Let's be honest, one of the many annoyances with vehicles, was the disparity between those who specced in fully and those who didn't spec into them at all.

The old "to kill a tank, you should bring out a tank" logic was flawed because people didn't want to have to spec into something just to kill it... And that's a lot of points to spend getting into a role that isn't useful in half the situations.

Don't get me wrong tho, those points were spent having fun, but as someone who enjoyed both ground and vehicle play it was kind of a pain having to spec into both.


I don't really care about fittings and ****, I liked the occasional teamwork and strategy that vehicles brought to the game, so I hope they add them back in and that any changes making vehicles more accessible make that better.

Though it does bother me, that the lack of vehicles on release, makes it likely we'll end up with tiny maps where "controlling the map" is less of a strategically moving your infantry to certain zones and more "hold this hallway with yo mass driver."



So yeah, please tell me we'll get decent sized maps, because even with infantry only, some of the tiny playable areas we ended up with in the end killed the fun in Dust.

That argument was stupid on both sides, but if i managed to get 3 proto packed AV grenades and proto 3 swarm shots into a tank, it should blow up. Especially if i smack it on the weak spot. AV wasn't cheap, less SP for sure, but in order to kill the tank you left yourself wide open to anyone with a decent gun meaning you'd die a lot.

One person who has no isk or SP investment shouldn't solo a tank, ever. But a person who has level 5 + proficiency in the AV weapon, AV grenades and a proto suit as well as the other skills to have a good fit should be able to, not a guaranteed kill but a very high chance.

Stupid hardener stacking ruined the fun, not vehicles. Vehicles should be in the game at some point and a balance between AV and vehicles needs to be made early.