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Talos Vagheitan wrote:

cmdr dunce wrote:

I think we would be better off if people started a project in UE4 that is directly inspired by dust 514, rather than spending creative energy and wasted time making imitation levels on halo that will only feel like 1/100 like the real thing, and will fundamentally still play and feel like halo 5. Pour your energy in a proper homage or game, in a real game engine. just find a decent programmer or learn blueprint ( unreal's special flow chart code) rather than trying to force halo to be something its not.

The idea isn't necessarily to re-create the original Dust experience 100%.

Rather, just to take advantage of a great set of tools we already have at our disposal to reasonably emulate original Dust. The Halo Forge is actually pretty robust, with scripting support, object welding etc. and a large dedicated community who are constantly uploading new creative things.

Besides, I already spend a lot of time making custom things in this level editor.

Also, I think you really under-estimate how much work is involved in creating a game from scratch. Trying to make a Dust-inspired game from scratch, as a group of rag-tag volunteers, while the professionals are (allegedly) working on the very same thing.... now that would just be silly.

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Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 17:40:00 - [1] - Quote Well not quite, but hopefully we can get close. Halo 5 has a pretty sophisticated level editor. Long story short, we can rebuild all the Dust assets and even maps from scratch if we want to. I was messing around in the Halo Forge for about an hour this AM and the results are promising. I'll show some screens, they're all works in progress of course and need painting etc. Scales were also eye-balled. If you're willing to help please let me know. Once we have the assets and maps complete we can re-create the original Dust experience by editing player traits to reduce jump height to 10%, placing invisible path-blockers all over the map randomly, slowing everybody down, and making sure to all stream 10 Youtube video's at once to create lag. Add me on XB: Waagenator Screenshots (All WIP) Tabletop http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/tabletop_zpsrwtjnzpj.png.html?sort=3&o=5 A few Covenant assets re-painted green to look Gallente-ish http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/gallente_zpsvcxk3gfk.png.html?sort=3&o=3 Large Trapezoid http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/trapezoid_zpsyy7dblpd.png.html?sort=3&o=0 Same http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/trap_zpsvbenuffv.png.html?sort=3&o=1 Medium Socket http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/socket_zpsdtm8fl1l.png.html?sort=3&o=2 Pipes http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/pipes_zps0lw3ep4i.png.html?sort=3&o=4 Volunteers needed. Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
ZED Regent Acid Tech 303 823	Posted - 2017.01.05 17:48:00 - [2] - Quote Looks promising... Still on PS3 tho... ( i'm broke ) Not dead, yet..... Currently playing the mini-game EvE-Online....
Aeon Amadi 13985	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:02:00 - [3] - Quote Don't have an XBONE or Halo 5, but I'd help where I can! (Former) CPM2 Representative for Dust 514 and Project Nova Twitter: @Aeon_Amadi Eve: Nomistrav
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:17:00 - [4] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Don't have an XBONE or Halo 5, but I'd help where I can! As an ex-CPM do you have access to any good socket photos for reference? I've scoured google image searches and have resorted to pausing Youtube videos of Dust to remember what these damn things looked like. Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
cmdr dunce Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:22:00 - [5] - Quote I think we would be better off if people started a project in UE4 that is directly inspired by dust 514, rather than spending creative energy and wasted time making imitation levels on halo that will only feel like 1/100 like the real thing, and will fundamentally still play and feel like halo 5. Pour your energy in a proper homage or game, in a real game engine. just find a decent programmer or learn blueprint ( unreal's special flow chart code) rather than trying to force halo to be something its not.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:29:00 - [6] - Quote cmdr dunce wrote: I think we would be better off if people started a project in UE4 that is directly inspired by dust 514, rather than spending creative energy and wasted time making imitation levels on halo that will only feel like 1/100 like the real thing, and will fundamentally still play and feel like halo 5. Pour your energy in a proper homage or game, in a real game engine. just find a decent programmer or learn blueprint ( unreal's special flow chart code) rather than trying to force halo to be something its not. The idea isn't necessarily to re-create the original Dust experience 100%. Rather, just to take advantage of a great set of tools we already have at our disposal to reasonably emulate original Dust. The Halo Forge is actually pretty robust, with scripting support, object welding etc. and a large dedicated community who are constantly uploading new creative things. Besides, I already spend a lot of time making custom things in this level editor. Also, I think you really under-estimate how much work is involved in creating a game from scratch. Trying to make a Dust-inspired game from scratch, as a group of rag-tag volunteers, while the professionals are (allegedly) working on the very same thing.... now that would just be silly. Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
cmdr dunce Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:35:00 - [7] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: cmdr dunce wrote: I think we would be better off if people started a project in UE4 that is directly inspired by dust 514, rather than spending creative energy and wasted time making imitation levels on halo that will only feel like 1/100 like the real thing, and will fundamentally still play and feel like halo 5. Pour your energy in a proper homage or game, in a real game engine. just find a decent programmer or learn blueprint ( unreal's special flow chart code) rather than trying to force halo to be something its not. The idea isn't necessarily to re-create the original Dust experience 100%. Rather, just to take advantage of a great set of tools we already have at our disposal to reasonably emulate original Dust. The Halo Forge is actually pretty robust, with scripting support, object welding etc. and a large dedicated community who are constantly uploading new creative things. Besides, I already spend a lot of time making custom things in this level editor. Also, I think you really under-estimate how much work is involved in creating a game from scratch. Trying to make a Dust-inspired game from scratch, as a group of rag-tag volunteers, while the professionals are (allegedly) working on the very same thing.... now that would just be silly. "The idea isn't necessarily to re-create the original Dust experience 100%." I didn't say you had to, but with halo forge, you probably couldn't even get 10% close. I'm saying why waste such energy on trying to recreate dust in halo forge when you can do it in UE4? "now that would just be silly" trying to recreate dust in Halo is just as silly, if not more... "Also, I think you really underestimate how much work is involved in creating a game from scratch" you underestimate the power of rag-tag volunteers. a lot of games came about like this.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:35:00 - [8] - Quote If you want to help, I've just learned that the Halo 5 forge is in fact FREE for download on windows. https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/store/p/halo-5-forge-bundle/9nblggh4v0fr Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:37:00 - [9] - Quote cmdr dunce wrote: . Opinion noted Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
cmdr dunce Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.01.05 18:40:00 - [10] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: cmdr dunce wrote: . Opinion noted I'm sorry you can't handle criticism.

Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 19:49:00 - [11] - Quote Quick update. In another half hour showing some more promising results. Here's the container underneath tabletop, with Domination Terminal scripted to be captured by either team and start accumulating score by the team who captures. (WIP CRU in the background) http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/Screenshot-Original_zps71vgwafp.png.html?o=0 Here is the WIP CRU which acts as a spawn point and can be captured by either team. (Spawn volume not visible in game) http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/Screensho123t-Original_zpsmzlyifxg.png.html?o=2 Overall progress shot http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/Screenshot-Original222_zpsc3t0c6bq.png.html?o=1 Editor also capable of custom player loadouts which is cool. So for example at match start you can choose a customized loadout with specific player traits based on the Dust factions Caldari: Stronger shields, long range weapon, lower armor, grey armor Amarr: Beam weapon start, gold armor Min: Faster speed, more shields, higher jump height (lol) Gal: Slow speed, less shields etc... Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 13290	Posted - 2017.01.05 19:56:00 - [12] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: cmdr dunce wrote: . Opinion noted And summarily dismissed. Have fun tinkering. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
Moorian Flav 425	Posted - 2017.01.05 20:13:00 - [13] - Quote DUST is gone. Stop trying to recreate what DUST was. If you want something close to what you experienced with DUST, get with some of the players you used to play DUST with and find out what they are playing. That's likely as close as you are going to get until Project Nova comes out. And if you do do that, you will at least have some friends to move onto Nova with. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 20:31:00 - [14] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: If you want something close to what you experienced with DUST, get with some of the players you used to play DUST with and find out what they are playing. . That's a great idea. Why don't you click the link in my signature and join the Dust Steam I created with over 100 members and play some games with us. Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
Soraya Xel Random Gunz 6961	Posted - 2017.01.05 22:52:00 - [15] - Quote Photobucket's loading super slow for me, but what I saw looks pretty neat. I'll probably mention this on this weekend's Biomassed, because it's cool. Also, I hadn't heard about the Steam group, I'll join up when I get home. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 4515	Posted - 2017.01.05 23:00:00 - [16] - Quote I see you every week trying to sell another game. Where can I apply ? It's been an honor, friends.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3033	Posted - 2017.01.05 23:30:00 - [17] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: I see you every week trying to sell another game. Where can I apply ? I dunno man, but steam does have a sale right now on a cool sci-fi RTS called Planetary Annihilation: Titans. 85% off! I couldn't resist. I'll send you my review if you like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQi1mP5V6Vw Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8851	Posted - 2017.01.06 02:52:00 - [18] - Quote Reminds me a bit of the Dust inspired PvE experience I've been working on in SnapMap. Seems interesting enough, shoot me an email at [email protected] with details on what you need. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3039	Posted - 2017.01.06 19:32:00 - [19] - Quote Couple new progress shots. If anyone wants to download the FREE halo 5 forge tool and help build some sockets you are more than welcome Alternatively, if you can find good photos of medium/small sockets, installations, MCC's, buildings etc would also be appreciated! Thanks http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/asdfe_zps6igqgcds.png.html?sort=3&o=0 http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/feee_zpswx2zsrm1.png.html?sort=3&o=1 http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/media/aws_zpsgcqe7y0b.png.html?sort=3&o=2 Join the DUST STEAM GROUP
Aeon Amadi 13986	Posted - 2017.01.07 19:08:00 - [20] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Don't have an XBONE or Halo 5, but I'd help where I can! As an ex-CPM do you have access to any good socket photos for reference? I've scoured google image searches and have resorted to pausing Youtube videos of Dust to remember what these damn things looked like. I'll batphone CCP Logicloop, see what he's got. (Former) CPM2 Representative for Dust 514 and Project Nova Twitter: @Aeon_Amadi Eve: Nomistrav

cmdr dunce Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2017.01.08 23:37:00 - [21] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: cmdr dunce wrote: . Opinion noted And summarily dismissed. Have fun tinkering. He didn't dismiss ****. he is just too much of a coward to confront the criticism against his stupid idea.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3056	Posted - 2017.01.09 00:18:00 - [22] - Quote cmdr dunce wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: cmdr dunce wrote: . Opinion noted And summarily dismissed. Have fun tinkering. He didn't dismiss ****. he is just too much of a coward to confront the criticism against his stupid idea. yawn Join the DUST STEAM GROUP 100+ members and growing!
MEGA MAN7 Mr.Orange 88	Posted - 2017.01.09 00:52:00 - [23] - Quote cmdr dunce wrote: I'm saying why waste such energy on trying to recreate dust in halo forge when you can do it in UE4 with much better results even if you don't make as good of a game as the original dust? Sorry to tell you this that way, but you're wrong. It takes more time and energy to even make anything in UE4 playable, not to mention that you have to 3D model everything yourself (if you haven't paid the monthly price for assets to use). Another Dust YouTuber already tried to do this project on UE4 and the result doesn't look playable, although he was working on it for a whole month : https://youtu.be/K6tlGKrig_o Furthermore everyone would have to play it on DEV mode and offline. I say that Talos Vagheitan found the best and easiest way for us to complete this project, considering that most of us have little to no programming skills. That way every one can discover how it is to create a videogame level, so that every one can express their ideas and have fun with the final result. Me checking the forums be like :
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 3081	Posted - 2017.01.11 23:47:00 - [24] - Quote New update photos. Worked on the medium socket http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/trwaage/library/?view=recent&page=1 Newest pics all here Join the DUST STEAM GROUP 100+ members and growing!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 8031	Posted - 2017.01.23 14:24:00 - [25] - Quote Cool. Close enough to make me nostalgic. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 5142	Posted - 2017.01.23 23:27:00 - [26] - Quote whut CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 7365	Posted - 2017.01.25 04:00:00 - [27] - Quote cmdr dunce wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: cmdr dunce wrote: . Opinion noted I'm sorry you can't handle criticism. Criticism? clearly he already knew what you stated and doesn't have the resources or doesn't want to do it that way but hey if you want it so bad why don't you do it breh


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