DUST Search - Keyboard/Mouse

Major Assitch wrote:

With this information in mind it's difficult to see how any developer could choose to make any PS3 exclusive and force players to use a controller setup they clearly dislike. This entire issue would be quite different if Dust were a multi-platform game but it isn't, it's a PS3 exclusive! What on Earth are they thinking?

I will offer my guess as to what they are thinking. CCP is thinking of the EvE players with the decision to force players to use a KB/M setup. I say they are forcing players because if it's true that KB/M is the most accurate and best responsive choice then anyone expecting to be competitive will need to use KB/M. So....CCP is thinking of the EvE players with the decision to force us all to use KB/M. Why? Well, because it's the only fanbase they know! They don't want to alienate their original fanbase by making them adapt to a new controller.

BAD decision!

Why is this a bad decision? I think it's a bad decision for the simple reason that EvE players are not going to be Dust players! How could they be? Does CCP honestly think that EvE players are going to abandon the game they've been playing for the past decade in favor of this new PS3 exclusive? Surely they aren't so naive.

EvE players play EvE and it will continue to be that way. Sure, many of them might give Dust a go. Some of them might stick around and stop playing EvE altogether, but for the most part Dust will be a passing fancy for EvE players and might end up being a part time venture at best for quite a few. One thing's for certain....Dust will not draw it's largest income from the EvE player fanbase. It just isn't logical. So when making decisions for the game it may be prudent to consider EvE players with some of those decisions but when it comes to the UI it just isn't good logic to cater to a fanbase that's already fully invested in another game.


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Random Fluke Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.07.14 09:36:00 - [1] - Quote Major Assitch wrote: With this information in mind it's difficult to see how any developer could choose to make any PS3 exclusive and force players to use a controller setup they clearly dislike. This entire issue would be quite different if Dust were a multi-platform game but it isn't, it's a PS3 exclusive! What on Earth are they thinking? I will offer my guess as to what they are thinking. CCP is thinking of the EvE players with the decision to force players to use a KB/M setup. I say they are forcing players because if it's true that KB/M is the most accurate and best responsive choice then anyone expecting to be competitive will need to use KB/M. So....CCP is thinking of the EvE players with the decision to force us all to use KB/M. Why? Well, because it's the only fanbase they know! They don't want to alienate their original fanbase by making them adapt to a new controller. BAD decision! Why is this a bad decision? I think it's a bad decision for the simple reason that EvE players are not going to be Dust players! How could they be? Does CCP honestly think that EvE players are going to abandon the game they've been playing for the past decade in favor of this new PS3 exclusive? Surely they aren't so naive. EvE players play EvE and it will continue to be that way. Sure, many of them might give Dust a go. Some of them might stick around and stop playing EvE altogether, but for the most part Dust will be a passing fancy for EvE players and might end up being a part time venture at best for quite a few. One thing's for certain....Dust will not draw it's largest income from the EvE player fanbase. It just isn't logical. So when making decisions for the game it may be prudent to consider EvE players with some of those decisions but when it comes to the UI it just isn't good logic to cater to a fanbase that's already fully invested in another game. You actually think Eve players won't play Dust because they are already playing Eve? Guess what? They will play BOTH, this will just be one more game for them. They won't give up playing Eve to play Dust. Heck some of them will be playing them at the same time. That Eve player bombarding you on that planet might have a character on the planet they are shooting at. And if they don't, they will probably have a corp mate on the planet playing and staying in communication with them. Do console players just stick with one game at a time? Most of the Eve players I know are playing a few different games. Heck my corps Teamspeak server has subchannels for people to go play a ton of other games like Diablo, BF3, ME3, WOW, SWTOR, even the Planetside and Mechwarrior betas. A lot of Eve players have multiple active subscriptions to the game. So a bit of money for a game like this is nothing. Dust is going to get plenty of funding from Eve players, they won't think twice about dropping a few bucks to grab gear. I know people from my corp who bought a PS3 just to play Dust. That is someone going out and dropping a few hundred on a console to play a game they haven't even played yet. So I think you may be underestimating the Eve player involvement in Dust. Eve players have expected this game for a while and most of them expected to play it with a KB/M. We didn't expect it to be PS3 exclusive. CCP knows this and they also know what happens when they upset their Eve player base. Personally I have been interested in this game since it was hinted at back during the Tyrannis(?) update which was a few years ago. I was shocked to hear it was PS3 exclusive but after hearing why I understood. (Sony was VERY supportive of CCP) Anyway no big deal, I already had a PS3 which I used for GT5 and a few other games. Since my FPS experience goes back to Wolfenstein 3d the issue was the damn controller. While it is perfectly fine for most games I find it lacking and completely unnatural for FPS's just as I found it a bit lacking for GT5. I have a logitech G25 wheel for GT5 and I play with other players using their controller. I don't see them crying foul over my use of a nice wheel. They just get over it and probably have no idea I have it, just as the Dust players will get over it and hardly notice the mouse users. If you are great with the controller you will be fine in Dust, the KB/M will bring in even more players. Will they have a bit of an advantage? Likely, but it is not going to have this astonishing impact where anyone with a controller will be relegated to the bottom of the leaderboards.