This isn't really new news... We're you still actually hoping to have them at launch?

No I wasn't, but this is further indication that not only are vehicles not on the initial roadmap, they may very well not be on the road map at all.

I'm sorry if the one thing that truly made DUST special for me has been ripped away, likely never to return. I've been doing pretty good handling that lately, so please if you don't mind, don't rub salt in my wounds.

Thank you kindly.

Exactly. One web grenade and it would have been a whole 'nother story. Sill, i support wholeheartedly 'no vehicles' at launch.

Let's be honest, one of the many annoyances with vehicles, was the disparity between those who specced in fully and those who didn't spec into them at all.

The old "to kill a tank, you should bring out a tank" logic was flawed because people didn't want to have to spec into something just to kill it... And that's a lot of points to spend getting into a role that isn't useful in half the situations.

Don't get me wrong tho, those points were spent having fun, but as someone who enjoyed both ground and vehicle play it was kind of a pain having to spec into both.


I don't really care about fittings and ****, I liked the occasional teamwork and strategy that vehicles brought to the game, so I hope they add them back in and that any changes making vehicles more accessible make that better.

Though it does bother me, that the lack of vehicles on release, makes it likely we'll end up with tiny maps where "controlling the map" is less of a strategically moving your infantry to certain zones and more "hold this hallway with yo mass driver."



So yeah, please tell me we'll get decent sized maps, because even with infantry only, some of the tiny playable areas we ended up with in the end killed the fun in Dust.

It really did doom vehicle play, especially the moment they decided to go with the "Waves of Opportunity" philosophy for vehicles. This combined to lead to so many vehicle players who would either constantly retreat to the redline when threatened or on cooldown, or those who never left it. If you couldn't wander off and hide, and if players could call down their own installations and turrets like originally envisioned, much of these balance concerns evaporate.

It's just a shame that I have to drop $400 on a VR headset if I want to fly again in the EVE universe (EVE itself doesn't count lol)

If they want to take away the fun part of creating your own vehicle playstyle, it would be nice to get a sequential gamemode like Skirmish 1.0. Have the first phase be out in the wide open with a certain number of vehicles back at base, maybe players can buy "Pilots licenses" with ISK or through SP or something that gives them priority to vehicles, spawning them closer and removing a 30 second lockout from vehicles that non pilots enjoy. That first phase would be 2 parts where you push back the first fortifications and then the primary fortifications after that, using vehicles to help break walls and bridges and installations etc. Then the third phase you're storming a big ass fortress and there's no space for vehicles, it's all just indoor combat.

Dreaming is a frustrating thing lol. I just have to wait and see. Thankfully the state of the world has given me a different outlook on all this stuff, it would at least be nice to see some screenshots or something.

Anything.

No one at CCP has said that Nova will not have vehicles, ever. Rattati did say that they likely won't be there at initial release.

Consider that on Dust's release, suits did not have all 4 races for each. That was added later.

Nova, much like EVE, will be a persistent game.The game you see at release, should it release, will not be quite the same game you see one or several years after.

Try to keep some perspective.

I'm mostly at peace with it now, but I'll always be a rage flavored bitter vet at this point.

From my point of view it is JJ Abrams who is evil!

We were talking in discord earlier that it would make sense to create a separate SP pool for vehicles only, this would mean you are no longer forced to pick between a new suit or quicker turret rotation and therefore are not gimped if it's a non vehicle map

They never found out how to balance them though. Better off without them if they don't fit in the game.

As far as the " play another game / you're just bad / salt salt salt" comments, I can't believe people are still so butthurt about Dust.

My signature still hold true then.