ITS A TRAP!!!!

You're not allahhu Ackbar!

I'd like to see the whiteboard from CCP's "Why did Dust Fail?" meeting

I can tell you why, outdated console and poor frames-per-second, add ZERO advertising and you got a dead game.

DUSTs experience should not be recreated.

It's concepts should be improved upon and the bad parts removed.

What is bad though? It seems the developers think complex = bad and that a steep learning curve = less players. So far everything they have said has pointed to tossing out what everyone liked about the original.

Hell, they're talking about getting rid of skilling into things and simply earning things by playing certain roles more often.

That's one thing that made Dust 514 great. It wasn't just a shooter, it was a thinking man's game with consequences.

We don't want Nova to be something ' better ' than Dust 514. We want it to be what Dust 514 was supposed to be.

... what Dust was supposed to be...was better than what Dust was.

So yeah, I want it to be better.

Don't you feel as if they aren't moving in that direction anymore? Dust 514 will most likely be scaled down. Are you supporting this Pokey? Do you believe this is the proper course of action?

Don't be. You'll still be playing eventually for nostalgia sake then I'll be there to put a headshot in your dome. GG
That should make it feel like Dust.

I'll be ready to dodge it and stab you in the groin with my Nova Knife.

And what Dust was supposed to be...was better than what Dust was.

So yeah, I want it to be better.

Pokey you want something to better by making something else.

We are losing the things we love about dust.

Is that making it better.

No big maps.

No openworld.

No skilltree.

No vehicles.

No cpu pg balancing.

But it looks exactly the same.

Eve wise that is.

It's better this way. It is evolving.

When things in reality can no longer continue acting as they do they either come to an end or evolve. Nova will be the next iteration of Dust 514 and therefore we should treat it as merely a natural step in the cycle of progress. Dust 514 will exist through the product of Project Nova or it will not exist at all.

Do not simply dwell on what is lost in the past; look forward to what may be gained in the future.

Once, we paced on desolate, back water worlds fighting as mercenaries in behalf of powerful corporations and our purpose for fighting was fighting. That was the end of our toil. Now we are given the privilege of fighting on behalf of capsuleers and their dependents in the skies. We always sought the respect of the capsuleers even if we ourselves insisted that was not the case. We still do not have it. That will have to be earned.

There is a saying,



Come eat that horse with me Russel!

Yeah I too feel slightly pessimistic about what Nova will be. I have the feeling it will be missing the vital 'DUST' essence, that thing about DUST that made it unique that you can't quite pin down. Slightly disappointed the complexity of the game is being scaled down. Whilst that makes the game more popular, if CCP was purely concerned about sales then they might as well just make CoD. I'm sure the second-to-second gameplay of Nova will be fun, but there are plenty of other shooters where the second-to-second gameplay is very fun too. Will Nova be able to compete solely on that basis if it doesn't have DUST's X factor? I suppose Nova doesn't really need vehicles. It would be nice if it had them, but I understand that they're very difficult to get right. I just hope CCP doesn't add them as an afterthough; something like that would inevitably mess up balance and leave the vehicle experience unfulfilling. I also hope that there isn't too much focus on PvE. Nova should be primarily a PvP game.

A part of me feels that the flaws of DUST were its strengths. The little bugs and imbalances, quirks and oddities were part of the experience. It made DUST DUST. In furiously polishing something to shine, are we unknowingly eroding away a beautiful mosaic?

I like you youngin's but damn do you have a lot to learn...

To cover a couple things.

A) F*ck marketing. You can't market a piece of **** and expect it to be gangbusters long term. If you looked at the New Player creation chart that EVE Offline had, you would have noticed tons of people joining on open beta. It's not that people didn't know about the game, it is that the game sucked to most people playing and they didn't stick around. You can't market to that. It just doesn't work. Period. If someone doesn't like Brussels sprouts, you can't just show them an advertisement, and suddenly they will like it.

Marketing. Doesn't. Fix. Everything....

B) The game was crappier than you give it credit for. It wasn't polished crap, because it wasn't even polished. Did it have awesome qualities that none of us have found in other games? Absolutely. Did that negate the glitches, the brokenness, the complete mess that was much of the coding in Dust? No.

C) This game isn't meant to be a one and done deal. Stop spreading the notion that just because something isn't in the game at release you will never see it. EVE doesn't look like it did when it first started. WoW is so different a game from it's release. The intention is to create something that will be around for years. A foundation to be built upon. By it's nature it will be iterative.

Is it reasonable to be concerned that the game will fail, and the fullness of Nova doesn't get realised? Yes.

Is it reasonable to say that just because something isn't in the game at the beginning, then CCP must intend the game to never have ever, in the many years that could possibly come for Nova? No.

I get it. You are nervous. You have every right to be.

But for F*cks sake, stop it with the apocalyptic talk. Stop exaggerating to the point of being ludicrous. Stop jumping to conclusions when you don't have a whit of evidence about anything.

We need your input, but if you are going to make such ridiculous conclusions, and make baseless exaggerations you aren't going to provide any useful ideas.

Get ahold of yourselves!!

*End old man rant*

And what Dust was supposed to be...was better than what Dust was.

So yeah, I want it to be better.

I feel like buying into a new 10 year plan is just as silly as thinking the game will burn as soon as its launched. We dont know enough to say anything other than how the general direction makes us feel.

That was rational as ****. Im proud of you.

Dust was an unapologetic ba514rd.

Nova really, really wants everybody to like it.

That was rational as ****. Im proud of you.

*throws tables across the room*

I WANT MY DROPSHIP AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!

Dust was an unapologetic ba514rd.

Nova really, really wants everybody to like it.

Best analysis I've seen yet

You're not allahhu Ackbar!