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Posted - 2012.07.05 15:57:00 -
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carl von oppenheimer wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Darkz azurr wrote:draw a perfect circle with a mouse in game ccp , then do it with a pad. feel the difference. plz just try it ps3 community just want it ballanced with a pad, as you can see ^ Sad thing is they will probably add even more aim assist for game pad users
And Dust already has way to much of that Your so called aim assist has been noted as a bug by CCP in #IRC. So get it in to your head already people; there is no aim assist in this game.
Your wrong he stated that the aim assist is bugged. So the problem is that we don't want aim assist but must have it because KB/M support is coming. If it's not balanced a game that I've been following since 2010 will fail.
If KB/M screws up the one FPS that I had hope for I quit FPS gaming I refuse to play COD and DICE/EA are greedy bastards. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 19:57:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:
KB/M without limitations won't happen.
You don't release a game that would play better using a kb/m on a console that is sold with controllers.
Why not? Because stubborn people might complain that others have better controls so you'll just dumb everyone down their level? That's bad design that leads to crap like Call of Duty.
So your saying we should learn to use KB/M to play Dust 514? The game was designed for a console not PC they might as well just port it to PC then because this game wont last very long if KB/M doesn't have limitations. |
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Farson Thrask wrote:So? My laptop didn't ship with a mouse but i'd be stupid to not get one anyway for FPS gaming. It's not like those 90% will be isolated, if they feel that the DS controller is holding them back they can just go and buy a mouse and keyboard. Limiting peoples choices is just a pain in the ass, let them use whatever type of controller that best brings their skill into the game.
Your argument is flawed if KB/M is better than the controller then people are forced to buy KB/M which limits my choice. If I can't use my preference of choice in a DS because KB/M owns I really don't have a choice but to play KB/M to stay competitive... |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:15:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:
So your saying we should learn to use KB/M to play Dust 514? The game was designed for a console not PC they might as well just port it to PC then because this game wont last very long if KB/M doesn't have limitations.
Supposedly it IS getting ported to PC in a year. Since we're all in the same universe in Dust 514, you'll have to be facing PC users eventually. And it'll do just fine on consoles if it has mouse and keyboard unhindered.
Well then fine why bring it to console in the first place. This game will bomb on the console side if KB/M support is added and then PC get's a port. So don't even release on console it's pointless they are shooting themselves in the foot with this. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:28:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:
Well then fine why bring it to console in the first place. This game will bomb on the console side if KB/M support is added and then PC get's a port. So don't even release on console it's pointless they are shooting themselves in the foot with this.
If they don't add it, they're going to lose a lot of customers who came to Dust 514 on the promise that they would do this. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I don't think it is going to fail though because the number will be made up for by people who like mouse and keyboard a lot.
They already had a much larger player base in the console gamers which they supposedly made the game for. If MAG could get 1 mil copies sold then Dust would have no problems with it being free. If you really think Dust 514 can compete on PC with all the other shooters coming out especially the free to play ones you've got issues. The one thing keeping me from firefall is the fact that it's on PC. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:34:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:
lol its F2P so they need a lot of people to keep playing it for a while
Just throw in KB+M and this wont happen
That's quite a claim, can you back it up with numbers? Common sense
Apparently you lack it
Apparently YOU lack it, actually. The number of PS3 owners with PCs that just happen to have a compatible mouse and keyboard attached is probably larger than you appreciate. And the number of PS3 players willing to spend $20 or so on cheap peripherals so they can become more competitive in their otherwise-free FPS is also probably higher than you think. As for myself, I have an old PC with USB KB+M, but I don't intend to use them, and will be disappointed if CCP can't balance the two control schemes. It's been done before, so I don't see a reason why it can't happen here. As long as the controller works competently, I intend to have fun and not care as much about competition.
vice versa. There could be way more PS3 players who don't want to be bothered with KB/M support on the free to play game. Also why should console players have to buy KB/M to be more competitive when all PS3's ship with DS controllers. Maybe CCP should leave out KB/M support and you KB/M users get good with the controller that was shipped with your PS3.
The only other time something like this was done was with a game made by microsoft the PC players dominated the game and they had to shut it down because numbers dropped so fast from console players not playing the game. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:57:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:Is it spam if I post this in every single kb/m thread? Oh well...
From Dust514.org February 13, 2012
Broadcastorm: Well we should really go on with the interview right now. So Grideris, what's your first question and the official statement from CCP about the thing that people don't still believe us.
Grideris: Yes yes yes. Gentlemen, can you please for once and for all settle it: DUST will support the mouse and keyboard in-game when you're shooting. Can you please settle this for once and for all?
CCP Praetorian: Yes
CCP CmdrWang: Yes we can. Yes we will support the mouse and keyboard for DUST514 including in-game shooting. And I just want to add that you know we are aware of how critical this is to get it right because we've seen other games try to attempt this and there were some problems. But we are dedicated considerable amount of resources into this particular feature because we want to do it right and we want to make sure that our players when they use the mouse and keyboard they will have a very good experience comparable to what they're used to on the PC.
Grideris: Now another question that his revelation has brought up is what is the balance between the mouse and the keyboard versus the controller and by extension, against Playstation Move going to be like? Are you going to make sure that it's all balanced. Because we've had a lot of concern over this. Yes?
CCP Praetorian: We're learning a lot the difference between the three styles of control. And I mean obviously we're still developing it, still balancing, and our commitment is very high. It's supposed to be perfect. But we'll go into more detail on that later once we've you know, kind of hammered in all of the details.
Grideris: Sounds good. -------- Maybe we should all put a little faith in CCP, accept that it's happening, and trust that it will be balanced.
But we are dedicated considerable amount of resources into this particular feature because we want to do it right and we want to make sure that our players when they use the mouse and keyboard they will have a very good experience comparable to what they're used to on the PC.
That's enough to say DS3 users are ****** lol! |
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