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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.12 07:45:00 -
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I like the idea!
But, of course I have a question. How do we use our Dust mercs in EvE or are you planning we set up new accounts? |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1210
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Posted - 2016.10.12 12:22:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:I like the idea!
But, of course I have a question. How do we use our Dust mercs in EvE or are you planning we set up new accounts? Devs are helpful there and can 'shift' your clone to another corporation if you ask. Also Devs can start using 'reborn' charcter entry to puting your old character name here and start fresh one. I don't want a "fresh one" with my old name. I want my old character, but I want her flying ships in EvE as well as shooting guns in Nova. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.13 00:06:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:I like the idea!
But, of course I have a question. How do we use our Dust mercs in EvE or are you planning we set up new accounts? Yes, I'm planning that we all make new accounts (unless of course you already own an EVE character. All the great corporations out there, Goonswarm, TEST, NC., they all started somewhere, and so it shall be with us. As someone who has started 10 or so different trial accounts in EVE since Dust's death, I know that the game is VERY confusing without any help, but once I found someone to tutor me and mentor me, life became so much easier! This will be one of the advantages of making a corp, so that friends can help friends out. With Clone States, there is no reason to NOT make a new character, and you have unlimited time to earn a PLEX! Speaking of PLEX, I am going to be implementing a PLEX based jackpot once the corporation has enough money. Of course all profits will go towards the corp and its funding. I already have a number of EvE accounts so I won't be creating any new ones. I do have a completely "unaligned" Gallente Pilot, Jenquilla Viliana, who I could probably join up to the corp, and thereby help out with training of rookies.
My EvE main, Nalianna, is already in a player corp, Rogue Clones, as is this one, part of the Yulai Federation head quartered in Providence, so I think she would not be appropriate for our needs. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1217
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Posted - 2016.10.13 00:11:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:If I can get access to my old EVE account, I can possibly get you some free T1 frigates, destroyers, and cruisers as I had quite a few sitting in several locations. It's not much but free is free. I mostly produced by Hek though which could end up being far from where you plan to call home for the corp. Anyway, looks like I have some stuff to look into. *UPDATE: According to the Clone State FAQ, I can log into my previous account as a Alpha Clone. Therefore, I should have access to all my T1 frigates, etc I previously produced. I am now just unsure if I will still have the skills unlocked to produce any more ships. I guess I will see in November. T1 cruisers can be quite powerful (eg. the Caracal), and with a few skills, T1 frigates can be built up to be pretty fair (and cheap) interceptors. I did a lot of damage with Caracals before I trained into the Cerberus, and I still have a T1 frigate I use for fast transit around New Eden, rather than risk one of my interceptors.
Note that you can't probably build up an interceptor from a T1 frigate with just an Alpha Clone's skills, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't take advantage of the speed of a frigate... |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1217
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Posted - 2016.10.13 00:12:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Corporation Name Polls should be up by this EVEning.
Also, more info on Leadership Applications will come soon after the polls. lol I see what you did there.... :) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1217
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Posted - 2016.10.13 00:18:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Awesome, we could use some veteran EVE players to help out our newer members! I actually really like the idea of this. Since Rogue Clones moved down to Providence, I haven't played very much - most of their activity is fleets and if you're not in a fleet in nullsec, it gets kinda hairy, so I haven't really done anything much down there. Being able to be on at odd times and NOT have to find a fleet to be in (for protection and also to have something to do) will be good. My TZ is Eastern Australia, GMT+10, so it doesn't suit a lot of people.
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1218
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Posted - 2016.10.13 07:56:00 -
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It probably would be worth mentioning people can create their EvE accounts right now, as trial accounts. When the November release is deployed, these accounts and all other trial accounts will be accessible as Alpha Clones. All subscribed accounts will be Omega Clones. All characters on a subscribed account should be available as Omega Clones as I understand it. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1218
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Posted - 2016.10.13 07:58:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:We only have four votes for the corporation name so far, if you want to influence the corporation go here to vote! Oh, and I voted for Legion of the Phoenix or whatever you called it. EvE corp names should be classy. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1220
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Posted - 2016.10.14 00:14:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Marston VC wrote:Awhhhhh shucks, you seem to be pulling in some good interest now. I have a few eve accounts I'll throw into the pot of it helps keep the community together. I make a fair amount of isk off incursions on my main account too so if you let me join I can help out a lot with financing the newb ships and jackpot program. Don't get me wrong, I'm not eve rich by any means, but I'll have a hell of a lot more money than the new guys joining. I've also been playing eve for about 5 years now on and off so I have a fair amount of experience with things like fleet ops, exploration, mining, PVE ect..... I have a grand total of 110 mil eve isk... ... I had more in dust :( Keep at it. EvE has scope for billions. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1220
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Posted - 2016.10.14 00:17:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:The worth of my materials and blueprints far surpass my actual ISK. I was primarily an ice miner wanting to go full industrialist. Without established contacts with cheap moon materials though, I could not build T2 ships like I wanted. It would cost twice as much to produce than it would be to just buy the ships outright. That was one thing that frustrated me about EVE. I then moved on to missioning; mostly transport missions through hostile areas. It was quite the rush for a while as I had some sweet transport fits. Anyway, I am hoping to put my previous build up to good use in November. The cost of production comes down with skills and access to materials. In Providence where my main Nalianna resides, Rogue Clones is still an industrial corp doing all its own mining and production at the corp-owned stations and POSes there. Once you have a materials stream that's basicly free and neverending, you can make billions.
Edit: But by the time you're making billions, you're probably in a fairly strong industrial player corp anyway. |
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1220
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Posted - 2016.10.14 00:34:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:DJIPS wrote:I want to know your purpose.
What are you going to do after establish the corporation ? Not meaning to speak for OP but it appears the mere purpose is to simply have a common EVE corp for previous DUST players to experience EVE together. As corp recruits will be from DUST, I would guess PVP and attack missions would be primary focus but I am just guessing. In truth though, if there are a lot of players that get involved, we could branch into multiple areas of play although the Alpha Clone tree appears to be quite limited. "Limited" is in the eye of the beholder. Dust players tend to think in terms of mixing and matching racial gear to the task. So, in truth do some EvE players. But initially, all EvE players start off as one race or another and have to train to expand out. While they're still exploring their initial race, though, they have a lot of experience to obtain just on that race's ships and weapons.
It's not just about the weapons, for instance, it's also about tactics. A Gallente ship is armour tanked, and uses blasters and drones. There's a reason for this. The drones are used for attacking en masse while the ship gets in close (armour is good for that) and hits hard with the blasters (strongest weapons in the game for their size), which are similar to the Assault Rifle in technology.
These are then the tactics of Gallente, heavily armour tanked and fast to get in close quickly and armed with blasters to do the most damage up close. Blasters have short range but tremendous damage, so getting in close is necessary.
Contrast that with Caldari, who are all about kiting and light tank (shields) with rapid repair. They stay out of range of opponents weapons and lob long range missiles and rail gun charges. Rail guns have range over blasters, but at reduced effectiveness, similar to the Rail Rifle.
Caldari win EvE battles by sheer persistence and attrition of the enemy, where Gallente win by hitting hard and fast. So it comes down to a battle of tactics and strategies, not just a matter of who has the most powerful weapon and best armour.
Within the limitations of each race's Alpha Clone, I think there's quite a deal of scope. You only get to fly that race's ships and use that race's weapons, but they suit each other, used in concert with that race's tactics and strategies, so you can still be very effective until you decide to pay for upgrade to an Omega Clone. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1233
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Posted - 2016.10.14 10:14:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:IMPORTANT FOR NEW MEMBERS: https://m.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/50ikm5/spreadsheet_alphaclone_skills/That is the skills your alpha clone will have access to. As far as weapons and ship fittings go it appears to be racially based. So it's important you realize what race you want to play as because it'll largely determine the play style you'll have. Sadly, alpha clones can't to Planetary Interaction which would have been a good source to passive income. BUT, you can mine in mining frigates (a terribly slow source of income). But since alpha clones are free, how you spend your time making isk doesn't matter so much. That being said, it appears you can do exploration! Which can be very lucrative! You can also go as high as cruiser class ships which is also very interesting as you'll have a fair amount of flexibility in the game. Let's see, that means you can probably do level 2-3 missions. Level 3 missions would be tough though. But it can be done. And you'll make decent money doing it too. Wow these alpha clones seem pretty decent. Not very exploitable, but you'll be able to dab your legs into most of the major parts of the game. I think if you guys get trained well enough, you may even have fun! So that's exciting! Very loosely, in answer to the issue of what skills and ships each race uses, they are roughly: - Amarr - laser based weapons, drones and heavy armour - Minmatar - artillery/projectile based weapons and armour/shield mix with speed tanking - Gallente - plasma based (hybrid) close-range weapons with heavy use of drones and fast repping armour - Caldari - plasma based (hybrid) long-range weapons and missiles with shield tanking and kiting tactics
If any of those grab you, choose it and train it up - you can always have more than one character (up to three) and try out each of three races. Tactics are everything in EvE, so each race can be superior in a fight with the right pilot. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1242
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Posted - 2016.10.17 05:22:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Marston VC wrote:IMPORTANT FOR NEW MEMBERS: https://m.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/50ikm5/spreadsheet_alphaclone_skills/That is the skills your alpha clone will have access to. As far as weapons and ship fittings go it appears to be racially based. So it's important you realize what race you want to play as because it'll largely determine the play style you'll have. Sadly, alpha clones can't to Planetary Interaction which would have been a good source to passive income. BUT, you can mine in mining frigates (a terribly slow source of income). But since alpha clones are free, how you spend your time making isk doesn't matter so much. That being said, it appears you can do exploration! Which can be very lucrative! You can also go as high as cruiser class ships which is also very interesting as you'll have a fair amount of flexibility in the game. Let's see, that means you can probably do level 2-3 missions. Level 3 missions would be tough though. But it can be done. And you'll make decent money doing it too. Wow these alpha clones seem pretty decent. Not very exploitable, but you'll be able to dab your legs into most of the major parts of the game. I think if you guys get trained well enough, you may even have fun! So that's exciting! Very loosely, in answer to the issue of what skills and ships each race uses, they are roughly: - Amarr - laser based weapons, drones and heavy armour - Minmatar - artillery/projectile based weapons and armour/shield mix with speed tanking - Gallente - plasma based (hybrid) close-range weapons with heavy use of drones and fast repping armour - Caldari - plasma based (hybrid) long-range weapons and missiles with shield tanking and kiting tactics If any of those grab you, choose it and train it up - you can always have more than one character (up to three) and try out each of three races. Tactics are everything in EvE, so each race can be superior in a fight with the right pilot. Good catch, I forgot to mention the details on each race. I'd also add that each race has different weapon sub-types that match different play styles. So for example, among all the amar lasers you'll have different turrets, crystals, and ships that will be used to customize the way you do damage. So you can have long range, short range, medium range play styles. However some races are simply better at different play styles. Like, you can mount lasers on a caldari ship, but it probably won't be very good/efficient. But if you like drones doing your fighting for you, Gallente is an excellent choice Yes, you CAN mount lasers on a Caldari ship. However, you get no bonuses for doing that, because Caldari technologies are all about hybrid (railguns) or missiles. You should note that almost every ship has significant bonuses for their specific technologies and fit them accordingly. You need to train for those bonuses.
It's best to do the tutorial based training for your race immediately you get into the game - it will teach you tactics, and give you training in specific skills and ships, which are actually gifted to you as part of the training. The training is important.
Once you have trained up your basic skills and ships, you can start looking at doing PvP style battles, but to try to do so immediately is probably going to cost you a lot of ships....
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1244
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Posted - 2016.10.17 13:09:00 -
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Metallibanga 514 wrote:I have been looking for a new Eve corp to join ever since Dust was shut down. But I am struggling to find ones interested in Nova. I was previously with The Southern Legion (AU/NZ based corp) and I spent a great deal of time trying to help new Dust members to learn the basics of Eve Online.
I very much enjoy helping new players and I think your corp is what I have been searching for, though im more interested in membership over being a director. My main concern is what the main time zone will be. I am Australian and I normally play a few hours before DT and sometimes an hour or so afterwards.
I am by far no expert but I know enough to help the new guys get a good start in New Eden. I started in Wormholes then when Dust came out I was in the fight for Molden Heath. I have been playing Eve since 2010 and played Dust from closed beta. I suck at Eve Pvp but always willing to try.
I guess I should have sent this via the email but was kinda hoping CCP still reads these forums and can see we are all still eagerly awaiting some sort of news on Nova
Metallibanga - 93mil SP - 90% Pvp skills MURDERFAC3 - 79mil SP - 90% Pvp skills Samsquamsh - 29mill SP - Industrial/Trader pilot 3 low SP trading toons - T0kiWart00th, Sgt Simmo and Maltese Magician Hey, I'm an Aussie too!
I'm Alena Asakura in Dust but Jenquilla Viliana or Nalianna in EvE. I'll be playing as Jenquilla in this corp.
Good to see you. :)
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1252
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Posted - 2016.10.22 21:15:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:General Vahzz wrote:Friendly tip: Low Sec is the best for just starting out. Take a cruise and see what you find. This is why I placed our home system as a high sec system that is one jump away from low sec, so new players could experience low sec without having to travel 20 minutes. Or set the base in lowsec/nullsec No, you do NOT want to do that. Too many of our members will be noobs, and hisec is the place for them. One jump from lo/null should be fine. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1252
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Posted - 2016.10.22 21:19:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:Quote: New players need a place of safety where they can be sure that they are relatively not in danger, while still having the option of going to more dangerous places to experience what it is like. It's the best of both worlds.
I know, but highsec is boring, so offputting Don't be so selfish! One jump away from lo/null you only have yourself to blame for being bored. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1264
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Posted - 2016.11.06 02:08:00 -
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DIinkelFritz wrote: Faction warfare is a good start for two reasons. You get used to PvP combat and the perks that Militia LP provide. In many cases, faction ammo and gear is better than Tier 2 modules and don't require Tier 2 skills to use. I
While all of that's true, there are drawbacks to FW. Like once you have engaged in FW you end up with terrible stats with the opponent race/faction, and that can be disastrous if you're trying to cross their territory anytime in the future, and that's even after you've left FW.
As for T2 (Tech 2, not tier 2) gear and skills, most T2 gear is a LOT cheaper than the faction gear, and with the extra skills you can use the T2 gear as well as any T2 ammo that may be available for T2 weaponry. T2 ammo is definitely better than T1 ammo and can ONLY be used in T2 weapons. Faction weapons can only use T1 (Tech 1) ammo, although there is faction ammo (which is still T1) which can be used in any T1 weapons for greater power. T2 is still better if you can train for it, because you ultimately have better skills and the gear is nowhere near as expensive. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1267
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Posted - 2016.11.20 18:36:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Metallibanga 514 wrote:I have removed all roles from my 2 mains and finished making a replacement alt Ceo for my personal corp. But I have a couple of questions:
I noticed you joined The Sixth Empire, how much control does the space pope have over your corp? I will be honest, I hate Amarr. Are you guys in many wars since you joined them? Are you still based out of high sec? Did you do anything in-game this weekend?
I have been very busy lately helping a mate build a house, so not much time to play eve at the moment but looking forward to getting back to blowing ships up asap. The Sixth Empire is designed to be run by the members of the alliance, so while the space pope is technically at the top, we're free to do what we want. However, we do work closely with the alliance for mining ops and general fleets. H.O.N.K. has nothing to do with the Amarr or fw, and i'm pretty sure that can be said for most of the alliance too. As for wars, yes we're in one, and we're still temporarily based out of high sec, but providing you don't use autopilot and you stay away from the systems they're based around, you'll be fine. I'm not sure what's happening this weekend. There's an npsi fleet with the alliance iirc. "NPSI", what's that? Is that a variant/typo of NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It)?
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1284
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Posted - 2016.11.22 17:38:00 -
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Metallibanga 514 wrote:I have been looking for a new Eve corp to join ever since Dust was shut down. But I am struggling to find ones interested in Nova. I was previously with The Southern Legion (AU/NZ based corp) and I spent a great deal of time trying to help new Dust members to learn the basics of Eve Online.
I very much enjoy helping new players and I think your corp is what I have been searching for, though im more interested in membership over being a director. My main concern is what the main time zone will be. I am Australian and I normally play a few hours before DT and sometimes an hour or so afterwards.
I am by far no expert but I know enough to help the new guys get a good start in New Eden. I started in Wormholes then when Dust came out I was in the fight for Molden Heath. I have been playing Eve since 2010 and played Dust from closed beta. I suck at Eve Pvp but always willing to try.
I guess I should have sent this via the email but was kinda hoping CCP still reads these forums and can see we are all still eagerly awaiting some sort of news on Nova
Metallibanga - 93mil SP - 90% Pvp skills MURDERFAC3 - 79mil SP - 90% Pvp skills Samsquamsh - 29mill SP - Industrial/Trader pilot 3 low SP trading toons - T0kiWart00th, Sgt Simmo and Maltese Magician I just reread this. My feeling is that you wouldn't find any EvE corps interested in Nova. Most won't even recognise the name. They may recognise the name Dust, as some of the EvE players actually had ideas of playing it at some point, but now it's gone it's a moot point. The only EvE players who will really be interested in Nova will be Dusters who are playing EvE together. By the time Nova comes out, they may already be converted to EvE anyway. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1284
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Posted - 2016.11.22 17:50:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:So now I'm curious, has anyone calculated yet how long it would take to get the skill points to learn every skill an alpha clone can learn?
Also I may join up OP, If I can ever remember to start my trial account lol. It would take just short of a year. The true time varies depending on what neuro implants you have, but 5 million SP takes about 5-6 months in EVE for an OMEGA clone, and an alpha clone learns at half the speed so it would probably take about a year to learn them all for an alpha clone. (I think). Unless your allowed to buy skill injectors and use them. You can buy them in game for 500 million isk. But if your buying skill injectors, why aren't you just buying plex instead? Interesting that CCP are now saying the Alpha Clone training speed is normal and the Omega Clone learns at double the rate. It's all in the perspective I guess... |
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1284
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Posted - 2016.11.22 17:54:00 -
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Metallibanga 514 wrote:Thanks for the info mate. The main reason I ask about the wars and if your still in HS is because 99% of my assets are stored in Jita. Which i'm guessing is one of the systems your war targets are hanging around. I will hopefully joining Honkcom today and sending my in-game application with both my mains (Metallibanga and MURDERFAC3). I will obviously need to move a few ships out of New Edens arm-pit first though. o7 Quote:"NPSI", what's that? Is that a variant/typo of NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It)? I'm pretty sure it means Not Purple Shoot It "Purple"? What's that? You're either blue or red. Still don't understand. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1292
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Posted - 2016.12.02 00:35:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Metallibanga 514 wrote:Thanks for the info mate. The main reason I ask about the wars and if your still in HS is because 99% of my assets are stored in Jita. Which i'm guessing is one of the systems your war targets are hanging around. I will hopefully joining Honkcom today and sending my in-game application with both my mains (Metallibanga and MURDERFAC3). I will obviously need to move a few ships out of New Edens arm-pit first though. o7 Quote:"NPSI", what's that? Is that a variant/typo of NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It)? I'm pretty sure it means Not Purple Shoot It "Purple"? What's that? You're either blue or red. Still don't understand. If your in a fleet you are purple... Ah, I understand now. Isn't that a bit extreme? So if you come across some blues (friendly to you or your corporation) you're meant to shoot them??!!!! Wow, that's not the EvE I know. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1292
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Posted - 2016.12.02 00:39:00 -
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Metallibanga 514 wrote:Quote:I just reread this. My feeling is that you wouldn't find any EvE corps interested in Nova. Most won't even recognise the name. They may recognise the name Dust, as some of the EvE players actually had ideas of playing it at some point, but now it's gone it's a moot point. The only EvE players who will really be interested in Nova will be Dusters who are playing EvE together. By the time Nova comes out, they may already be converted to EvE anyway. I see where your comming from but what I meant to say was: ' I'm looking for a corp that does not have Eve elitists that will whine about how the possibility of a shooter linked to new Eden might affect their playstyle. ' Ha! Good luck!
My feeling is that EvE players who are dedicated enough to form player corps don't like non-EvE stuff like Dust or Nova. Your best bet is to join the Dust-player corps that are already in EvE, like H.O.N.K.
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
1298
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Posted - 2016.12.02 00:43:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Metallibanga 514 wrote:Quote:I just reread this. My feeling is that you wouldn't find any EvE corps interested in Nova. Most won't even recognise the name. They may recognise the name Dust, as some of the EvE players actually had ideas of playing it at some point, but now it's gone it's a moot point. The only EvE players who will really be interested in Nova will be Dusters who are playing EvE together. By the time Nova comes out, they may already be converted to EvE anyway. I see where your comming from but what I meant to say was: ' I'm looking for a corp that does not have Eve elitists that will whine about how the possibility of a shooter linked to new Eden might affect their playstyle. ' That's not EVE elitists, that's EVE majority. Agreed. Pretty much what I was saying. EvE players pretty much ARE EvE elitists. I think H.O.N.K. and other Dust/Nova centred player corps are the way to go. |
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