Boo! Sure R&D for vehicles would be time ($) consuming and a balance factor. Hmm.
I think Eve does have over 50 main types of ship with over 100 variations.

Could we not at least have 8 vanilla types for ground operations?
As in a Lav and DS for 2 racial models? Earned with lol kill streaks or squad points ala OB Strikes.
Shouldn't Eve manufacture them to sell to Nova players?
Suppose it takes 4 more years on and lots of ($)whales to influence design content.

Are you devs really going to channel us players towards Eve/ valkyrie if we want to fly/ drive vehicles?
Copy and paste the vehicles we had, no skill variations.
Sell them for 29.95. You gets the cash we gets to drive you dig.

Sure I don't fully know what this Nova concept is going to be, Eve like without any machinery?
How's that work...I don't know. How big are the maps?
Any ways I'm not running for 3 to 5 minutes to flank.
Geez I'll settle for a scooter or phone booth teleporter.

That's a shame. The worst things about vehicles are pretty hard to fix though. Like most players not needing a dropship pilot because they just crash land their own and lavs running over people instead of using the gunning seat.

The only way you can make vehicles work is by really constricting their deployment rate and location, but you'll get the issue of people waiting at the base so they can call in their vehicle. The odd solution would be to have matchmaking pick a few designated vehicle pilots (having the player set their preferred playstyle through options), but then people would probably ditch the game if they didn't get their desired role.

If anything vehicles might only work within that old eve legion sandbox gametype that is most likely scrapped. It really seems like ccp as a whole is trading doing most things wrong into getting one thing right. I just hope those one things eventually add up.

Imbalance was almost a good thing in DUST. I feel like you cant have a customizable market driven shooter thats also totally balanced.

Better matchmaking would certainly help but you had to change your playstyle to adapt to the situation. If i start the match with my AV Incubus and scare away all vehicles, i switch to missile python until AV becomes too strong then I switch infantry if its that bad, or perhaps to my Tank to draw AV closer to my infantry.

If i see the entire team is decked out in great gear, i can choose to try and make them pay for it by putting on my sunday best, or trolling them in free suits. If i see the enemy team stacked with tanks and i cant break their line with my AV Incubus i load up my LAV with boom booms and go for the hug, or sneak around with my scout and lay traps for them or ambush them.

I fear Nova will lose most if not all of this dynamic, allowing everyone to be their own personal rambo and taking any thought left in the game out of the game.

It's far too early still to speculate one way or the other, I'll always be a bitter vet and may very well not even get into Nova if its scale is too small, but I don't want to sit here screaming at shadows.

We'll just have to wait and see what ends up happening. All I know is if you played DUST for vehicles, you aren't welcome in Nova, not for quite some time anyways.

Imbalance is bad. Sure, if you are talking real life, you don't want to fight a war on an even playing field.

Games aren't real life, they are entertainment. Unbalanced games fail because fewer people are having fun than are frustrated. Part of the reason Dust failed was due to its inability to retain players, which was at least in part due to imbalance.

I hated my Scout being OP even more than I hated early on when it was difficult.

What good would it be to finally have vehicles if your dropship full of gunners could easily be taken out by a single militia swarm so far out that you couldn't even see him or have a chance to evade? You wouldn't play that, nor should you be expected to.

Let's not kid ourselves and expect Nova to exist and thrive without balance. And if occasional nerfs and buffs are needed, so be it.

The good thing about Nova being on PC is that they can have test servers to try things out before they release to everyone. Maybe that way we can avoid some of the more extreme nerfs/buffs that resulted in OP/UP items doing a 180.

Well, I'm not a player that came to Dust from EVE, but to me one of the most intiguing aspects of Dust battles was the feel of escalation. The match may have started out small with everyone using relatively rubbish stuff and then someone brings in something more powerful than others have and after that someone brings in something even more powerful to "counter" that and so on until everyone and their mothers are competing to bring in the strongest stuff available.
And because everything had a price it was quite satisfying to get kills and you could feel the blow if you died, especially as a vehicle pilot.
I fear Nova will not be able to capture this feel either if they are going too small and for too much balance.

Banks nerf interest on savings... All the time.

Catch man-flu, nature has temporarily nerfed you.

Bought yourself a VW car recently... It's emission stats totally got nerfed.

Transportation nerfs... Public transport never gets buffed, it gets more expensive, but it only ever gets worse.


And that big bomb 'Murica dropped, totally nerfed some durka durka tunnels.

I'll be the captain obvious here and say that I'm sure he/she meant warfare. Stuff gets "banned" but never nerfed, or maybe it does, idk.

True, true... But in the real world example who is CCP? It's not like Galente got together and said "Bro, these scrubs are going down too easy, lets make our tank only move forwards and backwards like a tonka toy, to try and make things more interesting."

Obviously if the factions had the power of CCP we'd have a sniper-shotgun-HMG hybrid that makes redline warfare super fun... And if 'Murica had the same powers someone would have hit alt-f4 on life by now.

Then they shouldn't develop a game? O.o