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knight guard fury
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
1770
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Posted - 2017.01.15 01:16:00 -
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As we were discussing things in the discord it got me interested again in how things could be in nova if/when that happens.
I havent posted in the dust forums in a while so im going to just get right into this.
all in all it should similar to EVE in terms of mechanics and gameplay
Dropsuits
- instead of all tiers of dropsuits being able to be used in pubs, it could be based on what sec status your fighting in.
for example low/null there are no limits, .5-.6 limited up to advanced and .7 and up you are limited up to advanced.
- the only non bonused suit would be militia which is equivilant to corvettes
-basic frames (instead of no bonus) have only a class bonus for thier race.
-specialized suits have a slightly different look but still the same base stats and class bonus but with a specialized bonus.
-anything t3 (if there were any) have thier own bonus' and base stats depending on what it is (sort of like t3 cruisers or dessies)
for t3 dropsuits, similar to eve in a way, have a different skill set specific to the T3 and when lost one of them skill points is lost. giving people a reason to not use this in so commonly in pubs, but more for PC or FW.
Modules
- instead of the base modules we had we could have them in different sizes for different classes and etc.
for example for shields and armor, small, medium, large for light, medium, heavy frames
- each and every class can fit any of the other sizes but if its class is smaller than the modules recommended size than it can be fitted at the cost of pg or cpu.
- repair tools can keep thier short range, but each of the logi's should have a shield or armour repair range and repair amount.
Passive skill points
-if kept, keep it to one character per account.
- something similar to eve if we want more than one account to be able to have multiple clones gain passive SP then have some sort of multi clone training like the Pilot's service for multi pilot training.
- do away with instant training of skills, and implement the training que of some sort.
cant remember if im missing anything but im sure i got the majority down.
Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic
Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2519
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Posted - 2017.01.15 01:56:00 -
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Nice
Im a hypocrite bite me.
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Russel Moralles
Klandatu
135
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Posted - 2017.01.15 07:50:00 -
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all of the above and,
make nova like eve subscription,
alpha and omega clone model,
nova alpha clones can only use militia and basic stuff,
but can join fw and pc,
make isk and aurum equal in both games,
to make the connection to eve and nova perfect,
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
3015
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Posted - 2017.01.15 18:21:00 -
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Russel Moralles wrote:make nova like eve subscription,
What??? NO! YOU SCUMBAG!
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Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
8579
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Posted - 2017.01.15 21:43:00 -
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Why do people keep recommending a hybrid subscription model? I really don't think CCP needs that in order to profit from Nova.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
3016
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Posted - 2017.01.15 22:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Why do people keep recommending a hybrid subscription model? I really don't think CCP needs that in order to profit from Nova.
Yeah just make the SP earning really tedious and lengthy for the non-payers, and let people pay for SP boosters.
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS
The Red Skull
730
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Posted - 2017.01.15 22:37:00 -
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Russel Moralles wrote:make nova like eve subscription.
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Mobius Wyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
8581
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Posted - 2017.01.16 01:24:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Why do people keep recommending a hybrid subscription model? I really don't think CCP needs that in order to profit from Nova. Yeah just make the SP earning really tedious and lengthy for the non-payers, and let people pay for SP boosters.
...why? Why not just have a standard F2P model? Why bother trying to work a subscription into it?
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Loaded'Horn
SPACE CASE INC
233
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Posted - 2017.01.16 03:33:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Why do people keep recommending a hybrid subscription model? I really don't think CCP needs that in order to profit from Nova. Yeah just make the SP earning really tedious and lengthy for the non-payers, and let people pay for SP boosters.
Not like we haven't delt with that before, oh wait, I have in a FTP, voluntary micro trans for boosts, it was called Dust.(WOT)
It was only truly fair if you could pay. I did pay to play, for my character and to support game development. About 300 bones over 3 years. And I would do it again. How else can a game be built and paid for?
I personally can afford to pay up front for a one time purchase. Like finished games used to be.
And honestly I liked the monetary model CCP had for dust, it was (un)fairly reasonable for what one recieved and good in the fact you always needed more to feed your char quick, and at least for me you had to spend more to compete. It seems everyone did have more than you, to have more options faster in game. SP made the game great, also was its down fall. Shrugs.
Blinded by a 10 year plan I suppose. I hate marketing BS now more than ever lul. There is very little trust left for consumers IMO. Thanks CCP for trying, but we didn't have that big finish together. You were a sweet talkin bi tch
Nova better put out or get out, if she wants ride with me.
First day open beta. I used to play for the points.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10656
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Posted - 2017.01.16 03:57:00 -
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I don't know about you guys, but I'd like to see tiercide.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2017.01.16 03:57:00 -
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IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them.
(Former) CPM2 Representative for Dust 514 and Project Nova
Twitter: @Aeon_Amadi
Eve: Nomistrav
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8899
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Posted - 2017.01.16 04:10:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them.
I hate when I agree with you.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
3018
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:06:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Why do people keep recommending a hybrid subscription model? I really don't think CCP needs that in order to profit from Nova. Yeah just make the SP earning really tedious and lengthy for the non-payers, and let people pay for SP boosters. ...why? Why not just have a standard F2P model? Why bother trying to work a subscription into it?
Wasn't that exactly how dust worked?
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knight guard fury
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
1774
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Posted - 2017.01.19 18:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them.
I was thinking more in line with EVE. theres the one and only base suit, then theres tech 2 and 3 which all have different roles and playstles to them. so that way we still get a variety of gameplay and nothing is truely OP compared to the others. just better gains to using one thing over the other. (Also an insane but tolerable isk price for T2 and 3)
Kin of the Vherokior tribe and warrior of the republic
Self proclaimed minmatar lore master
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Aeon Amadi
13999
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Posted - 2017.01.20 03:13:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them. I was thinking more in line with EVE. theres the one and only base suit, then theres tech 2 and 3 which all have different roles and playstles to them. so that way we still get a variety of gameplay and nothing is truely OP compared to the others. just better gains to using one thing over the other. (Also an insane but tolerable isk price for T2 and 3)
Hard to make new roles for a FPS game. It pretty much revolves around killing, how to kill, how to help kill, or how to prevent killing. Would probably need to design roles around gameplay outside of that, but then you'd need to design gameplay outside of that core element as well.
As an example: if Eve didn't have Industry, mining/industrial ships wouldn't be necessary.
(Former) CPM2 Representative for Dust 514 and Project Nova
Twitter: @Aeon_Amadi
Eve: Nomistrav
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2520
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Posted - 2017.01.20 03:22:00 -
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Don't let this thread sink guys
Im a hypocrite bite me.
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Russel Moralles
Klandatu
140
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Posted - 2017.01.21 04:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:knight guard fury wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them. I was thinking more in line with EVE. theres the one and only base suit, then theres tech 2 and 3 which all have different roles and playstles to them. so that way we still get a variety of gameplay and nothing is truely OP compared to the others. just better gains to using one thing over the other. (Also an insane but tolerable isk price for T2 and 3) Hard to make new roles for a FPS game. It pretty much revolves around killing, how to kill, how to help kill, or how to prevent killing. Would probably need to design roles around gameplay outside of that, but then you'd need to design gameplay outside of that core element as well. As an example: if Eve didn't have Industry, mining/industrial ships wouldn't be necessary.
are you a freaking dev, coz you sound like a dev.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
3198
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Posted - 2017.01.22 15:01:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them. I hate when I agree with you.
I think the powercore implementation would have worked fine, so long as the tiers of cores were fairly tightly spaced in what they added to fitting space.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
16269
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Posted - 2017.01.22 16:21:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:IMO, ideally there shouldn't be tiers of dropsuits at all. Only tiers of the gear fitted to them. I hate when I agree with you. I think the powercore implementation would have worked fine, so long as the tiers of cores were fairly tightly spaced in what they added to fitting space.
Power cores were an idea to make Dust work on the PS3. I don't think something like that will be necessary on PC, but o do hope that they keep a system that at least has the potential for a port, ie something not so ridiculously inefficient.
I also hope we get back to something where decisions matter, where people can't simply have a closetful of different photon classes to FotM chase, and that the high end gear being used in game is not the norm, and isn't profitable outside high end game modes.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
1256
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Posted - 2017.01.23 05:32:00 -
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I'd like to see a salvager soldier on the battlefield. Salvaging your dead clone Nanites for ammo to make other useful battle stuff.
Dustkillz and chill
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
5152
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Posted - 2017.01.23 23:34:00 -
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can quafe weapons plz shoot purpel or grean? or maybe original pink
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2520
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Posted - 2017.01.26 17:24:00 -
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Do t
Im a hypocrite bite me.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2520
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Nova ftw tea
Im a hypocrite bite me.
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Clone D
Solo Zen
2164
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Posted - 2017.01.27 13:16:00 -
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I heard rumor of a 90 minute NOVA tea bagging gag reel that was going around internally at CCP. Apparently tea bagging was going to be a pivotal aspect of the game. I don't know the intended mechanic there, but the vid included graphically detailed scrotes that were available with a variety of upgrades, even quafe. God, I hope this doesn't make it into the final cut. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
8036
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Posted - 2017.01.27 13:22:00 -
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Two comments on the original post:
1) On gear restrictions in High Sec, I suppose that would be because Proto gear is restricted to Government Military and Concord only. Such restrictions would not be applied in Low or Null Sec.
2) Switching from instant trained skills using save up skill points to a training queue would help to dampen Flavor of the Month chasing.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2520
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Posted - 2017.01.28 21:31:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Two comments on the original post:
1) On gear restrictions in High Sec, I suppose that would be because Proto gear is restricted to Government Military and Concord only. Such restrictions would not be applied in Low or Null Sec. (Sometimes I just feel the need to supply an RP explanation for people's suggested game mechanics.)
2) Switching from instant trained skills using save up skill points to a training queue would help to dampen Flavor of the Month chasing.
Love it
Im a hypocrite bite me.
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General Vahzz
Phydra
1101
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Posted - 2017.02.01 04:19:00 -
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W3NGäó
Friendly Neighborhood Vahzz Alt
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