DUST Search - Overwatch Meta vs Dust 514 Meta

Maken Tosch wrote:

It's really weird seeing the Overwatch community embrace the meta like a really overused meme. What they call the meta we often called it flavor of the month back in the golden days of Dust 514.

Here in Dust 514 a lot of us often shunned those like witches in Salem for winning matches using the easiest setups possible. We have seen them all. Cloaky shotgun scouts, double/triple-stacked tanks, redline-loving commando snipers, blue bottle bunnies and OP fisters. We have seen them abuse it all here in Dust because it was just easy to win that way. At least here in Dust we appreciated the specialists because at least they proved to have skill and never backed down from a challenge.

But in Overwatch, it's the other way around. You are ostracized for admitting to being a one-trick pony. For **** sake, Mercy mains are heavily criticized and that's before you get to my main (Hanzo). They don't like specialists. They want everyone to get in line and be peer pressured into following the meta (aka flavor of the month) even if the player being pressured in the team is not that good with the hero they are being pressured into using. I didn't see much of this happen even in Dust 514's Factional Warfare. But if you go to Overwatch and go into competitive, chosing Hanzo in there is like running for US President. No one will like you no matter how good you are.

To them, teamwork only means switching heroes if they are being countered. To them they don't seem to understand the impact that coordination and communication has. Oh, you're getting pegged by Pharah? Switch to hitscan hero (McCree, Soldier, Widow). Doesn't matter if you have a way to mess up Pharah without having to switch. You MUST switch or else you get reported for throwing the match even though Blizzard specifically states on their reporting system that they will not ban anyone just because they refused to switch out of a specific hero.

And it's very toxic over there. If you people though Dust 514 was toxic with all the "harden the **** up" mantra that we constantly chanted throughout the years here, wait until you look at the Overwatch community. It is so toxic I am almost tempted to call the Environmental Protection Agency because I can almost smell the chemicals from way over here.

Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.


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Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 8196	Posted - 2017.06.22 19:28:00 - [1] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: It's really weird seeing the Overwatch community embrace the meta like a really overused meme. What they call the meta we often called it flavor of the month back in the golden days of Dust 514. Here in Dust 514 a lot of us often shunned those like witches in Salem for winning matches using the easiest setups possible. We have seen them all. Cloaky shotgun scouts, double/triple-stacked tanks, redline-loving commando snipers, blue bottle bunnies and OP fisters. We have seen them abuse it all here in Dust because it was just easy to win that way. At least here in Dust we appreciated the specialists because at least they proved to have skill and never backed down from a challenge. But in Overwatch, it's the other way around. You are ostracized for admitting to being a one-trick pony. For ** sake, Mercy mains are heavily criticized and that's before you get to my main (Hanzo). They don't like specialists. They want everyone to get in line and be peer pressured into following the meta (aka flavor of the month) even if the player being pressured in the team is not that good with the hero they are being pressured into using. I didn't see much of this happen even in Dust 514's Factional Warfare. But if you go to Overwatch and go into competitive, chosing Hanzo in there is like running for US President. No one will like you no matter how good you are. To them, teamwork only means switching heroes if they are being countered. To them they don't seem to understand the impact that coordination and communication has. Oh, you're getting pegged by Pharah? Switch to hitscan hero (McCree, Soldier, Widow). Doesn't matter if you have a way to mess up Pharah without having to switch. You MUST switch or else you get reported for throwing the match even though Blizzard specifically states on their reporting system that they will not ban anyone just because they refused to switch out of a specific hero. And it's very toxic over there. If you people though Dust 514 was toxic with all the "harden the ** up" mantra that we constantly chanted throughout the years here, wait until you look at the Overwatch community. It is so toxic I am almost tempted to call the Environmental Protection Agency because I can almost smell the chemicals from way over here. - OP fisters were funny. No matter how annoying you found them, you got to admit they were funny. Particularly the punching Sentinels. Besides, they had a very short range. - There was one example of much hate generated over which class you played in DUST, and that was playing a Sniper when there were already 3 or more Snipers on the field. - The Environmental Protection Agency has been so gutted and underfunded that they would not be able to clean up that toxic waste of a community even if you did report it. The EPA has really gone down hill since I worked there in the late 90's. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.