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        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2521
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 02:19:00 -
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 CCP I get that you want to make the game more accessible to newbros and such in the future but I feel as if dumbing down the CPU/PG into one unit is really
 wrong and disturbing you're basically simplifying it abit tomuch making it less complex.
 
 At that point we might as well go full Valkyrie and have no fitting at all =ƒÿÉ
 
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        |  One Eyed King
 Nos Nothi
 
 17162
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 02:39:00 -
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 There was a whole thread about the subject, and you feel the need to post your own?
 
 Need attention much?
 
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        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2522
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 02:42:00 -
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 One Eyed King wrote: There was a whole thread about the subject, and you feel the need to post your own? Need attention much? I'm sorry my friend but I feel as if this needed more visual instead of being buried in a thread of people going off topic and making bad ideas as if they never played dust or eve
 
 Im a hypocrite bite me. | 
      
      
        |  Clone D
 Solo Zen
 
 2229
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 02:58:00 -
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 If they need to dumb the game down to attract more people, that's their prerogative. It simply won't hold an appeal for me. It seems that Rattati is not trying to make a better Dust 514. Nova is a new animal, and their design considerations are based on market outlook.
 
 With a glimpse of the direction that development is headed in, I doubt that Nova will hold much appeal for fans of Dust 514. We'll have to look elsewhere to meet our need for deeper character development, tuning, game play and context.
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        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2522
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 03:17:00 -
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 Clone D wrote:If they need to dumb the game down to attract more people, that's their prerogative. It simply won't hold an appeal for me. It seems that Rattati is not trying to make a better Dust 514. Nova is a new animal, and their design considerations are based on market outlook.
 With a glimpse of the direction that development is headed in, I doubt that Nova will hold much appeal for fans of Dust 514. We'll have to look elsewhere to meet our need for deeper character development, tuning, game play and context.
 Let's hope it holds appeal to eve/dust vets instead of looking like a generic unreal engine game that plays like most generic shooters attracting really casual players
 
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        |  DeadlyAztec11
 
 10153
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 05:32:00 -
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 Clone D wrote:If they need to dumb the game down to attract more people, that's their prerogative. It simply won't hold an appeal for me. It seems that Rattati is not trying to make a better Dust 514. Nova is a new animal, and their design considerations are based on market outlook.
 With a glimpse of the direction that development is headed in, I doubt that Nova will hold much appeal for fans of Dust 514. We'll have to look elsewhere to meet our need for deeper character development, tuning, game play and context.
 I'm simply upset that we'll have to wait an indefinite time to get that dream. So close, yet so far.
 
 
 
 
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        |  Richard Gamerich-R
 Mannar Focused Warfare
 Gallente Federation
 
 484
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 06:32:00 -
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 MAG on ps3 got only one unit for fitting, and it was fun for all guys. If that can help to bring more people, and fix the balance, then I prefer this way.
 
 The major problem in DUST was : balance, and playerbase so ...
 
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        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2525
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 06:56:00 -
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 Richard Gamerich-R wrote:MAG on ps3 got only one unit for fitting, and it was fun for all guys. If that can help to bring more people, and fix the balance, then I prefer this way. 
 The major problem in DUST was : balance, and playerbase so ...
 Mag != Nova please
 
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        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2527
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 08:36:00 -
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 DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Clone D wrote:If they need to dumb the game down to attract more people, that's their prerogative. It simply won't hold an appeal for me. It seems that Rattati is not trying to make a better Dust 514. Nova is a new animal, and their design considerations are based on market outlook.
 With a glimpse of the direction that development is headed in, I doubt that Nova will hold much appeal for fans of Dust 514. We'll have to look elsewhere to meet our need for deeper character development, tuning, game play and context.
 I'm simply upset that we'll have to wait an indefinite time to get that dream. So close, yet so far. Where did we go wrong? 
 We did wrong by not shooting down bad ideas and providing positive constructive arguments
 
 
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        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2527
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 08:39:00 -
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 I really dislike making nova less complex/no steep learning curve
 
 Im a hypocrite bite me. | 
      
      
        |  Joel II X
 Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
 
 10858
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 08:43:00 -
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 One Eyed King wrote: There was a whole thread about the subject, and you feel the need to post your own? Need attention much? Seems justified to me...
 
 You're probably the type to use the Point Down emote at Dark Souls III, aren't you?
 
 Scouts United Gk.0s & Quafes all day. | 
      
      
        |  Golden Day
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 2531
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.19 20:47:00 -
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 Joel II X wrote:One Eyed King wrote: There was a whole thread about the subject, and you feel the need to post your own? Need attention much? Seems justified to me...  You're probably the type to use the Point Down emote at Dark Souls III, aren't you?  Lol
 
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        |  Derpty Derp
 Dead Man's Game
 
 1884
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 09:56:00 -
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 Golden Day wrote:I really dislike making nova less complex/no steep learning curve 
 I imagine learning to balance capacitors will have more of a learning curve than learning to count 2 numers... Most people outside of primary school can already do that.
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        |  DAAAA BEAST
 Corrosive Synergy
 
 4672
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 12:48:00 -
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 +1
 
 How else am i going to look cool spending 3 million SP on Fitting Optimization V so I can fit an advanced breach flaylock, rather than just a basic one ?
 
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        |  DUST Fiend
 
 19202
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 13:02:00 -
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 DAAAA BEAST wrote:+1
 How else am i going to look cool spending 3 million SP on Fitting Optimization V so I can fit an advanced breach flaylock, rather than just a basic one ?
 We don't even know if we'll have SP :/ Or if you'll have to unlock skills before actually unlocking them with SP.
 
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        |  DeathwindRising
 ROGUE RELICS
 
 1480
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 13:43:00 -
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 Golden Day wrote:CCP I get that you want to make the game more accessible to newbros and such in the future but I feel as if dumbing down the CPU/PG into one unit is really wrong and disturbing you're basically simplifying it abit tomuch making it less complex.
 
 At that point we might as well go full Valkyrie and have no fitting at all =ƒÿÉ
 
 You know you can have fitting without the pg/cpu mechanics right?
 
 I just explained this in the other thread that there are other ways of achieving the same result.
 
 Option 1: If i give you a box full of stuff and say you can pick any 5 things from the box, its easy right? pick what you want.
 
 Option 2: If i tell you pick any 5 things you want, but they must fit inside the box, then it is different. the 5 items you pick may not fit in the box together and you're forced to figure out on your own what items will fit in the box together.
 
 CCP what to move away from option 2, that's all. pg/cpu constraints were an unnecessary complication.
 
 Instead having player pick any combination of modules they wanted, and then finding out they couldn't use it on a dropsuit because of pg/cpu limitations, we could say "here's your dropsuit, and you can select any of these modules available for use on that particular dropsuit.
 
 Now when ccp needs to balance something, they can simply go to the offending dropsuit and adjust dropsuit stats instead adjust pg/cpu of modules. We all saw what happened when fitting cost got adjusted. some modules that should be available on certain fits, no longer could use them because the fitting cost of the module increased by 1pg. if you used two or three of that module before and it fit, you now were over your pg by 2 or 3 pg. So ccp then buffs the suit by 2 or 3 pg to compensate, but now the extra pg is letting people fit and additional 70 hp on a scout suit. Thats unintentional side effect.
 
 So what now? ccp has to go and adjust the cpu/pg on HP mods, which will break a fitting for something else. it's a total mess trying to balance it all, and that's why cpu/pg needs to go.
 
 
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        |  DeathwindRising
 ROGUE RELICS
 
 1480
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 13:48:00 -
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 DAAAA BEAST wrote:+1
 How else am i going to look cool spending 3 million SP on Fitting Optimization V so I can fit an advanced breach flaylock, rather than just a basic one ?
 
 why do we need advanced and basic variants? we could easily just have one variant, that can be modified with attachments.
 
 You could choose lots weaker attachments like sights or grips, or choose a couple more powerful things that might increase damage, clip size, or rate of fire.
 
 The more you skill up, the more attachments you can fit.
 
 Just ideas, but they illiterate the possibilities.
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        |  Spaceman-Rob
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
 1078
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 13:49:00 -
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 Dumbing down is the deliberate oversimplification of intellectual content within education, literature, cinema, news, video games and culture in order to relate to those unable to assimilate more sophisticated information.
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        |  Clone D
 Solo Zen
 
 2241
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.20 17:37:00 -
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 Spaceman-Rob wrote:Dumbing down is the deliberate oversimplification of intellectual content within education, literature, cinema, news, video games and culture in order to relate to those unable to assimilate more sophisticated information. 
 And dumb people part with their cash more easily than smart people. Again, it points to the CCP money grab trend. Apparently, generating inspired IP has dropped to the bottom of the totem pole, if it is even on the totem pole any more.
 
 First you get the money. Then you get the power. Then you get the tacos.
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        |  Lightning35 Delta514
 Federation Marines 62
 
 5319
 
 
      | Posted - 2017.05.21 17:52:00 -
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 No
 
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