DUST Search - Lets speculate the likelihood of vehicles in Nova

Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

The most important factor though is that the Game is successful on release, so it is worth putting more Dev time into.

Wouldn't the game be more successful if it was pretty much complete upon release?

Other games that are released half-baked with promises of including the rest of the features later tend not to do well. No Man's Sky is a great example of this.

I don't understand why any games company - or any company for that matter - would rush to release a product that isn't ready. The product can only make one first impact, and it will be weakened by releasing prematurely. I would much rather wait for most of the features to be ready than demand the game be rushed to release. That's what happened with DUST.

I suppose it depends how integral you think CCP intends vehicles/planetary conquest/map variety/etc to be. If they're solely marketing on gameplay like Overwatch did, then they can afford to release with just a great shooter experience and add the rest on later.

I just hope Nova isn't just a 'great shooter experience' but nothing else, and I hope that vehicles/planetary conquest/whatever won't just be a fad, an afterthought.


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One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16158	Posted - 2016.11.25 21:45:00 - [1] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: The most important factor though is that the Game is successful on release, so it is worth putting more Dev time into. Wouldn't the game be more successful if it was pretty much complete upon release? Other games that are released half-baked with promises of including the rest of the features later tend not to do well. No Man's Sky is a great example of this. I don't understand why any games company - or any company for that matter - would rush to release a product that isn't ready. The product can only make one first impact, and it will be weakened by releasing prematurely. I would much rather wait for most of the features to be ready than demand the game be rushed to release. That's what happened with DUST. I suppose it depends how integral you think CCP intends vehicles/planetary conquest/map variety/etc to be. If they're solely marketing on gameplay like Overwatch did, then they can afford to release with just a great shooter experience and add the rest on later. I just hope Nova isn't just a 'great shooter experience' but nothing else, and I hope that vehicles/planetary conquest/whatever won't just be a fad, an afterthought. It is a matter of business. If you wait until everything is perfect, then a game would never get released. Look at EVE. The game's most recent release would not have been possible had it not been for all the years previous in which to earn revenue and build releases upon one another and iterate. Dust is what happens when developers' focus is all over the map. The part that we had to play was not fun, and it ended up with extra bits that were never used because at the beginning of the game, they had built things that weren't ready to be used. Resources are scarce, and money doesn't grow on trees. By focusing on a very good foundation, like what is hopefully being done with Nova, CCP is focusing its resources and getting the most out of them. Then as people play, and enjoy the game, and give them feedback, and CCP earns money as a result, that money can be reinvested in more resources and more time in which to make additions and corrections based upon the feedback. As far as the OP goes, I think using the term "final product" was perhaps poor phrasing. If Nova is done correctly, there will likely not be a "final product" anymore then there has been a "final product" with EVE or WoW. These kinds of games aren't meant to have a set finality. They will continue so long as the companies can find new things to add, and ways to make the game fresh, and so long as those changes make enough money to make future development possible. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16158	Posted - 2016.11.25 22:23:00 - [2] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Resources are scarce, and money doesn't grow on trees. I call bullshit on this excuse. CCP has the money that if they considered this franchise to be as strong as it likely is (when properly done), they would put a stronger focus on it. The simple fact is that it's not a priority. Thankfully it hasn't been removed from play, but it's not exactly leading the charge. If CCP really wanted to make DUST great again, they would put more resources into it while simultaneously launching a crowd funding campaign for it. They aren't doing either (I could be wrong about the first, I don't know their finances), so honestly any form of speculation at this point is pointless amusement. We just have to wait and see what they give us, and go from there. They already dumped resources into the crapfest that was Dust, and if it wasn't for Rattati pulling out out of a nose dive, it would have been killed a long time ago with no hope of a resurrection. CCP is once bitten twice shy. If you had invested a lot of your savings into something you thought was going to be a great product, but turned out to lose almost all, if not all of your investment because it was poorly executed, you would be really hesitant if someone else tried to get you to invest in something similar. You might try and take a lower risk option like saying, "Hey, here is a little, prove to me you are more than just talk, and then maybe we will invest more." It is actually common sense. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16158	Posted - 2016.11.25 23:15:00 - [3] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: One Eyed King wrote: It is actually common sense. They can take whatever aproach makes them most comfortable, it's their IP and they're free to do with it as they please, up to and including killing it. I've just always been put off by CCPs willingness to pull back from the game so I'm basically always advocating for putting a strong focus on the games development. Honestly though, I don't have enough time in the day for all the **** I want to play already. Backlog is obnoxious and I spend most of my time lately in Skyrim CK. I just had such great memories here, even the terrible ones, and I worry that CCP is going to take a more casual approach to the game. Not to mention I'm obviously buttmad about vehicles since it's really the only thing that kept me in the game anyways. Just a randoms opinion, I hope for the best but I've already endured the worst so BRING IT. For the record I also think it is common sense for any Dust Bunnies to be wary. I do hope for the sake of all the pilots that vehicles can be put in as soon as they reasonably can. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.