it has gotten me killed a couple times and
Is a some what annoying.

So, I should walk into NASA and tell them everything I think they're doing wrong with the space program because I've watched a few shuttle launches on TV? According to you, that's valid. According to reality, that's insane.

Chunkiness might not have been the proper term. Perhaps it feels too light,with weight at the end of the movement.
Next time I play im gonna try to mess with the sensitivity and see if I can correct it.
If it does not correct it I would say that a heavy initial movement instead of too snappy would
even things out a bit. Acceleration is most likely a better term for that.

As for the lag it only happened twice,my guess is just a lil hicup,maybe a vehicle
was destroyed and it cause a framerate drop. Hmm. Will need more time to discover
the cause.

I also think that the first four hours are going to matter when it comes to getting people hooked.

Still,just an opinion.

Billy.

gave us some brochures with a survey so we could rate our experience.

Please refrain from criticizing people giving FEEDBACK in the FEEDBACK forum.

So you criticizing me for giving feedback on the feedback in the feedback forum would be.. what exactly?

Initial Thoughts After Living My Life:

It takes more than 4 hours to have a valid opinion on a subject.

What feedback have you given apart from you've only played for four hours therefore everything you say doesnt matter?

So you want to play this game. Fine.

Look at what you've said there. It's quoted for your convenience. What feedback[b]other than[/b]...
So you agree I've given feedback, but are also claiming I haven't in the same sentence. You can consider this feedback on your inability to form either an argument or a sentence correctly.

I distilled it to what it meant since you seem to have trouble with reading comprehension. Forgive me for trying to help you with your learning disability.

edit: Also, most people agree the sky is blue. They're wrong, but they agree. This is the same kind of thing.

Do you really have nothing better to do than abuse people over the internet who are trying to help?

(1.) Menus
As a console game,a great deal of console gamer's are going to try this out. That being said
I think that the majority of console gamer's will have a little trouble initially using the menu's.
Maybe they can be cleaned up a bit and made more fluid,more organic perhaps.

And if a few in your class had all written "you need to give us a gajillion dollars" on their surveys, do you think the museum would've done it? Do you think that would be valid feedback?

Of course not. When you hand out surveys to children you expect to get a certain amount of useless nonsense back that you just ignore. The problem is, the last time I ignored a bunch of useless feedback demanding the heavy be nerfed into a teadybear, CCP actually did it because no one was giving a counterpoint. Not making that mistake again.


So you criticizing me for giving feedback on the feedback in the feedback forum would be.. what exactly?

You realize you're baselessly harassing me right? You are the cyberbully if you really want to pull out that childish definition. Personally, I'd count you as more of a preteen who wants to argue for the sake of arguing so you can inflate your ego, but meh. You're not paying me by the hour, so I won't do you any favors on diagnosis.

edit: Ya know Zach, this informational video might just give you a clearer view on CCP's viewpoint on the matter CCP - Permaband - HTFU

Initial Thoughts After Living My Life:

It takes more than 4 hours to have a valid opinion on a subject.

who is asking for anything to be nerfed in the thread noone now if you would please shut up and go away troll and yes you are a troll i know because i am a troll it takes a troll to know a troll dear and your a troll dont care if you know it or not your still a troll.

also billy i snip from times to time and have had the auto in crouch thing happen it sucks and i have had moments where i have almost fallen through the ground and your have more then enough time playing a game for 4 hours i chose to keep playing a game after 1 hour so to me 4 hours is way more then enough don't let trolls hold you down or feel bad about your self billy trolls hate them selves and need to make others feel bad to make them selves feel good he probably didn't get hugged enough as a kid so like i said don't feel bad billy hold your head high and let your opinion out