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Clone D Solo Zen 2220	Posted - 2017.05.18 02:45:00 - [1] - Quote One of the most immersive aspects of Dust was piloting vehicles. It was a change of pace from foot soldiering and it added context. The various flavors of dropships, tanks, HAVs and jeeps were a novelty. If I imagine Dust without vehicles, then I sense that a great deal of depth would have been lost to a drab motionless wasteland. I hope that Nova will be equipped with vehicles on its inaugural day. Without vehicles, the game will be a step back into a flatter dimension; a world without perspective, dreams, or redemption. There was nothing like being pinned down, and then a buddy's dropship comes swooping in for the rescue, or getting stuck out in the open and behold a random blueberry tank rolls in between you and the enemy to provide cover. Vehicles are more than something to drive around or something different to do. They're a different form of immersive interaction with other players, opening the door to new possibilities and stimulating complexities. They are an essential element to the emotional entanglement of war. Without them, the battlefield can be a rather dull experience.
DUST Fiend 19165	Posted - 2017.05.18 02:46:00 - [2] - Quote My doctor says I can't engage in these discussions. Something about veins in my forehead exploding or something, I don't know. Rage flavored bitter berry
LHughes Dust Was Shite 590	Posted - 2017.05.18 02:49:00 - [3] - Quote 100% agree despite only using militia soma's when they were OP I bought a setup a month ago to start practicing with mouse and keyboard but if they announce this games more like COD than BF then I won't even bother playing it and will stick to console. My signature
DeadlyAztec11 10148	Posted - 2017.05.18 03:01:00 - [4] - Quote The head developer already said months ago that they were focusing on bringing the Dust experience to a wider audience by implementing ideas from mainstream shooters. He also said he wanted to scale down combat. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Clone D Solo Zen 2220	Posted - 2017.05.18 03:10:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The head developer already said months ago that they were focusing on bringing the Dust experience to a wider audience by implementing ideas from mainstream shooters. He also said he wanted to scale down combat. Should I interpret that to mean that CCP captured a certain niche with Dust 514, but now they are abandoning those unique elements that made the game special in their next iteration of the EVE FPS franchise, so that they can attempt to fit in with the big boys? Does this imply no vehicles?
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 1245	Posted - 2017.05.18 16:22:00 - [6] - Quote Rattati wasn't a fan of vehicles to begin with, then he had to deal with Spkr now we can't have nice things (No vehicles 'confirmed' in Nova) The Final PLC Kill Dust 514 - My Final Moments
Clone D Solo Zen 2225	Posted - 2017.05.18 17:36:00 - [7] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Rattati wasn't a fan of vehicles to begin with, then he had to deal with Spkr now we can't have nice things (No vehicles 'confirmed' in Nova) Well, that seals it for me. Good bye, my fellow mercenaries. I will see you in another field of battle. To Rattati: May baby dribbles find their way into your food, and may animals chew on your shoe laces. ... Can't even swim and thinks he can design a video game. Oh brother.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 9286	Posted - 2017.05.18 18:03:00 - [8] - Quote "Dropsuits are vehicles with legs. Period." - Sean Spicer EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Moorian Flav 656	Posted - 2017.05.18 18:40:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: "Dropsuits are vehicles with legs. Period." - Sean Spicer Nice PR skills. Nicely done. Thinking about dropsuits, CCP has often hinted at cybernetics beyond mere brain implants in EVE by showing cosmetics such as cybernetic arms. Therefore, in EVE's universe, all a merc really needs is a head to operate their dropsuit (like Futurama ). Without a human body to limit dropsuit design, dropsuits would really be mechs with limitless design freedom and destructive potential. But that would just be crazy, right? Better to just stick with the basics. CCP wants Nova to be more mainstream after all. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 1450	Posted - 2017.05.18 19:05:00 - [10] - Quote I want vehicles so I can SL them to oblivion Your friendly Pub match logi

DUST Fiend 19183	Posted - 2017.05.18 20:44:00 - [11] - Quote LOL KILLZ wrote: I want vehicles so I can SL them to oblivion I'm waiting to find a game that gives me that feeling I'd get fighting forge gunners with my Incubus. Glorious. Rage flavored bitter berry
DELB0Y 114	Posted - 2017.05.18 21:04:00 - [12] - Quote Clone D wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Rattati wasn't a fan of vehicles to begin with, then he had to deal with Spkr now we can't have nice things (No vehicles 'confirmed' in Nova) Well, that seals it for me. Good bye, my fellow mercenaries. I will see you in another field of battle. To Rattati: May baby dribbles find their way into your food, and may animals chew on your shoe laces. ... Can't even swim and thinks he can design a video game. Oh brother. Rofl, I forgot about Spkr. That child had issues. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
DeadlyAztec11 10151	Posted - 2017.05.18 21:59:00 - [13] - Quote Clone D wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The head developer already said months ago that they were focusing on bringing the Dust experience to a wider audience by implementing ideas from mainstream shooters. He also said he wanted to scale down combat. Should I interpret that to mean that CCP captured a certain niche with Dust 514, but now they are abandoning those unique elements that made the game special in their next iteration of the EVE FPS franchise, so that they can attempt to fit in with the big boys? Does this imply no vehicles? Vehicles is a hazy topic of discussion, but CCP really wants to net a profit and simply rebuilding Dust seems like a not so safe bet to them. So they want what's good about Dust plus whatever will bring in people. The head developer is not an experimental dreamer, he had called himself a realist. This is why Rattati also confirmed that fitting will most likely be simplified and therefore easier. This is precisely to attract more casual players who are not interested in the mechanics of fittings. Rattati recently confirmed that making the game more user friendly does factor into its development. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 1251	Posted - 2017.05.18 22:32:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Clone D wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The head developer already said months ago that they were focusing on bringing the Dust experience to a wider audience by implementing ideas from mainstream shooters. He also said he wanted to scale down combat. Should I interpret that to mean that CCP captured a certain niche with Dust 514, but now they are abandoning those unique elements that made the game special in their next iteration of the EVE FPS franchise, so that they can attempt to fit in with the big boys? Does this imply no vehicles? Vehicles is a hazy topic of discussion, but CCP really wants to net a profit and simply rebuilding Dust seems like a not so safe bet to them. So they want what's good about Dust plus whatever will bring in people. The head developer is not an experimental dreamer, he had called himself a realist. This is why Rattati also confirmed that fitting will most likely be simplified and therefore easier. This is precisely to attract more casual players who are not interested in the mechanics of fittings. Rattati recently confirmed that making the game more user friendly does factor into its development. I don't think they can afford to be 'safe' with Nova, they're not EA releasing another battlefield, they've got a tightrope to walk in making it accessible but retaining the depth of gameplay (that has kept us posting on the forums of a dead game for over a year) The Final PLC Kill Dust 514 - My Final Moments
Clone D Solo Zen 2228	Posted - 2017.05.18 23:14:00 - [15] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: ...Thinking about dropsuits, CCP has often hinted at cybernetics beyond mere brain implants in EVE by showing cosmetics such as cybernetic arms. Therefore, in EVE's universe, all a merc really needs is a head to operate their dropsuit (like Futurama ). Without a human body to limit dropsuit design, dropsuits would really be mechs with limitless design freedom and destructive potential. ... YESSSS! I am in alignment. Cultivate diversity. I want limitless design freedom and destructive potential. Thank you for this.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... 2758	Posted - 2017.05.19 20:54:00 - [16] - Quote At first I was adored with tanks. I played them until the end. But it was the Incubus that made me realize : this is the best this game can offer (for me ofc) . Playing only on foot will make me miss the sky even more. About the washed down fitting they want to make, I just hope it won't be something like : choose one of these few modules times x, done. No you can't use this, it would be too zany Vigilant Pilot Happy Hunting
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 552	Posted - 2017.05.19 21:49:00 - [17] - Quote I'll be honest I really didn't tank, and I could get to a roof top if I needed to in a ds. But realizing a new game without them seems dull and boring. Plus I need them to shoot the forge at!! When in doubt pull the forge out!! But we are all dead so who cares!
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 364	Posted - 2017.05.20 01:34:00 - [18] - Quote I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. #KeepDustInThePS3
Clone D Solo Zen 2237	Posted - 2017.05.20 02:30:00 - [19] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. Tough love, bro ... tough love. Sometimes people need to hear something that they don't want to. It might be difficult for me to push this info on them, knowing the fear and upset that they must feel, but ultimately getting this out in the open will help all of us in the long run. Respect and honesty 4 real yo
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1762	Posted - 2017.05.20 02:57:00 - [20] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. You think it's rude when people are talking about how much they enjoyed vehicles? Fuk you, it's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, Google dat sh! t. Also, nobody gives a sh! t what you rather log in and read. And what threat? The only poss threat in this thread is YOU. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 17165	Posted - 2017.05.20 04:58:00 - [21] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. You think it's rude when people are talking about how much they enjoyed vehicles? Fuk you, it's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, Google dat sh! t. Also, nobody gives a sh! t what you rather log in and read. And what threat? The only poss threat in this thread is YOU. "Freedom of speach" also means his freedom to disagree with your opinion. And no where in "freedom of speech" does it say your speech is free of consequences. Like people saying your idea is bad. You are contradicting your position by saying someone should shut up because they disagree and you have a right to your opinion. Of course, this might be entirely over your head. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1763	Posted - 2017.05.20 06:02:00 - [22] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. You think it's rude when people are talking about how much they enjoyed vehicles? Fuk you, it's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, Google dat sh! t. Also, nobody gives a sh! t what you rather log in and read. And what threat? The only poss threat in this thread is YOU. "Freedom of speach" also means his freedom to disagree with your opinion. And no where in "freedom of speech" does it say your speech is free of consequences. Like people saying your idea is bad. You are contradicting your position by saying someone should shut up because they disagree and you have a right to your opinion. Of course, this might be entirely over your head. Don't be silly one eye, eye don't want him/her /it to be quite or shut up. I was just giving my opinion about his opinion, but how astute of you to disect my nonsense with such precision! Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1884	Posted - 2017.05.20 09:28:00 - [23] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: At first I was adored with tanks. I played them until the end. But it was the Incubus that made me realize : this is the best this game can offer (for me ofc) . Playing only on foot will make me miss the sky even more. Gotta love the sky-bus, Python could only move vertically, but the bus danced through the air. bursts into tears I want mah dropship back!! DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. Theresa May confirmed... This is what she wants to stop people posting on the internet!! LHughes wrote: 100% agree despite only using militia soma's when they were OP I bought a setup a month ago to start practicing with mouse and keyboard but if they announce this games more like COD than BF then I won't even bother playing it and will stick to console. Love him or hate him (probably hate him) you can't deny the game will be worse off without Hughes.
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 364	Posted - 2017.05.20 17:35:00 - [24] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. You think it's rude when people are talking about how much they enjoyed vehicles? Fuk you, it's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, Google dat sh! t. Also, nobody gives a sh! t what you rather log in and read. And what threat? The only poss threat in this thread is YOU. There's a difference between "You shouldnt be allowed to say that" and "You shouldnt say that." The former goes against freedom of speech, and the latter does not. You are free to talk about vehicles all you want, what I'm saying is that you should not do it saying that them not being in the game from day 1 is a deal-breaker for you, and that you hope they will be. "Hey CCP I'm off because you are not including vehicles in the game" --> Ok "Hey CCP if you dont include vehicles in the game I'm off" --> Not Ok The first idea acknowledges what the devs have said, (that there will be no vehicles in the game for a long time, if ever,) and therefore it's a respectful way to give your opinion. The second idea ignores what the devs have stated, and therefore it is a rude way to give your opinion. (And I did mean to say thread instead of threat) #KeepDustInThePS3
Clone D Solo Zen 2241	Posted - 2017.05.20 17:45:00 - [25] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: You are free to talk about vehicles all you want, what I'm saying is that you should not do it saying that them not being in the game from day 1 is a deal-breaker for you, and that you hope they will be. "Hey CCP I'm off because you are not including vehicles in the game" --> Ok "Hey CCP if you dont include vehicles in the game I'm off" --> Not Ok Take a lesson from Captain Jack Sparrow, lad. "The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do." What a man should or shouldn't do only depends on the degree to which he conforms to a given social context. I'm just telling them how it really is, and I'm only one person, so I doubt that they will shed a single tear over my position. "Hey CCP if you do anything less that what Dust 514 did, then you are moving in a backward direction, and I most likely won't even pay attention to the release date of Nova, let alone play it." --> Okay by me. Stated by me. Approved by me.
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal 364	Posted - 2017.05.20 21:06:00 - [26] - Quote Clone D wrote: DiGreatDestroyer wrote: You are free to talk about vehicles all you want, what I'm saying is that you should not do it saying that them not being in the game from day 1 is a deal-breaker for you, and that you hope they will be. "Hey CCP I'm off because you are not including vehicles in the game" --> Ok "Hey CCP if you dont include vehicles in the game I'm off" --> Not Ok Take a lesson from Captain Jack Sparrow, lad. "The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do." What a man should or shouldn't do only depends on the degree to which he conforms to a given social context. "Hey CCP if you do anything less that what Dust 514 did, then you are moving in a backward direction, and I most likely won't even pay attention to the release date of Nova, let alone play it." --> Okay by me. Stated by me. Approved by me. While I agree with the idea behind this, that is to say, I dont believe in good and evil, keep this in mind: The Islamic State didn't do anything wrong, by our standards. What they did, they could do, right? Isn't that all that matters? The world is out to get them because they are going against our idea of how someone should behave. Thinking about what you should and shouldn't do is important as well. I told you why I think you shouldn't say that, whether you agree with me or not is up to you, that's your freedom. #KeepDustInThePS3
Clone D Solo Zen 2241	Posted - 2017.05.20 22:49:00 - [27] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: The world is out to get them because they are going against our idea of how someone should behave. Thinking about what you should and shouldn't do is important as well. I see. You're saying that from a moral standpoint, if I want to avoid the shock, aversion and disapproval of others which could karmically turn back to harm me, then I would do well to consider the feelings of those around me before I speak, thereby exercising courtesy, diplomacy and salutary intent. I absolutely agree in any other environment. These forums are a very special place where the bittervets lurk. And so, I leave you in peace, having heard and understood, but not heeded your message. I wish you well, my fellow humanitarian.
Maken Tosch DUST University 13765	Posted - 2017.05.21 00:02:00 - [28] - Quote You can talk about it all you want, but I think you're talking about it way too early. I would at least wait until AFTER they let people start alpha or beta testing Project Nova so that we can have an idea on how to base vehicle mechanics on and how to balance them. A little hard to imagine how a painting should look if we don't know what kind of paint we'll be able to use. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
DUST Fiend 19206	Posted - 2017.05.21 01:10:00 - [29] - Quote Ratatti has never been a fan of vehicles so at best we will be looking at a year or two post release before we might see a dumbed down power up version appear. None of the maps will likely ever support vehicles so all new maps will need to be made, along with all new game modes for them Simple truth is vehicle users arent welcome in Nova for the foreseeable future. Unless you listen to Sean Spicer, then theres so much vehicles Rage flavored bitter berry
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1151	Posted - 2017.05.23 06:07:00 - [30] - Quote DiGreatDestroyer wrote: I think it's rude to talk about how vehicles made everything better, and how much you enjoyed vehicles, and how lacking the new game will feel without vehicles, when they pretty much confirmed vehicles wont be in it. Let's say you are a dev. You see this threat. How would you feel? No matter how good the game you are making is, it wont be good enough because it doesn't have x. I'd rather enter the forums and read threads discussing things that will be in the game. Wait, let me see if I got this right. You are saying that it's rude to expect that the spiritual successor to Dust514 would have something in it that draw a lot of us to the game in the first place? It's a bit like saying that customers would be rude to complain if McDonald's switched from burgers and stuff to exclusively selling pizzas, or exclusively selling veggie food. Or customers would be rude complaining if EA killed off their BF franchise and replaced it something similar to CoD, or vice versa. If you have established a certain kind of audience for years, I think it's rude to do away with that and start appealing to a whole new kind or audience unless you REALLY have no choice in the matter.



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